It’s a gamble and a half on account of where we are with Covid, but perhaps not as bonkers as it first looks. There are aircraft and crews sitting around all over the place which it must be assumed would now be available on much more favourable terms than was previously the case. There might even be a market for some subsidised flying from major hubs to slot-sit.
Is there precedent for an airline coming out of administration? |
Sky News just now running this story which it describes as one of the more improbable business stories of the year. Finished the report with the quote “God loves an optimist”. Couldn’t agree more.
|
Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10907273)
It’s a gamble and a half on account of where we are with Covid, but perhaps not as bonkers as it first looks. There are aircraft and crews sitting around all over the place which it must be assumed would now be available on much more favourable terms than was previously the case. There might even be a market for some subsidised flying from major hubs to slot-sit.
Is there precedent for an airline coming out of administration? |
Originally Posted by Albert Hall
(Post 10907268)
I notice that there's no mention of one very important element in any of the announcement - slots. As the business is being sold but not the legal entity, the Operating Licence and AOC will need to be obtained from scratch, so logically the same would apply on slots - unless anyone has any insight to the contrary?
|
Buying assets from an administrator signals intent but there is a long way to go before fare paying (and profitable) passengers are in the air. Perhaps best not to get excited yet
|
|
I would not get over excited just yet. I think this will be a very very long road unless in the background its some kind of convoluted way to rebrand/buy Stobart Air.
|
Can you imagine what the financial fitness meeting with the CAA will be like!
|
What are the actual assets left? A website and is that about it?
|
Overall voting control of a reconstituted company will be held by a Lucien Farrell described by another hedge fund manager as "unbelievably crafty" & who "takes no hostages".
Specialty & concentration being distressed companies but non-airline. Let the game & gaming commence. |
Originally Posted by willy wombat
(Post 10907297)
Can you imagine what the financial fitness meeting with the CAA will be like!
|
Return of Flybe
According to the BBC the Flybe brand and remaining assets have been purchased by one of its former shareholders Thyme Opco. The article says operations could restart next year.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54596915 |
Am I right in thinking they don't appear to have any of the key assets left.... aircraft? Admittedly there are probably a number of aircraft on the used market that may now come cheap. Any updates on where the previous aircraft are? Did they all find new homes?
There's the added complication of now having to go up against a stronger Loganair and to a point Eastern. I suspect Eastern will be the one to suffer in this though. Could there be any link to Virgin again? Didn't Virgin pull out because of Flybe's finances? If the finances are in better shape they may regain interest, especially with MAN growing as a base. |
Originally Posted by Albert Hall
(Post 10907268)
I notice that there's no mention of one very important element in any of the announcement - slots. As the business is being sold but not the legal entity, the Operating Licence and AOC will need to be obtained from scratch, so logically the same would apply on slots - unless anyone has any insight to the contrary?
|
I assume that LHR and LCY will not return as these airports were never their core business. |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10907323)
But if they hold slots for these airports they could be considered as an assett which could be sold - certainly once upon a time, not so sure now. As mentioned above, not sure what else is left, assett wise.
|
Farrell/Cyrus & Sir Richard/Virgin have history as the hedge fund also helped Sir Richard set up Virgin America back in 2005.
|
What is left to buy? No aircraft, no engineering hangar, no routes....
|
..no AOC, no operating licence...
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 08:00. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.