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excrab 15th Oct 2020 20:17


Originally Posted by Big Tudor (Post 10905229)
Manage ok off JSI at the same length.

Biggest issue isnít take off, but potentially RLM with a wet runway.

rog747 16th Oct 2020 07:31


Originally Posted by Big Tudor (Post 10905229)
Manage ok off JSI at the same length.


Enter Air 737-800 flights leaving out of Skiathos JSI normally operate with split pax loads (Sunvil Holidays)
They fly LGW-JSI then on to Lemnos, Chios or Volos, then direct back to LGW thus a/c is light out of JSI and they fuel up at the next island.
Other 738 operators also do split loads at JSI -
Neos, Blue Panorama, TUI Fly, Smartwings, SAS, Transavia, all flying in to JSI then on to Mykonos, Karpathos, Chios, Lemnos or Santorini

If they do ever operate non-stop back to UK then usually flight will be not full, as both 73NG and A320/321 are payload limited out of JSI.
They will normally though Tech stop on the way home at places like SKG CFU PVK KVA VOL or occasionally ATH.
757 has no such issues operating in or out of JSI
Smartwings are using a 737-700 on Charter Flights to tiny Paros Island (1400m) from Prague, but fuel up at JTR for the return.
Payload limited to 120 pax (148 pax is full capacity)


737-800 and 737- MAX had been flying in and out of Jersey for a local Tour Operator to Spain and TFS in the recent past.


UK - JER flights will likely not have loads of bags, nor need a load of fuel.
Jet2 maybe using their 737-300 which does not have too many issues in or out of JER

GrahamK 16th Oct 2020 08:01


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10905529)
Enter Air 737-800 flights leaving out of Skiathos JSI normally operate with split pax loads (Sunvil Holidays)
They fly LGW-JSI then on to Lemnos, Chios or Volos, then direct back to LGW thus a/c is light out of JSI and they fuel up at the next island.
Other 738 operators also do split loads at JSI -
Neos, Blue Panorama, TUI Fly, Smartwings, SAS, Transavia, all flying in to JSI then on to Mykonos, Karpathos, Chios, Lemnos or Santorini

If they do ever operate non-stop back to UK then usually flight will be not full, as both 73NG and A320/321 are payload limited out of JSI.
They will normally though Tech stop on the way home at places like SKG CFU PVK KVA VOL or occasionally ATH.
757 has no such issues operating in or out of JSI
Smartwings are using a 737-700 on Charter Flights to tiny Paros Island (1400m) from Prague, but fuel up at JTR for the return.
Payload limited to 120 pax (148 pax is full capacity)


737-800 and 737- MAX had been flying in and out of Jersey for a local Tour Operator to Spain and TFS in the recent past.
https://youtu.be/s2CYwP3hF0Y?t=17


UK - JER flights will likely not have loads of bags, nor need a load of fuel.
Jet2 maybe using their 737-300 which does not have too many issues in or out of JER

The 733s are currently only based at LBA, and may have been retired by the time next year comes about

southside bobby 16th Oct 2020 08:11

As advised no B733`s at STN & 4 positioning flights to operate twice a week removes part of the economic reality certainly when there are `800s STN based .

LBIA 16th Oct 2020 09:00

Looks like Jet2 have axed the planned services from Manchester & London Stansted to Trivat in Montenegro & Zadar in Croatia for summer 2021

southside bobby 16th Oct 2020 09:06

Local press enthusiastically covering the Jersey service.

For what it`s worth quote 6000 seats over 35 flights which equates to an `800 then & slightly seat limited but perhaps the figures quoted are rounded for press release.

But it is a B738 then which makes perfect commercial sense.

EXS still quoting 42 destinations from STN next year.

CWL757 16th Oct 2020 09:16

Could some flights be operated on a W pattern with LBA on a 733?

ROC10 16th Oct 2020 12:59


Originally Posted by CWL757 (Post 10905585)
Could some flights be operated on a W pattern with LBA on a 733?

I donít think Jersey has (yet) been announced for LBA.

jorvik 16th Oct 2020 14:21


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10905697)
I donít think Jersey has (yet) been announced for LBA.


