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fjencl 10th Nov 2017 13:58

Belfast to Inverness flight
 
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-36307745.html

fjencl 10th Nov 2017 14:07

FLYBE STATEMENT
BE331
Belfast City - Inverness
A Flybe spokesperson confirms:
“Flybe can confirm that one passenger was taken to hospital with a minor hand injury following an incident involving one of our aircraft this afternoon which landed with its nose gear raised at Belfast International Airport at 1330 local time.
There are no further reports of any other passenger or crew injuries.
There were 52 passengers plus one infant on board and four crew members.
We are sending a specialist team to Belfast to offer assistance and we will now do all we can to understand the cause of this incident.
All statements relating to this incident will be posted immediately on the Flybe website at www.flybe.com"

callum3242 10th Nov 2017 20:46

Flybe have gained themselves the Bristol to Innsbruck Inghams Ski contract for Summer 2018. This means they will be flying BRS-INN every Saturday, probably on a Q400 I guess? CityJet operated the route previously, but lost the contract.

jon01 11th Nov 2017 16:55

Already posted above, it's on a Birmingham based Embraer

Albert Hall 12th Nov 2017 15:23

Looking at the Flybe investor presentation and what's going on around, there are a few quite interesting and worrying signs here.

They said very little about Heathrow in the H1 results and you would think some performance update on the LHR services would be front and centre of the announcement if it was going remotely well. Hidden away in the investor presentation is a waterfall graph of changes from last year to this, and one of the entries is a £4.4m loss against "airport developments" which is noted to include Heathrow.

Start-up losses are to be expected, but the summer (included in these results) is usually stronger than the winter (yet to come). It's guiding towards a loss of somewhere between £8m and £10m for Heathrow this year - ouch.

Flybe had one of the highest credit card surcharges for a long time and has now dropped that to £1 (and I think it has to be abolished by law completely some time next year). The timing of that being dropped, during September, means that they had the full benefit of the surcharges in H1 which will reduce significantly into the H2 results. Another hit to come.

The H1 results were also pretty thin on how things are going in Scotland except to say that the partnership has started. Reading the local press suggests that they are not doing well - reports of the E170 with very low loads and Flybe having to compromise by giving free baggage to pax on routes competing with Flybe. Very messy indeed.

The full-year results will make for very interesting reading by the time all of this plays out.


Flybe announces it will match free luggage allowance as battle with Loganair continues | Shetland News

virginblue 12th Nov 2017 15:46


Originally Posted by Albert Hall (Post 9954854)
Flybe had one of the highest credit card surcharges for a long time and has now dropped that to £1 (and I think it has to be abolished by law completely some time next year). The timing of that being dropped, during September, means that they had the full benefit of the surcharges in H1 which will reduce significantly into the H2 results. Another hit to come.[/url]

That the CC charges have to go is the result of sinister EU laws. After Brexit, HM's government is free to allow airlines again to rip off passengers.

southside bobby 13th Nov 2017 10:11

BEE to exit the Luxembourg market...MAN off sale effective end of Winter18.

SealinkBF 14th Nov 2017 15:10

And the fares have all jumped by around £20.
Don't trust Flybe at all these days.
The Loganair fight is not driven by business acumen.

Plane.Silly 14th Nov 2017 15:15

Hate to say it, but it's common practice, not just in aviation. customers think they're getting a good deal, without spotting the gradual increases beforehand

LAX_LHR 14th Nov 2017 15:29


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 9955640)
BEE to exit the Luxembourg market...MAN off sale effective end of Winter18.

And a subsequent press release from the same people now says it will continue.

oapilot 14th Nov 2017 18:03


Originally Posted by SealinkBF (Post 9956910)
And the fares have all jumped by around £20.
Don't trust Flybe at all these days.
The Loganair fight is not driven by business acumen.

Actually, looks like they have dropped the charge on all inter Scotland routes. So if you travel within Scotland no charge, if you travel to/from Scotland, or anywhere else in the U.K. , you pay the charge.

As this was "done in response to customer feedback", let's hope a few other communities get together and complain. E.G. England, Wales, N Ireland, the Channel Islands to name a few.

CabinCrewe 14th Nov 2017 18:06

i think that should read
"done in response to Loganair competition who offered free hold baggage and are currently pumping us (and Eastern) in load factors"

Albert Hall 14th Nov 2017 18:09

It's hard to see how the move could be in response to customer feedback when they don't appear to have any (customers, that is). It will indeed be interesting to see how this plays out in IOM and the Channel Islands as to whether "customer feedback" will drive a change there too. Doesn't the whole business model start to fall apart then?

SWBKCB 14th Nov 2017 18:17

Maybe that is the feedback - people voting with their feet...

runway30 14th Nov 2017 21:50

There are 3 things I would follow as an airline CEO

1) Only pick fights that I can win
2) If a cost is avoidable, pass it on to the passenger as an ancillary charge/change passenger behaviour
3) Once you have decided upon the level of service offered by your airline, avoid confusing passengers by offering different levels of service in different parts of your network

CaptainDoony 14th Nov 2017 22:19


And the fares have all jumped by around £20.
Don't trust Flybe at all these days.
The Loganair fight is not driven by business acumen.
In fairness the ABZ-LSI base fare was and still is £49 o/w. Noted from virtually every single flight which doesn’t move off this base fare until 2 days before when all fares go to fully flex in a desperate attempt to sting some last minute punter!

Says it all really

SealinkBF 15th Nov 2017 00:44

The routes I fly regularly are Scottish internal and they have pushed the prices up before this announcement.

oapilot 15th Nov 2017 07:31

Like you said earlier, this fight isn't driven by business acumen. More like bruised ego.
The line from Flybe all along has had more holes than a Swiss cheese, from Vince Hodders original claim that slash the prices and you'll get great loads, to we're cutting unprofitable routes, to this latest hokum about baggage fees.
Typical corporate bs.

BOHEuropean 15th Nov 2017 19:29

Oman Air
 
Building on the success of Oman Airís double daily flights from London Heathrow and the new daily flight it launched from Manchester Airport in May 2017, Oman Air is now working with Flybe to offer through fares from regional airports via both hubs, plus one via Paris.

Guests can book the through fares from the following UK airports; Aberdeen, Belfast City, Edinburgh, Exeter, Glasgow, Isle of Man, Southampton, and Birmingham.

Source: aviationnews-online

LAX_LHR 15th Nov 2017 19:50

Do flybe actually carry any of their own pax from Manchester now?

Thomas Cook, Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Emirates, Etihad, Virgin Atlantic, Oman Air and Air France codeshares, just to name a few. Can't be much room for any P2P pax!


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