Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10741057)
How long could Easyjet really last under a pan-Europe lockdown without a Govt bailout ?
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9448746.html |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
(Post 10741095)
August according to Stelios if they don't get rid of the Airbus order.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9448746.html |
How many are actually due before August? AB are already running late due to lack of engines, a couple are sitting at the factory engineless and were before COVID-19 grounded the fleet. EZY, just like any airline currently will say leave it at XFW for now and thus do not have to pay for it. Can you really see AB saying no?
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Originally Posted by Curious Pax
(Post 10741117)
Probably later then, as he certainly isn’t going to err on the side of caution when trying to prove his point!
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Am I right that the other Easy companies belong entirely to Stelios, and are any of them profitable in normal times. Or is he dependant of dividends from Easy to keep the others afloat?
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EasyHotels must be struggling now!
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Originally Posted by pabely
(Post 10741177)
EasyHotels must be struggling now!
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10741057)
How long could Easyjet really last under a pan-Europe lockdown without a Govt bailout ?
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How long could Easyjet really last under a pan-Europe lockdown without a Govt bailout ? |
Originally Posted by lfc84
(Post 10741187)
Hotels typically pay a 20 year franchise fee. The hotels are independently owned
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Originally Posted by lfc84
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JSCL
The CCFF is the government - it's a state fund run by the Bank of England. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/news...ncing-facility |
Originally Posted by ETOPS
(Post 10741903)
JSCL
The CCFF is the government - it's a state fund run by the Bank of England. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/news...ncing-facility This is 100% demonstrating every avenue other than a bailout of any description. |
Another day and Sir Stelios continues along the warpath against the rest of the board, now threatening legal action if they continue to pay Airbus whilst defaulting on other obligations...
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...ounded-2533129 |
Originally Posted by 116d
(Post 10743742)
Another day and Sir Stelios continues along the warpath against the rest of the board, now threatening legal action if they continue to pay Airbus whilst defaulting on other obligations...
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...ounded-2533129 |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10744585)
He’s a monster to work with. This is why entrepreneurs need to move on. He founded so many easy companies, all of which failed with the exception of easyJet which he sold off and got in a proper management team to run. It’s not his own personal plaything anymore. He continues to behave like a giant hairy baby, it’s sub optimal for sure.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 10744585)
He’s a monster to work with. This is why entrepreneurs need to move on. He founded so many easy companies, all of which failed with the exception of easyJet which he sold off and got in a proper management team to run. It’s not his own personal plaything anymore. He continues to behave like a giant hairy baby, it’s sub optimal for sure.
The current fleet they’ve got will definitely see them through for the foreseeable future and the sensible, and moral, thing to do would be to cancel the majority, if not all, of this order. The credit facility they’ve gained will need to be paid back and should be their priority. They can and should be working to reduce their order, defer it or whatever else is required. It seems fair to assume they should be focusing on staying in business.. It might well be that someone else comes along and says there is clear logic for maintaining their order with Airbus whilst struggling with their other financial obligations but I cannot see a strong case. |
Originally Posted by JonnyH
(Post 10744705)
Whilst you’re not wrong in what you’re saying, because he is a complete pain in the rear and like a dog with a bone, I do think he is correct with the major issue regarding aircraft orders.
The current fleet they’ve got will definitely see them through for the foreseeable future and the sensible, and moral, thing to do would be to cancel the majority, if not all, of this order. The credit facility they’ve gained will need to be paid back and should be their priority. They can and should be working to reduce their order, defer it or whatever else is required. It seems fair to assume they should be focusing on staying in business.. It might well be that someone else comes along and says there is clear logic for maintaining their order with Airbus whilst struggling with their other financial obligations but I cannot see a strong case. Like I said last week, the best Sir Stelios can probably hope for is deferral. Airbus (and Boeing) are no doubt bracing themselves for airlines wanting deferrals, cancellations, order revisions etc., so I wouldn't expect talks to be easy. |
Can easyJet simply walk away from the contract without penalties as Stelios insinuates? From what I gather, we are talking about orders, not options or purchase rights.
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