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ROC10 31st Oct 2020 16:23


Originally Posted by garry8g (Post 10915761)
Nothing wrong with these aircraft, they are well maintained and looked after!

I think the question is whether they will ever be needed in the foreseeable future. These aircraft are surely prime candidates for withdrawal should things fail to improve, or get worse as looks likely. The only blessing for now is that the Canaries are back, but that may be short-lived, and regardless, demand this winter (and possibly next summer) will be far lower than usual.

DjerbaDevil 31st Oct 2020 18:41


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10915914)
I think the question is whether they will ever be needed in the foreseeable future. These aircraft are surely prime candidates for withdrawal should things fail to improve, or get worse as looks likely. The only blessing for now is that the Canaries are back, but that may be short-lived, and regardless, demand this winter (and possibly next summer) will be far lower than usual.

Agreed that "should things fail to improve", that the B733s and the B757s would be prime candidates for withdrawal BUT if the JET2 management considered that the summer of 2021 was going to be a disaster. However, before retiring wholly owned aircraft that are in good condition, surely it would have been better to delay or even stop the recent leasing of two A321s and /or return some of the 15 B738s they lease from external lessors.

The snippets of news are that summer 2021 is shaping up very well and that all the fleet will be needed to cover the season......things could of course be upset if the COVID-19 vaccine is delayed and even the BREXIT negotiations could cause a major issue but as things stand at the moment, it is said, that bookings for summer 2021 are good.

ROC10 31st Oct 2020 19:14


Originally Posted by DjerbaDevil (Post 10916014)
Agreed that "should things fail to improve", that the B733s and the B757s would be prime candidates for withdrawal BUT if the JET2 management considered that the summer of 2021 was going to be a disaster. However, before retiring wholly owned aircraft that are in good condition, surely it would have been better to delay or even stop the recent leasing of two A321s and /or return some of the 15 B738s they lease from external lessors.

The snippets of news are that summer 2021 is shaping up very well and that all the fleet will be needed to cover the season......things could of course be upset if the COVID-19 vaccine is delayed and even the BREXIT negotiations could cause a major issue but as things stand at the moment, it is said, that bookings for summer 2021 are good.

Apparently they werenít able to get out of the A321 leases but Iím sure they really wished they could. Regarding the newer 738s, assuming Jet2 survive the next year or two, these will be the core fleet going forward and are more sustainable in the longer term.

Mr @ Spotty M 31st Oct 2020 23:02

Looks like all holidays are going to be cancelled from Thursday.

GAZMO 31st Oct 2020 23:55

Hopefully flights from Northern Ireland will continue as no restrictions in place at moment

inOban 1st Nov 2020 00:29

And Scotland?

ROC10 1st Nov 2020 00:33


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10916226)
And Scotland?

The announcements tonight donít apply to Scotland but I think from Monday, under the new tiered system, non-essential international travel may be banned from Tier 3+ areas. I may be wrong though, Iíd need to check. TUI have flown a 737 up to ABZ in preparation for a Sunday flight to TFS which would suggest they were planning to operate under the new tiered system, although I believe Aberdeen is Tier 2.

redED 1st Nov 2020 09:47


Originally Posted by Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP (Post 10915882)
J2 are crewing for what they think they need for the winter. I think UK aviation will be shut down again within a matter of days anyway. Hope Rishi has got very deep pockets.

This is incorrect, Jet2 are fully crewed (flight deck wise) for their summer 2021 schedule.

Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP 1st Nov 2020 14:16


Originally Posted by redED (Post 10916468)
This is incorrect, Jet2 are fully crewed (flight deck wise) for their summer 2021 schedule.

That is correct. But lots of people aren't being brought back on line for the winter as they aren't required.

Golf--Lima--Papa 1st Nov 2020 15:41


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10916230)
The announcements tonight donít apply to Scotland but I think from Monday, under the new tiered system, non-essential international travel may be banned from Tier 3+ areas. I may be wrong though, Iíd need to check. TUI have flown a 737 up to ABZ in preparation for a Sunday flight to TFS which would suggest they were planning to operate under the new tiered system, although I believe Aberdeen is Tier 2.


