Seems like RYR, EZY and BA are operating plenty of flights to FAO (for example) despite there being no "corridor" in place.

Presumably that has implications for travel insurance and EHIC health cover?

The government had a little note on the list at release saying further countries may be added in the next few days and Portugal have been in talks with the Foreign Secretary so wouldn't be a huge shock if it ends up being allowed (and one assumes the airlines are aware of this possible outcome?) Maybe even if its just Faro that is exempt along with Funchal and Azores which made the list I believe.

No problem with travel insurance if going to Portugal as its on the FCO list, however quarantine is in place for returning to the UK.

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Where in Portugal is the villa?

New COVID proceedures not getting a lot of love on social media

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ollow-18559008

An airline taking it's customers health seriously should be warmly applauded. Just shows the mentality of some idiots! :mad:

The main complaints seem to be about the lack of hand sanitiser and the hypocrisy of selling food and drink on board while also insisting on masks?

What's the point of selling food on board if you have to wear a mask? If pax are allowed to eat food, they take off the mask. If everybody keeps taking their mask's off, it renders it pointless.

Exactly. Presumably Jet2 cabin crew are like the others and make money off on-board sales?

Of course they do get commission based on on-board sales like any comparable airline in Europe, however in this case I suspect the (lack of) ‘measure’ is more because of the ancillary revenue for the airline than for the payslip of the cabin crew. I’m sure they’d much rather not sell anything right now. Mind you, the first plan was to shelve any BOB service, but Jet2 has rescinded that recently.

How is that different form passengers eating their own food though? You still have to take off the mask. Bearing in mind the airport experience requires a mask too (with a recommended 4 hour check-in) added to a an early 6-hour leg (block to block) to Cyprus for example, should pax go without food or drink for 10 hours ( more like 18 if they were asleep the night before an early check-in. How far do we want to take this?

It's too easy to forget the big picture here. Wear a mask anytime you're not needing to get access to your mouth or nose. Otherwise it's acceptable to do the basic human necessities to live.

Well said Mr Good Cat!

We need a little perspective here. The ONS currently estimates that the prevalence of the disease in the week up to the 5th July is one in 3900 people in the community infected. This is down 25% from the week before. The risk of any one of the 189 pax on a B737 having the disease is low. The risk of catching it as you take your mask off for a few seconds to eat and drink is incredibly low. If you still don’t feel like taking the risk then simply don’t fly. You can never eliminate risk; there’s risk in driving to the airport. It’s all about minimising it.

The mask generally protects others from you too rather than vice versa. Most airlines allow food on board, if you watch for example inflight video on youtube he went with KLM who gave food etc.

Risks are minimal, in normal times you could catch the flu or various other ailments and you don't wear masks so always a risk factor in life I guess.

To add to your point many of those 1 in 3900 would likely not be travelling because they have symptoms or are isolating due to contact tracing so the real chances are even lower.

You have to be pretty selfish, nae reckless, to even consider flying with a new cough or fever at the moment, but many of the affected are asymptomatic so could be spreading the virus innocently.

I'm presently in Germany where the laws are very clear on mouth and nose coverings, and frankly, wearing glasses I find doing so for more than about 30minutes annoying, there's no way I could tolerate 3 or 4 hours, I doubt there are many that would. I feel sure many people must be flouting the rules once airborne, and wonder how cabin staff are actually policing that situation,.

Not Jet2, however operated LHR-RMF-LHR a few days back, many passengers decided that once onboard they would remove masks, and move seats(middle seat intentionally blocked) to be closer to friends/family. Crew were under strict instructions to make sure this didn’t happen, and most passengers chose to ignore them, a PA from the skipper fixed the problem temporarily but about an hour later most decided to do it again.
I would imagine it’ll be even harder for the likes of Jet2, Ryanair, Easy etc with passengers not always being the most compliant.

I too wear glasses and fully concur, which is why I won`t be flying anytime soon. Like a lot of ideas the wearing of masks is a good idea in theory but doesnt work in practice, other than for short periods. I think it would be unfair to ask the cabin crew to enforce it, which on some flights could involve tense and unpleasant situations with less reasonable passengers.

As for a solution, like most people, I wouldnt know where to start. Sign of the times I suppose.

Best solution for me is my car on Eurotunnel shuttle. Cocooned in my own bubble, so no requirement for mask - not very practical for getting to Palma though!

We are going to France next month via Brittany Ferries. Masks required if out of the car but not in your cabins or on deck so a good compromise.

With Jet2 restarting flights soon, do we know the 757s left where will they be used mostly to out of MAN? Assuming we don't have a paneuropean lockdown sooner than expected (knock on wood)..I suppose since no A330s this year, Jet 2 will fly the 757 on MAN-Canaries and PMI routes?