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mullac30 13th Jun 2019 14:01

I wonder if one of the ATR42s will be delivered in BAs livery if IOM is meant to be one of the places they'd be based? Is the lease long term enough for that?

manx crab 13th Jun 2019 14:41


Originally Posted by virginblue (Post 10492917)
Well, Euromanx used the Q300 to LCY and VLM the Fokker 50, so its is back to the olden days of slower turboprops.

Aer Arann used ATR's on the route as well many years ago although the routing to LCY in those days didn't seem to involve flying halfway across the Channel before turning for London.

Buster the Bear 15th Jun 2019 17:02

https://www.air101.co.uk/2019/06/air.../fMxO+(Air101)

VickersVicount 17th Jun 2019 10:04

...nice. Presumably not new though?

mullac30 17th Jun 2019 11:18

Seems a bit of a waste of time replacing 30 year old aircraft with 25 year old aircraft...

garry8g 17th Jun 2019 12:57


Originally Posted by mullac30 (Post 10495704)
Seems a bit of a waste of time replacing 30 year old aircraft with 25 year old aircraft...

If they are replacing the Saab 2000's, most of them are younger that 25 years old!

BAladdy 17th Jun 2019 13:20


Originally Posted by Paul015 (Post 10495630)
I believe ex hop aircraft around 1995 build

Hop recently retired the last 4 ATR42-500’s from there fleet. It was mentioned in a earlier post that the delay in adding the ATR’s to the fleet was due to the delay in the confirmation of the Royal Mail contract. Does this mean that the ATR’s are replacing the SF3 freighters?. As the oldest of these is nearly 33 years old.

https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Hop!-stored-atr.htm

Hop currently operate only one 500 series ATR72, the rest are 600 series aircraft. The 1 500 series aircraft is 17 years old.

https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-atr-686.htm



BAladdy 17th Jun 2019 14:41

LM have been experiencing disruption to there ops at NWI for the last few days. A number if flights have either cancelled or experienced long delays. It looks like this is due to a problem with G-SAJT, which has been on the ground since Friday evening.

Does anyone have any idea what the problem is with this aircraft?.

LM currently have at least 2, possibly 3 spare jet aircraft sat on the ground in ABZ. I am surprised that one of these wasn’t flown to NWI on Sunday to add some stability to the operation after the disruption on Saturday.

A SF3 had to be positioned from GLA this morning due to lack of a spare or replacement aircraft at NWI. This mornings MAN was delayed by over 3 hours as a result. As a result of this delay, the lunch time NWI-EDI-SVG-EDI-NWI service was delayed 4 hours ex NWI. In a effort to minimise the delay to the rest of this service. LM decided to position a ER4 to EDI at lunchtime to take over the operation of the EDI-SVG-EDI part of this service.


Flightrider 17th Jun 2019 21:13

Have you thought about going for a job in Loganair Ops? This almost unhealthy obsession with where their aircraft are would seem to be a good qualification....

VickersVicount 17th Jun 2019 21:16


Originally Posted by Flightrider (Post 10496134)
unhealthy obsession.

Seems a little harsh. At least its likely to be factual rather than fanciful

Fly757X 17th Jun 2019 21:32


Originally Posted by Flightrider (Post 10496134)
Have you thought about going for a job in Loganair Ops? This almost unhealthy obsession with where their aircraft are would seem to be a good qualification....

I agree, it is very harsh. There is nothing wrong with passion and interest.

Flightrider 17th Jun 2019 22:57

Maybe a bit on the harsh side, but honestly, more than half of the recent stuff on this thread should surely be in Spectators' Balcony - why G-YYYY hasn't flown for the last three days, what name G-XXXX is going to have. It's not exactly news.

SWBKCB 18th Jun 2019 07:24


LM have been experiencing disruption to there ops at NWI for the last few days. A number if flights have either cancelled or experienced long delays. It looks like this is due to a problem with G-SAJT, which has been on the ground since Friday evening.

Does anyone have any idea what the problem is with this aircraft?.