Figures in Scotland have been relatively positive this last week. The exponential rise in cases has stopped. Cases have levelled off at around 1000-1200 a day for the past week or so. Hospital admissions are only averaging around 40-50 admissions a day. On top of all that, ICU numbers have been steady at around 80 patients for the last week.

Scotland seem to be managing the second wave well, the Scottish Government have said theyíre cautiously optimistic. Therefore, further more restrictive measures donít appear to be on the horizon.

mike current 1st Nov 2020 16:05


Originally Posted by Golf--Lima--Papa (Post 10916665)
Figures in Scotland have been relatively positive this last week. The exponential rise in cases has stopped. Cases have levelled off at around 1000-1200 a day for the past week or so. Hospital admissions are only averaging around 40-50 admissions a day. On top of all that, ICU numbers have been steady at around 80 patients for the last week.

Scotland seem to be managing the second wave well, the Scottish Government have said theyíre cautiously optimistic. Therefore, further more restrictive measures donít appear to be on the horizon.

Number of cases in Scotland are pretty high considering the central belt has effectively been in soft lockdown for the past 3 weeks.


Golf--Lima--Papa 1st Nov 2020 17:14


Originally Posted by mike current (Post 10916676)
Number of cases in Scotland are pretty high considering the central belt has effectively been in soft lockdown for the past 3 weeks.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7c94d12fa6.png
Number of positive cases clearly going in the right direction.

Graph is from the Scottish Government website.

To get back on track, this data is clear evidence that Jet2 have a great opportunity to continue flights from Scotland despite the English lockdown.

irishlad06 2nd Nov 2020 09:39

Today sees the start of the B737-300ís positioning out to RMU for winter storage. FM currently on route to there now. 1st B757-200 going tomorrow - GLSAN from MAN.

Flying Hi 2nd Nov 2020 10:08

Returning Flight Crew?
 

Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10917121)
Today sees the start of the B737-300ís positioning out to RMU for winter storage. FM currently on route to there now. 1st B757-200 going tomorrow - GLSAN from MAN.

Totally, truly anorak question, sorry - how does the flight crew get back to UK? Commercial as Pax with another airline or is there another (unseen on FR) Jet2 aircraft running with it?
Fascinated to understand how the logistics work in situations like this. Especially as Spain is a No Go area re Covid.

ROC10 2nd Nov 2020 11:59


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10917140)
Totally, truly anorak question, sorry - how does the flight crew get back to UK? Commercial as Pax with another airline or is there another (unseen on FR) Jet2 aircraft running with it?
Fascinated to understand how the logistics work in situations like this. Especially as Spain is a No Go area re Covid.

I would imagine theyíll return on another airline. It would seem awfully wasteful to send another aircraft out there just to come straight back, besides I think it would appear on FR24 if that was the case. The only case where that may make sense is if they wait a few days until there are several crew members out there and then it may be more justifiable to send one of their aircraft out to collect them.

AP1995 2nd Nov 2020 14:54

most likely stick them onto FR ALC flights, cheap enough

Flying Hi 2nd Nov 2020 14:56

RMU looks like Ryanair territory. Maybe come back tonights MAN flight.
If crew remained airside they'd be exempt from 14 day quarantine.
Wouldn't they?

Flying Hi 2nd Nov 2020 14:57

We crossed. Lol
same idea.

Bam Thwok 2nd Nov 2020 18:59


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10917308)
RMU looks like Ryanair territory. Maybe come back tonights MAN flight.
If crew remained airside they'd be exempt from 14 day quarantine.
Wouldn't they?

Iím pretty sure that as the crew will be returning ďon duty/duty travelĒ that they will be exempt from the 14 day quarantine.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 2nd Nov 2020 21:00

They will come back on A N Other commercial flight, and as they are operating crew they are exempt from the quarantine required for “normal” passengers.


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