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Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10462046)
More new routes announced.
Aberdeen up to 3x daily flights to both Norwich and Newcastle starting from September 1st |
The press release says specifically that these moves are in response to Easterns poor performance on the routes...
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10462147)
The press release says specifically that these moves are in response to Easterns poor performance on the routes...
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Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10462046)
More new routes announced.
Aberdeen up to 3x daily flights to both Norwich and Newcastle starting from September 1st A 2nd ER3 will be based at NCL to operate to 14 of the 15 weekly flights planned. LM001 NCL 07:00 ABZ 07:50 ER3 x567 LM005 NCL 14:40 ABZ 15:30 ER3 x67 LM007 NCL 18:00 ABZ 18:50 ER3 x67 LM007 NCL 18:15 ABZ 19:05 ER4 7 LM002 ABZ 08:20 NCL 09:10 ER3 x567 LM006 ABZ 16:00 NCL 16:50 ER3 x67 LM008 ABZ 16:45 NCL 17:35 ER4 7 LM008 ABZ 19:20 NCL 20:10 ER3 x67 Norwich A ER4 will join the 2 ER3’s already based at NWI to op the new 15 x Weekly ABZ service. LM011 NWI 06:55 ABZ 08:10 ER4 x567 LM013 NWI 11:30 ABZ 12:45 ER4 x67 LM017 NWI 17:45 ABZ 19:00 ER4 x6 LM012 ABZ 08:40 NWI 09:55 ER4 x567 LM016 ABZ 16:00 NWI 17:15 ER4 x67 LM018 ABZ 19:35 NWI 20:50 ER4 x6 |
Might be obvious but what does 'x567, x67' etc mean |
Originally Posted by NorthEasterner
(Post 10462440)
Might be obvious but what does 'x567, x67' etc mean x567 - Does not operate on Friday, Saturday or Sunday x67 - Does not operate on a Saturday or Sunday 7 - Operates Sunday only |
Originally Posted by rhutch28
(Post 10462234)
Isn't Eastern's Norwich - Aberdeen service operated by a Loganair aircraft anyway
So it obvious the route will become full Loganair as announced Mark |
From the Loganair website - pretty clear what their strategy is!:
Loganair is responding to market dissatisfaction around Eastern Airways’ inability to deliver a reliable air service for customers in the North East.UK Civil Aviation Authority data clearly sets out its rival’s performance on the Aberdeen to Newcastle route, where almost a quarter of flights in 2018 were cancelled and only 65.5% departed on time (within 15 minutes of scheduled departure). Loganair already has strong operational bases in both Aberdeen and Norwich – a route which can be served with a strong level of resilience due to the availability of aircraft and engineering support at both ends – making the routes a natural fit in the Loganair network. Loganair’s operational performance in 2018, as published by the CAA, highlights the airline’s commitment and ability to deliver reliable and punctual services – ranked 2nd in the UK punctuality statistics with 82.3% of flights arriving within 15 minutes. On-time performance will be a key contributor to the success of these new services, and Loganair is confident customers will recognise its record in delivering punctual services and support the airline’s new venture. |
So Eastern's reliability issues are due to Loganair's service for Eastern? 🤣 Sabotage!
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If you read the website blurb, it seems to say the reliability issues are all around Newcastle and it’s silent about Norwich. The Norwich thing seems to be more about schedules from the “right” end of the route.
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“SealinkBf” You clearly have not read the text. Reliability issues and the facts from the CAA website are in reference to the NCL to ABZ route. Nothing to do with the ABZ NWI which Eastern have wet leased to Loganair. So this is not sabotage. All Loganair are attempting to do is offer a more reliable service between NCL and ABZ on an EMB jet as opposed to the Jetstream operated by Eastern. |
To me (I’m probably wrong) it all sounds a bit personal.
You never know when you need a favour. Loganair I’m sure will be privy to what’s going on at Eastern which isn’t coming out into the open so look like they are trying to put the boot in early. |
Originally Posted by LesPretend
(Post 10464886)
To me (I’m probably wrong) it all sounds a bit personal.
You never know when you need a favour. Loganair I’m sure will be privy to what’s going on at Eastern which isn’t coming out into the open so look like they are trying to put the boot in early. |
Loganair is to drop ABZ - OSL from June, leaving the route to SK. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...rom-june-2019/ |
Can anyone in the know, give any updates on the following:-
G-RJXG has been in Lisbon since 10th Jan19 - is it undergoing major maintenance? Anyone know when it is due back in service? G-RJXH is also in Lisbon, having flown their from Londonderry. Is it also undergoing major maintenance? Anyone know when it is due back in service? G-RJXB has not moved from Londonderry since the transfer from FlyBmi to Loganair on 16th Feb19. Is there a problem with this aircraft or money owing for it to be released? G-SAJH hasn't flown since it was re-registered on 8th Mar19. Is this aircraft undergoing some maintenance as well? I thought that they would want all the acquired aircraft painted into Loganair colours ASAP, and to be available for flight service. |
Originally Posted by garry8g
(Post 10474754)
G-SAJH hasn't flown since it was re-registered on 8th Mar19. Is this aircraft undergoing some maintenance as well?
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Jersey-Bournemouth priced at GBP205 one way does not compare favourably to the fares of Flybe just 30mins up the road from Southampton (Just checked this coming Saturday 25th May)
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Even though LM is not a low cost operator, some of their fares (on lots of routes) are hugely expensive. Last quote I tried for SYY was over £280 return. I could go to TFS and back for that.... twice. Oh well, lets hope their revenue management know what they're doing and don't scare away any potential bookers with silly fares to try and make these routes work |
The direct flights from Bournemouth Jersey and Guernsey on a Saturday have been consolidated from 2 separate flights into a single service. The aircraft now operates Jersey-Guernsey-Bournemouth-Guernsey-Jersey. Replacing the previously planned Jersey-Bournemouth-Guernsey-Bournemouth-Jersey W pattern I have a feeling that this change is the reason that the flights are so expensive on a Saturday |
Originally Posted by BAladdy
(Post 10475929)
The direct flights from Bournemouth Jersey and Guernsey on a Saturday have been consolidated from 2 separate flights into a single service. The aircraft now operates Jersey-Guernsey-Bournemouth-Guernsey-Jersey. Replacing the previously planned Jersey-Bournemouth-Guernsey-Bournemouth-Jersey W pattern I have a feeling that this change is the reason that the flights are so expensive on a Saturday Let's hope they have done the maths and it all works as I think LM are a great airline and it would be very sad to see yet another airline name go in the UK (I'M NOT saying that they will or are about to before anyone jumps on me).but this will depend on how much the public are prepared to pay for these relatively short hops, a public that have got used to £50 return fares to Spain and the like with FR and EZY. I did look at flying EMA-INV in the first week of June as a change from BE out of BHX but sadly again the fare didn't stack up, BE were much cheaper (and there's only so much extra I will pay for a free cup of tea and a biscuit!) so I will be sticking with BE on this particular trip at least. Shame as I wanted to fly LM again (haven't done for years as they haven't flown out of the Midlands since the 90's when they did BHX-GCI on the STP, those were lovely flights). |
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