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brian_dromey 9th Apr 2020 13:41


Originally Posted by 116d (Post 10744754)
I too think he has a point with respect to splashing out on new planes. Hardly anyone is booking (or I'm assuming that's the case - I for one am not booking anything for anywhere until things improve) and the immediate, short-term focus should be on survival...

easyJet and all other major airlines will be reviewing their fleet requirements in light of the current situation. No one knows just how long this will go on for, or what form the recovery will take. We cannot be sure that even if the economy makes a full recovery that air travel will have the same levels of demand. My personal opinion is that people have changed the way they work and work-related travel will reduce, across all modes of transport. That is not to say that demand will evaporate, but that forced working from home and reduced commuting will have shown people another way to conduct their business.

Stelios' temper tantrums are a distraction for the management right now, where survival is everything. He is doing more harm than good. easyJet are doing everything they can to conserve cash and the order will have been on their minds. Its worth remembering that they have already paid deposits for their slots and progress payments on aircraft under construction. That's money they would have to walk away from. Aircraft are not a discretionary purchase like a Bentley or a Yacht, they are absolutely fundamental to the production of product, they are a capital expense, financed over the long term. Airline fleets are planned years in advance, not days and weeks. Their old aircraft have agreements to return to lessors and onward airlines - things are not as straightforward as he is making out. It would be foolish not to have a little more information about the recovery before they make major strategic decisions which will effect the trajectory of the airline for five years or more.

businessair75 9th Apr 2020 13:49

easyJet aren't the only airline to have major orders for aircraft. Nobody is suggesting that IAG should cancel its aircraft orders, instead they are speeding up their fleet renewal programmes by getting rid of older, less efficient aircraft.

There will be some failures as a result of all this, that is inevitable. With that though will come some winners. As a business a balance sheet among the strongest of any airline in the world, easyJet needs to be in a position to capitalise on opportunities going forward. The options that new aircraft will bring will be necessary. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be the option also to reduce the fleet if required. Indeed, that option has been in place within easyJet for some years now.

No one knows the true extent that the industry will be damaged and it would be foolish of easyJet to cancel the order at this moment in time. Stelios wants the airline to focus on profits but that requires increasing yield and if the rest of the market isn't focussing on that as much then market share becomes crucial.

pabely 9th Apr 2020 16:16

Looks like Stelios got a little bit of what he wanted, deferred orders rather than cancelled.

Tonyq 9th Apr 2020 16:42


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10744968)
Looks like Stelios got a little bit of what he wanted, deferred orders rather than cancelled.

I assume you intended to add this link, so we don't all have to wonder what you're talking about.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...d-to-save-cash

pabely 9th Apr 2020 17:03

Didn't realise it had been picked up by press yet. Add to that 24 leases are up for review in next 16 months which adds more flexibly to fleet requirements.

SARF 9th Apr 2020 22:57

easy jet are in with airbus,, they have no option to switch to Boeing, especially with the max fiasco.. much as they may like to smash prices with their supplier, it is their sole supplier which has government backing. this current situation won't last for ever ,, it may not even last very long .. its not all one way traffic here between easy and airbus .

pabely 10th Apr 2020 07:18

Easyjet offering hold & sports equipment for 99p on bookings from today until 17th April. Good way to stimulate bookings and what about existing bookings?

JonnyH 10th Apr 2020 08:11


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10745462)
Easyjet offering hold & sports equipment for 99p on bookings from today until 17th April. Good way to stimulate bookings and what about existing bookings?

You can get it on existing bookings too.

pabely 10th Apr 2020 09:55


Originally Posted by JonnyH (Post 10745505)
You can get it on existing bookings too.

If I remove my current bags and add again at 99p do I get I refund?

JonnyH 10th Apr 2020 11:13


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10745588)
If I remove my current bags and add again at 99p do I get I refund?

No you don’t.

Tonyq 10th Apr 2020 16:49


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10745588)
If I remove my current bags and add again at 99p do I get I refund?

I don't think you can ever remove bags, which you've already paid for, and get a refund.

stewyb 11th Apr 2020 15:26

EZY A321 just flown overhead from BRS heading for LGW, do we know why? cheers

ericlday 11th Apr 2020 15:31

Its a game of plane chess, one from SEN to LTN this morning now BRS to LGW, whats the next move I wonder !!!!

pabely 11th Apr 2020 16:40


Originally Posted by ericlday (Post 10746847)
Its a game of plane chess, one from SEN to LTN this morning now BRS to LGW, whats the next move I wonder !!!!

Engineering checks and a chance for some crews to get some hours in. One went from LTN to SEN as well.

Espada III 11th Apr 2020 17:27

Strange. Flight from TLV to MAN bookable on 3 May (which suits me fine) but thought that UK airlines were discouraged to fly at the moment? If this likely to go ahead or be cancelled just before?

MerchantVenturer 11th Apr 2020 17:31

There have been several easyJet aircraft positioning from BRS to LGW this week with one today also operating in the opposite direction. I note pabely's explanation.

davidjohnson6 11th Apr 2020 18:40

Espada III - Easyjet seem to have cancelled (almost) all flights until 30 April, with the reservation system showing a full schedule resumption (ie same frequencies as spring 2019) on 01 May. Perhaps not an accurate reflection of what will end up occurring

inOban 11th Apr 2020 19:18

Even if some countries are in a position to relax the lockdown somewhat, the last thing they will want is people arriving from other elsewhere.

LTNman 12th Apr 2020 04:44

The UK government is and was very relaxed about importing Coronavirus cases, which is why this country got infected in the first case. On the other hand other countries have been a lot tougher as inOban has stated in placing restrictions including 14 day quarantine periods for new arrivals.

Easyjet might well be selling seats from May 1st to keep the money coming in but they won’t be returning that money when all those flights are cancelled.

It will be the case that when the UK and European lockdown is ended Coronavirus will still be rampant but hopefully manageable. The question then becomes who will want to sit in a confined space for a couple of hours after they have got used to social isolation?

I am supposed to be flying Easyjet to Gibraltar on May 5th. I won’t be going as the hotel is shut down and I don’t feel safe in flying. I am hoping and expecting the flight to be cancelled so at least I can apply for a credit card chargeback.


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