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ATNotts 6th Oct 2019 11:11


Originally Posted by stewyb (Post 10587797)
VS may wish to leverage it’s parent Delta and switch a few of the many A220’s it has on order to the VS/Connect business. Would imagine the cost savings by returning the worn out and more expensive to run e75’s will be significant!

And of course with the USA slapping punitive duties on aircraft imports from the EU, Delta might see the prospect of diverting some of their A220 order to FlyBe thus saving additional costs that may not have been budgeted for.

Flitefone 6th Oct 2019 11:33


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 10587843)
And of course with the USA slapping punitive duties on aircraft imports from the EU, Delta might see the prospect of diverting some of their A220 order to FlyBe thus saving additional costs that may not have been budgeted for.

....are you sure?.. the A220 was developed with Canadian Government and Bombardier investment (not Airbus) in addition to the assembly line in Montreal, the aircraft will also be assembled in Alabama, USA.

Airbus' manufacturing growth in the United States advanced another step today in Mobile, Alabama, as construction of the company's A220 Manufacturing Facility officially launched with a groundbreaking ceremony.16 Jan 2019”

FF

PDXCWL45 6th Oct 2019 11:51


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 10587843)
And of course with the USA slapping punitive duties on aircraft imports from the EU, Delta might see the prospect of diverting some of their A220 order to FlyBe thus saving additional costs that may not have been budgeted for.

Airbus has an A220 production line in Mobile, Alabama so only EU manufactured aircraft would be effected and I doubt Delta will receive any.

ATNotts 6th Oct 2019 13:13


Originally Posted by Flitefone (Post 10587858)


....are you sure?.. the A220 was developed with Canadian Government and Bombardier investment (not Airbus) in addition to the assembly line in Montreal, the aircraft will also be assembled in Alabama, USA.

Airbus' manufacturing growth in the United States advanced another step today in Mobile, Alabama, as construction of the company's A220 Manufacturing Facility officially launched with a groundbreaking ceremony.16 Jan 2019”

FF

Probably not then!

MKY661 6th Oct 2019 13:15


Originally Posted by OltonPete (Post 10587346)
Lets hope they don't go down the route of Connect as the main segment of the name but on this same theme G-FBXE ATR is all white on the apron at East Mids, will this aircraft sport the new brand/scheme?

It's going to be reregistered to Stobart Air so I'd imagine it will stay all white

JobsaGoodun 6th Oct 2019 15:03


Originally Posted by toledoashley (Post 10587762)
Delta own 49% of Virgin Atlantic and Air France/KLM 31%

Agreed, but they’d have to convince the other 70% owners of Flybe that getting bigger, more expensive aircraft was a good decision and I can’t see that as an imminent decision.

stewyb 6th Oct 2019 15:22


Originally Posted by JobsaGoodun (Post 10587979)


Agreed, but they’d have to convince the other 70% owners of Flybe that getting bigger, more expensive aircraft was a good decision and I can’t see that as an imminent decision.

Isn't it also a known fact the E75's cost a small fortune to operate and a sensible mid/long term business case for replacements could be the correct direction of travel, sooner rather than later and whilst the new company is in the midst of a full on top down restructure!

SWBKCB 6th Oct 2019 15:27

So the minority shareholder of the minority shareholder will re-allocate some of their expensive new assets to help turn round a loss making business in a declining market? Should go down well in Atlanta!

Startledgrapefruit 6th Oct 2019 18:17


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10588001)
So the minority shareholder of the minority shareholder will re-allocate some of their expensive new assets to help turn round a loss making business in a declining market? Should go down well in Atlanta!

its a crazy idea
But it might just work !


bad bear 7th Oct 2019 13:36

Im not sure if its been reported on PPRUNE yet...https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...mingham-route/

It will be interesting to see if Flybe stay on the BHX to GLA and /or EDI routes once Easyjet start operating


bb

fjencl 7th Oct 2019 15:50


Originally Posted by bad bear (Post 10588656)
Im not sure if its been reported on PPRUNE yet...https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...mingham-route/

It will be interesting to see if Flybe stay on the BHX to GLA and /or EDI routes once Easyjet start operating


bb

Yes already reported weeks ago.

bad bear 7th Oct 2019 17:51

I saw Birmingham to Glasgow a few weeks ago but not Birmingham to Edinburgh.


https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9057151.html

ETOPS 8th Oct 2019 07:01

Last week Brigantee wrote;

Press release next Tuesday apparently about the order
Well here we are and there's no sign yet of an A220 announcement - however you might just have been a week early ...


EastMids 8th Oct 2019 09:42

Ho hum... Coincidence? Airbus announces undisclosed orders for 14 A220s (ten -100s and four -300s) - it appears these are two different orders from separate customers

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...bove-1-461320/

116d 8th Oct 2019 09:48


Originally Posted by EastMids (Post 10589361)
Ho hum... Coincidence? Airbus announces undisclosed order for 14 A220s (ten -100s and four -300s)

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...bove-1-461320/

It correlates with this, however that rumoured tweet talked about 20 frames and could be me doing 2+2=5...


PDXCWL45 8th Oct 2019 10:25


Originally Posted by 116d (Post 10589369)
It correlates with this, however that rumoured tweet talked about 20 frames and could be me doing 2+2=5...

https://twitter.com/airportnewsMAN/s...07933067579393

Could be 6 options.

EZYMAN 8th Oct 2019 19:28

No official announcement then?

dsandson 8th Oct 2019 19:38


Originally Posted by ETOPS (Post 10586965)
...
As for an announcement I've still got the 15th in the diary........

I assume next Tuesday is still in the diary then?

EZYMAN 8th Oct 2019 19:48

We will have to wait and see!

ETOPS 8th Oct 2019 21:27


I assume next Tuesday is still in the diary then?

Yes - new boss hosting a "Leadership" briefing to inform heads of Depts about the future plans so we should get some details soon afterwards.


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