LBA was the only airport Jet2 flew from to Jersey prior to the new bases being added, and LBA will continue next year, although it is normally flown on a 300

Mr @ Spotty M 16th Oct 2020 14:39

I don't think the actual loads are going to be the main concern making money, the main concern is going to be the weather.
There will be plenty of weekends when they won't be able to get in or out because of the weather.

stewyb 16th Oct 2020 15:57


Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M (Post 10905737)
I don't think the actual loads are going to be the main concern making money, the main concern is going to be the weather.
There will be plenty of weekends when they won't be able to get in or out because of the weather.

what between May - Sept?

ROC10 16th Oct 2020 16:15


Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M (Post 10905737)
I don't think the actual loads are going to be the main concern making money, the main concern is going to be the weather.
There will be plenty of weekends when they won't be able to get in or out because of the weather.

Surely if there will be ďplentyĒ of days they wonít be able to get in/out, it would make no sense to operate it? Why would they launch a new route if there was a significant chance they wouldnít be able to get there? That would cause all sorts of problems for passengers and crew, as well as obviously the airline as there would be significant cost associated with diversion/cancellation.

ROC10 16th Oct 2020 16:17


Originally Posted by jorvik (Post 10905734)
LBA was the only airport Jet2 flew from to Jersey prior to the new bases being added, and LBA will continue next year, although it is normally flown on a 300

Apologies, I didnít realise they already had a LBA-JER flight. In that case, yes they may operate W-patterns. Flight timings would surely be a giveaway?

737James 16th Oct 2020 17:36

I used to love the Jersey W patterns at Bmibaby EMA-JER-CWL-JER-EMA that was a nice day out and we used to quite often see the same pax inbound as than what was on the outbound.

We had an aircraft go tech one week and spend time chatting to some of the pax, Who advised it was perfect for them they could fly to Jersey have their meeting and be back at home by 6pm and we used to have some regular customers that came on the Duty Free run each week

Mr @ Spotty M 16th Oct 2020 21:41

Yes "stewyb" l guarantee that there will be days between May and September that they will not be able to land.
I remember from way back when BMI used to operate from Luton to Jersey during the summer months, when they had long delays and the odd day they could not get in.
Some might remember BA operating a Tristar into Jersey to try and clear a backlog due to weather cancellations.
"ROC10" Airlines will always operate to airports that are prone to weather issues, even if some might say it makes no sense.
Jet2 already operate to an airport that some might say is a risk because of weather, Funchal is that airport.

Wycombe 17th Oct 2020 10:52


Some might remember BA operating a Tristar into Jersey to try and clear a backlog due to weather cancellations.
I remember this, as a young lad who happened to be on holiday in Guernsey at the time. I think it was in August, late 70's. It made the news on both islands.

milhouse999 18th Oct 2020 14:32

3x JET2 flights on Saturday 31 October from MAN to RHODES (and more than one a day on other days too) - maxing out the few destinations they can get to for a final hurrah this summer?

irishlad06 18th Oct 2020 23:37

Flights to HER added back into the schedule for a few weeks too. People still want to go away. The A321 made its first trip to PFO yesterday from MAN and went out full, all with negative COVID tests too. People just want to get away for a well deserved break wherever they can go.

rotorwills 19th Oct 2020 15:14


Originally Posted by irishlad06 (Post 10907089)
Flights to HER added back into the schedule for a few weeks too. People still want to go away. The A321 made its first trip to PFO today from MAN and went out full, all with negative COVID tests too. People just want to get away for a well deserved break wherever they can go.


Don't think you are correct, no Airbus flight to PFO today! P

Flitefone 19th Oct 2020 15:49

[QUOTE=Mr @ Spotty M;10905959]Yes "stewyb" l guarantee that there will be days between May and September that they will not be able to land.
I remember from way back when BMI used to operate from Luton to Jersey during the summer months, when they had long delays and the odd day they could not get in.
Some might remember BA operating a Tristar into Jersey to try and clear a backlog due to weather cancellations.

This might help, August 1979 I believe. 16000 passengers were stranded on Jersey, I took this on the day.


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