Originally Posted by Airbus123
(Post 10903836)
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Still in administration which may be extended, no planes and no staff other than the retained ones in key positions DFO, HOCT etc..... Assets being sold off too.
The dispute with IAG over the Heathrow slots rumbling on and the EU have stated they should belong to Flybe and apparently the Connect lot don't automatically have first dibs if they do stay with the company. The company is still going and spending a lot less cash than those flying empty planes around. Unlikely but a resurrection of some sort could happen. I'd feel sorry for Stobart, Logan, Easy and Eastern though as they struggle on during the crisis and then Flybe starts with cheap planes and crews and competes hard against them. Who Knows |
Heard various rumours recently from numerous sources, that Flybe is to make a comeback. Just have to see what happens....
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Jersey32D
My understanding is that ERJ195 G-FBEG, G-FBEH, G-FBEI, G-FBEJ and OY-GDD are still at NWI. I was at NWI at the end of August and saw all of them. OY-GDD is still marked as G-FBEK. Are you sure that they have now left the UK |
Originally Posted by Airbus123
(Post 10904318)
Jersey32D
My understanding is that ERJ195 G-FBEG, G-FBEH, G-FBEI, G-FBEJ and OY-GDD are still at NWI. I was at NWI at the end of August and saw all of them. OY-GDD is still marked as G-FBEK. Are you sure that they have now left the UK |
Originally Posted by Whispering Giant
(Post 10904317)
Heard various rumours recently from numerous sources, that Flybe is to make a comeback. Just have to see what happens....
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Originally Posted by JSCL
(Post 10904330)
When passing through MAN 2 weeks ago there was still a Dash8 on the ground there parked at a stand too. Unless that's moved now?
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Flybe Dash 8
There are no ex-Flybe Dash 8’s left in the UK now.
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Originally Posted by JobsaGoodun
(Post 10906241)
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How is it possible that Flybe`s administrators have retained the company`s operating licence & slots?
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10906389)
How is it possible that Flybe`s administrators have retained the company`s operating licence & slots?
Operating and Route Licences of Flybe Limited: CAA decision 1/2020 has been withdrawn. The Operating and Route Licences of Flybe Limited: CAA decision 1/2020 has been withdrawn due to the amendment to EU Regulation 1008/2008 dated 28 May 2020 which retrospectively amends that Regulation. As referenced in the Proposals, the Joint Administrators appealed the CAA Decision to the Secretary of State for Transport, the Rt Hon Grant Shapps MP, on 30 April 2020. However, during the course of that appeal process, the relevant EU legislation, namely EC Regulation No 1008/2008, was amended by Regulation (EU) 2020/969, such that the relevant threshold test for assessing the suspension or revocation of the Company’s OL was changed to account for the impact of the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic on the aviation industry. The Joint Administrators successfully argued that the CAA’s decision to revoke the Company’s OL should therefore be withdrawn and a fresh assessment made under the new test in the amended legislation. As a result, on 9 July 2020, the CAA withdrew its decision to revoke the Company’s OL, subject to certain undertakings from the Joint Administrators to, amongst others, not take bookings or sell tickets for flights without the CAA having confirmed the undertakings’ release, and the Company has therefore retained its OL. The Joint Administrators subsequently withdrew their appeal to the Secretary of State. Crucially, the Company’s retention of its OL has in turn so far enabled the Company to retain its right to hold its slots at those airports in which it operated, with the exception of its slots at London Heathrow which are subject to ongoing dispute with IAG. |
Almost as if that question was anticipated.
How is it possible that an "entity" can preserve own & manage such perishable commodities. Who would be providing the necessary proof that the "entity" can provide & meet all required operating stipulations from the CAA at the present time. Always considered to be issued an AOC an airline required a reporting & answerable Chief Pilot accepted by the CAA..Do the Administrators then have a Chief Pilot? The slot retaining is quite plainly "bonkers". |
I understand that the CAA position is that an Accountable Manager must be in place, but if there are no operations ongoing, there is no risk to be managed and therefore other postholders are desirable but not essential during a period of suspension.
The question as to why anyone thinks this is a good idea and will be anything other than throwing good money after bad is a wholly different one. |
Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10906410)
Almost as if that question was anticipated.
How is it possible that an "entity" can preserve own & manage such perishable commodities. Who would be providing the necessary proof that the "entity" can provide & meet all required operating stipulations from the CAA at the present time. Always considered to be issued an AOC an airline required a reporting & answerable Chief Pilot accepted by the CAA..Do the Administrators then have a Chief Pilot? The slot retaining is quite plainly "bonkers". Had good look on google and www.acl-uk.org website found this Flybe Slots for London City Airport W20-Initial-Coordination-Report Flybe reclaimed their historics slots from the Winter 2019/2020 season, causing slight runway overages for the time being. As Flybe still hold their operating licence and with the outcome of the administration process being uncertain, the Flybe slots remain in the Winter 2020/2021 schedule. |
Originally Posted by Airbus123
(Post 10904318)
Jersey32D
My understanding is that ERJ195 G-FBEG, G-FBEH, G-FBEI, G-FBEJ and OY-GDD are still at NWI. I was at NWI at the end of August and saw all of them. OY-GDD is still marked as G-FBEK. Are you sure that they have now left the UK |
FLYBE IS BACK.
Brand and remaining assets sold by administrator |
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUKKBN2740YN
Flybe seen flying again in 2021 after administrators agree to sale |
Completely bonkers
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I notice that there's no mention of one very important element in any of the announcement - slots. As the business is being sold but not the legal entity, the Operating Licence and AOC will need to be obtained from scratch, so logically the same would apply on slots - unless anyone has any insight to the contrary?
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