LM currently have at least 2, possibly 3 spare jet aircraft sat on the ground in ABZ. I am surprised that one of these wasn’t flown to NWI on Sunday to add some stability to the operation after the disruption on Saturday.

A SF3 had to be positioned from GLA this morning due to lack of a spare or replacement aircraft at NWI. This mornings MAN was delayed by over 3 hours as a result. As a result of this delay, the lunch time NWI-EDI-SVG-EDI-NWI service was delayed 4 hours ex NWI. In a effort to minimise the delay to the rest of this service. LM decided to position a ER4 to EDI at lunchtime to take over the operation of the EDI-SVG-EDI part of this service.
Doesn't reflect to well on this comment from the launch...

Loganair launches two new jet routes from Aberdeen


Loganair already has strong operational bases in both Aberdeen and Norwich – a route which can be served with a strong level of resilience due to the availability of aircraft and engineering support at both ends – making the routes a natural fit in the Loganair network.

Rob Royston 18th Jun 2019 10:56


Originally Posted by BAladdy (Post 10495866)
LM have been experiencing disruption to there ops at NWI for the last few days. A number if flights have either cancelled or experienced long delays. It looks like this is due to a problem with G-SAJT, which has been on the ground since Friday evening.

Does anyone have any idea what the problem is with this aircraft?

Nobody has mentioned what the problem might be. SAJO & SAJB did some of the flights. G-RJXE had also been idle since Friday night but came back into play last night. I saw her earmarked for painting in mid June, so maybe that has been deferred if they need her for cover.

VickersVicount 19th Jun 2019 11:02

Some suggesting the undisclosed ATR order at PAS was for Loganair.
Was never going to be... and confirmed as STOL equipped for Air Tahiti...
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...ble-atr42-600s

mullac30 19th Jun 2019 22:59


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10497567)
Some suggesting the undisclosed ATR order at PAS was for Loganair.
Was never going to be... and confirmed as STOL equipped for Air Tahiti...
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...ble-atr42-600s

However, there is another 42-600 firm order for 20 by NAC due for delivery in LMs timeframe. It could be for LM as if they were going for brand new 42s, i'd doubt they'd be ordering direct rather than leasing them.

Fly757X 20th Jun 2019 00:22


Originally Posted by mullac30 (Post 10498141)
However, there is another 42-600 firm order for 20 by NAC due for delivery in LMs timeframe. It could be for LM as if they were going for brand new 42s, i'd doubt they'd be ordering direct rather than leasing them.

Thought that earlier myself actually. I also read somewhere that Loganair were to be the launch customer of a SFP version of the ATR42 if they did indeed decided to go for new frames.

VentureGo 4th Jul 2019 14:09

Copied on Carlisle thread:

I notice Aircraft operating this morning (ES-NSD) to Dublin & Belfast has been substituted at Carlisle for the LM 607 to Suthend by another Saab A340 aircraft G-LGNC. Wonder if ES-NSD has gone tech on first day of Loganair operations ex Carlisle?

source FR24

simoncorbett 4th Jul 2019 15:23

Loganair
 
I think you will find they wanted to use a Loganair aircraft in full colours to get the most from all the press coverage

QUOTE=VentureGo;10509502]Copied on Carlisle thread:

I notice Aircraft operating this morning (ES-NSD) to Dublin & Belfast has been substituted at Carlisle for the LM 607 to Suthend by another Saab A340 aircraft G-LGNC. Wonder if ES-NSD has gone tech on first day of Loganair operations ex Carlisle?

source FR24[/QUOTE]

Fly757X 4th Jul 2019 16:26


Originally Posted by VentureGo (Post 10509502)
Copied on Carlisle thread:

I notice Aircraft operating this morning (ES-NSD) to Dublin & Belfast has been substituted at Carlisle for the LM 607 to Suthend by another Saab A340 aircraft G-LGNC. Wonder if ES-NSD has gone tech on first day of Loganair operations ex Carlisle?

source FR24

ES-NSC also went to CAX today.


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