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I wasn't suggesting that the Q400s are dogs, my point was that blaming the Q400 for all of flyBe's problems isn't realistic. A shiny new fleet of A220s, for example, won't solve a thing. You could argue that flying 150 seat jets around the UK half empty would make things a lot worse... The A220s are not exactly trouble-free at the moment either.
[QUOTE=desk_bound;10597285] ATR 72-600 35 knots dry runway 28 knots wet, Q400 32 knots both ....... The ATR is better in the dry than the Q? Granted, at the Isle of Man its wet more often than it is dry! I think some people have decided they do not like the Q and all of flyBe's woes are due to it. Personally I don't think there is much between them. They both have the disadvantages associated with props, but the advantage of low fuel-burn, which is important on regional routes, especially when air passengers pay APD and train passengers do not, for example. |
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Originally Posted by SealinkBF
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Check the date on the article, whitelighter. And the code share agreement was confirmed today |
I have been flying on the Q400 for 13 years basically since they were introduced at Flybe, granted not on a weekly basis like some commuters. I have never had a tech cancellation or extensive delay. I am probably just very lucky but it’s like any mode of transport the more you use it the more experience you have both positive and negative. I take the train regularly to work and have more problems on that compared to my family who use it only at weekends. The Q400 hasn’t been grounded for engine issues nor was it entirely grounded during the SAS fiasco over the gear. I think people forget that these aircraft are operating multiple sectors a day compared to some airlines with the jet - so they will be prone to more TLC. |
Flybe, Europe’s largest regional airline and Loganair, Scotland’s airline, today (17 October) announced a new co-operation agreement that offers customers the choice of a broad range of additional travel connections throughout the UK and Europe |
Originally Posted by desk_bound
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ATR 72-600 35 knots dry runway 28 knots wet, Q400 32 knots both ....... |
Originally Posted by virginblue
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So statistically how much more often are ATR flights cancelled/diverted when it is wet because of the 4kt disadvantage in those conditions - compared to Q400 diversions when it is dry because of the 3kt disadvantage of the Q400 in that scenario?
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The majority of cancellations on the Isle of Man are not down to a wet runway. If the wind howls on the Isle of Man then it’s usually way out of limits. Of course there is the odd time it’s an issue but its rare. the majority of cancellations by a mile are down to the below standard ILS. having operated there for a couple of winters if they had a cat II then there would have rarely been a divert. The ILS affects all operators regardless of type. as for FLYBE vs stobart? Since FLYBE took over there have been a lot of tech / crewing issues plus frequency reductions especially on LPL |
Thanks. My question was more of a rhetoric nature as I feel that the "crosswind issue" that comes up regularly is wildly exaggerated.
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Originally Posted by virginblue
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Thanks. My question was more of a rhetoric nature as I feel that the "crosswind issue" that comes up regularly is wildly exaggerated.
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Having read that Hop is being downsized, maybe Flybe feeding pax into the Air France network replacing Hop?
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Flybe has recently installed a 737-800 Simulator at their training academy in Exeter...
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The Boeing B738 simulator is nothing to do with Flybe, and is owned by a private company who are renting the spare space from Flybe. They use the 738 sim to offer flight experiences and is owned and run by a former TUI pilot. |
I have flown DUB to Southampton Every friday for the last two years and only twice it has been early and very rare ontime.
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Originally Posted by Bournemouthair
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I have flown DUB to Southampton Every friday for the last two years and only twice it has been early and very rare ontime.
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As part of the ongoing program of operational resilience, the business has entered into a wet lease agreement with Stobart Air for two E190 aircraft. Discussions between the Commercial Department and Crew Resource Planning have highlighted Belfast and Edinburgh as the bases best suited to the wet lease. These aircraft will operate on the heavily subscribed routes into London City providing enhancements to our corporate markets from both locations.One E190 aircraft will be based at each of those locations, operating throughout the winter schedule from 01 December 2019. This will not affect the cabin crew numbers at either base, and the planned recruitment for EDI will continue, the wet lease, along with additional crew members will support and ease the operations out of both Belfast and Edinburgh. This will also free up a number of duty days providing relief throughout the winter for Belfast and Edinburgh where we have been particularly affected by crew shortages.If you have any questions, please make contact with your Performance Manager who can help answer any questions that you might have Not sure if this is new information |
Makes absolute sense.
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Originally Posted by ajamieson
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Makes absolute sense.
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Would these E190s be the two aircraft currently(?) leased to KLM?
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