Dundee - London - Dundee
 

Any news on whats happening with the Dundee - London - Dundee Loganair route when the money runs out on the 31st October 2019.

It still shows as a s20 on the ba timetable up to a year hence fwiw.
Not looking foward to the potential long journey down on the painfully slow atr though, they allow 95min for the saab, how much for the atr, plenty of time to issue the crisps and drinks i guess.

LCY has been served from IOM by DHC8-300s and Fokker 50s in the past, so something slower than the Saab 2000 is not really unusual on the route. In all fairness, the ATR42-600 can do 300 knots, so we are looking at somethin like a 15 per cent difference in speed.

Will it get a BA livery?

It has been a while since we last saw a BA liveried ATR42: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9230326

Probably correct as the alternative is the woeful service to lgw by easyjet which had a 20% otp for the night roatation few years ago and has.not really improved. It is noticable that Ba have never upgraded to their own, or citiflier, metal for this route

Correct, Summer 2016.

There was a daily ERJ170 rotation a while back however loads did not merit it continuing.

The 95 minutes time for the Saab is because of the changes in the LCY STARs a couple of years ago which takes the aircraft off to the east around Cambridge and thence over the ocean before turning south then west to towards LCY. The actual flight time is now around 1h15 against 1h before the changes (less if Thames Radar were kind and gave a shortcut). Contrast this to Flybe's typical flight time to LCW of 50-55 minutes in the Dash and Manx to LHR of 45-50 mins Jemima (always subject to holding of course). That's progress for you.

With Flybe ending there Manchester to Glasgow route, do we think Loganair will take that on as well https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...nsions-in-w19/

Why would that be then?

The problem is, according to a report in The Illeach, that the flight was biased 90/10 in favour of passengers originating in Edinburgh with only a low uptake from passengers on the island. So, that seems at first glance to mean that the flight is unpopular, but that depends on how you look at it as, presumably the majority of those passengers originating in Edinburgh will return there. Remember that Islay is only a small island with a population of approximately 3,500 but a place that attracts a relatively large number of tourists due to the existence of a some excellent distilleries. To the people of Islay the existence of an air service is a life-line. The existing service to Glasgow is very popular and is used by a large number of the inhabitants who need to travel to hospital appointments in Glasgow - the alternative is a road/ferry service of over 5 hours and using a ferry that is often overbooked due to the number of freight vehicles are also utilise it. Apparently Loganair decided to publicly announce the withdrawal of the service without even discussing the matter with the local council.

Loganair to continue with the Dundee - Stansted route:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...ntral-50211168

Bigger aircraft to be used, I suppose that will be one of the ATR 42-500's once they arrive.

what a shame, would have been better if they had moved it to SEN

The catachment areaaand relative wealth don't add for moving a London connection to Southend-on-Sea, they never did.