What is supplementing LM's fleet? The ERJs?

The headline makes it sound much grander than the reality. It's just a 340 in from an Estonian mob for short-term C Check cover and Christmas extra capacity - so a month or so.

I believe that the last ch aviation article stated Q3 2019 for the first ATR 42 delivery, not sure it it's new or used though. Final 340 phased out after 2025.

HUY-JER announced today for summer Saturdays 2019


https://twitter.com/JERairport

According to a Shetland News interview with the Chief Operations Officer at Loganair, the airline could be on the verge of placing an order for 20 ATR 42s, with delivery over the period of 2019-2024, (unless they are sourcing them second hand). I think this is the first time we've seen anything set in stone for fleet replacement, and would see the entire Saab 340/2000 fleet replaced by 2025.

My guess for the fleet composition in 2025:
- X2. BN e-Islander
- X3 DHC 6 400
- X4 ATR42F
- X16 ATR42S
- X5 ERJ135
- X10 ERJ145

Loganair could possibly reduce 7 basic fleet types down to 4.

Overall fleet size would be around 40 by my guess depending on the success of international services.

It would appear that HOP are getting rid of all their ATR's soon!
8 by 2019 and 6 in 2020.

Regards 4ea

Mullac30: This is good news. When will it become official?

I would also encourage them to look at a few ATR-72's - they would be similar in terms of trip costs as the SF-2000, but can carry up to 28 more pax - hence lower fares would be possible.

Takes out the popcorn and start watching the show
 

I am really sorry, but the airline of Scotland breaking into "new" markets is hardly a positive thing, W paterns and just some summer work... for me that are flags of warning...

Also as for any carrier going from "old" "owned" to new build fleet, on their fixed costs this will be such an increase, hope their variable cost will be lower... but fixed cost need to be paid evry month.. again again and again...

Do wish them best as tehy are a great outfit... to compare them with Highland Airways you cant I know, but they went out of the Highlands too to look for the promised land...

The article doesn't say the ATR's will be new build.

Yes we dont even know what variant they will be, but there are benefits to new build 600s such as short field performance packs and the new AR landing system for low cloud and fog that Aurginy are getting.

The W patterns to Jersey and Guernsey are just to get higher utilisation on the NWI based jets as they make more sense to fly frequently than the Dorniers that they replace.

Well, if you are a regional airline today and are looking for new aircraft in the 30-40 seat range without being inclined to shop in the antiques section, it is the ATR42 or nothing. So hardly surprising and long rumored..

As for HOP! frames becoming available, they mainly operate ATR72s and only a handful or so ATR42.

Embraer stopped building Brasilias in 2001!

I'd be surprised if they are still using ERJ135/145s in 2025... they will be a bit long in the tooth by then! If the ERJ experiment works, i can see them upgrading to 175s by then, either that or ditching them and sticking with the ATRs.

Airways magazine report that the ATRs will be brand new 42-600s