Only use for them now would probably be the scrap value of the metal

Far from being left to rot, the 328s are on a care and maintenance programme and hangared around half the time each. Several sales prospects still live, apparently, but a few have fallen through along the way since the aircraft came out of the operational fleet 18 months ago. Part-out remains an option but not preferred.

Loganairs flights from EMA to EDI and GLA have all been removed from sale as no longer available to book.

Rolls Royce input now a fraction of previously

Thanks for the update. Shame there is not more a market for them.

Loganair suspending flights over winter from Glasgow and Inverness to Shetlands. COVID still biting...

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...nter-schedule/

Loganair are due to open a Base at Teeside for S21.

Frequencies for the Loganair Teeside routes are:
• 10x weekly Aberdeen.
• 7x weekly Belfast.
• 7x weekly Dublin.
• 3x weekly Newquay.
​​​​​• 1x weekly Jersey (on a W-pattern)

Will equate to a based E145 at Teeside for S21.

Thanks to SeanM1997 for the info.

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I can only assume that LM must be getting incentivised to operate at MME, as they have, for example, chosen to ignore CWL, which is a proven volume market (with no competition, unlike MME) with regular volumes on some unserved routes in excess of 10K pax per month ? Seems odd. I don’t really understand the need to take risks in the current climate. Strange commercial logic.

Weren't Eastern being incentivised already? This seems a strange move. Loganair flexing its muscles to hurt Eastern.
Unless Eastern have had a falling out with Teesside?

If Loganair have acted this way solely for the sake of competition - they've track record with this and Flybe up in Scotland - at the current time when such large chunks of the former Flybe network still remain so unserved, it astounds me. Scotland's airline trying to get a little bit big for its' boots I think here.

Agree - seems an odd and commercially risky foray - unless of course the risk is being underwritten by somebody else.

The situation with Flybe starting Highlands and Islands routes was the other way round - Loganair was the incumbent and Flybe (who used Eastern to fly on their behalf) sought to compete on those routes (though not for long as it turned out). So I think the two situations aren't analogous and don't amount to a track record of Loganair acting 'this way'.

Little big for its boots?
Largest regional airline in the UK big enough for you?
You have a track record yourself for displaying contempt for Loganair in various threads, give it a rest fella.

Hinkles is on record as saying they don't want to expand massively south of the border, and that they will operate to other parts of the UK only where it's a safe bet due to clear market need (in normal times), the routes from EDI/GLA to SOU being a prime example (as they were trunk routes for Flybe), aswell as others into MAN, BHX, BHD (and to a lesser extent BRS, EXT and NQY). This does seem to go against that strategy a bit.

...because the biggest one went bust, amongst others.

:ugh:

Much of what flybe inherited out of BHD, SOU and MAN was built by Loganair in the first place! As for "track record", flybe, in one of their not infrequent strategic errors decided to wage all out was against a stronger incumbent using...leased Eastern equipment. It may just be payback time, it's healthy competition, consumer wins in the short term, medium term likely only one operator, at best, will remain.

There's a video of the mayor talking about it. Sounds pretty clear to me that this is taking on the routes instead of Eastern, rather than as well as - and that he is supporting it. He mentions a three year contract.

I'd have thought any airline would be mad to turn down something of this nature right now if it was offered to them.

I've just watched the video and didn't pick up anything that suggested it was instead of Eastern - at one point he mentions "competitive" flights and "tieing them down to a three year contract' but otherwise just more of the usual.

whatever he said, both won’t last on those routes for too long!

Both on 3 year contracts, so I suppose they will have to