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PDXCWL45 20th Apr 2019 11:07


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10451867)
Not quite sure how to interpret this. Does it mean Ryanair is closing all routes from Belfast ? The Ryanair website seems to show tickets on sale for some routes into 2020

I'd imagine that they would operate the routes with non based aircraft

2Para 20th Apr 2019 12:15


Originally Posted by Blakedean (Post 10451859)

Doesn’t say much for a country when Ryanair exit completely

or an airline who persists in whinging and begging for the cheapest of cheap in fees, until they effectively run themselves out of the country, friend.

1sky 22nd Apr 2019 20:16

What are Ryanair doing without the 737Max-200s that were about to enter service?

2Para 22nd Apr 2019 20:32


Originally Posted by 1sky (Post 10453423)
What are Ryanair doing without the 737Max-200s that were about to enter service?

word is christmas for the new software, id say they will wangle a deal to extend deal of current aircratf with lease companies

racedo 23rd Apr 2019 10:49


Originally Posted by 1sky (Post 10453423)
What are Ryanair doing without the 737Max-200s that were about to enter service?

They had 2 a month coming so really makes little difference to fleet size, some of the older aircraft that were planned for disposal will be held a bit longer, some culling of unprofitable routes, utilise the fleet a bit more during summer and get to September and not an issue until summer season 2020 starts next year. May mop up some spare aircraft from leases co's.

No doubt a discussion with Boeing on penalties for delivery failure and future orders and Mr Boeing will be wondering whether that 20% discount of list may really be 50% after the negotiations.

Seljuk22 23rd Apr 2019 16:47

..close/minimize some unprofitable bases e.g. BFS, HHN, NRN etc. and blame Boeing for it.

racedo 23rd Apr 2019 23:53


Originally Posted by Seljuk22 (Post 10454018)
..close/minimize some unprofitable bases e.g. BFS, HHN, NRN etc. and blame Boeing for it.

Boeing Q1's are out this week. They will make interesting reading.

CCFAIRPORT 26th Apr 2019 09:32

One more route dropped from Frankfurt/HHN

Girona from the end of October

davidjohnson6 26th Apr 2019 13:14

As Prestwick is to Glasgow, so Hahn is to Frankfurt...or so it seems

SealinkBF 26th Apr 2019 21:17


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10456377)
As Prestwick is to Glasgow, so Hahn is to Frankfurt...or so it seems

I think Hahn is much further away, or do you mean how FR now treat PIK?

Monkton3 27th Apr 2019 05:12

Or perhaps,

As Glasgow is to Edinburgh, so Hahn is to Frankfurt...

Lon12 1st May 2019 08:56

Lisbon -> Valencia
Lisbon -> Seville
Lisbon -> Malaga

3 new routes from October (3w)

LGS6753 1st May 2019 09:07

From Blue Swan Daily:

Ryanair aims to more than double the number of services to Jordan, following the successful launches of services to the country in 2018 (Reuters, 29-Apr-2019). Ryanair CEO Michael O’Leary commented: “We could double the number of routes to 40 routes connecting other cities in Germany, Poland, Italy, Greece and others to Jordan”. The carrier currently operates 14 routes to Jordan, with an additional four new routes launching in winter 2018/2019.

Seljuk22 1st May 2019 16:56

Amman to MLA, FMM and SKG; Aqaba to BGY (each 2 weekly)
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/%...air/?market=jo

Lon12 14th May 2019 12:04

On sale extra-flights for Christmas 2019 and new year but also some routes for summer 2020 until October 2020.

racedo 14th May 2019 16:12

https://www.independent.ie/sport/hor...-38110425.html

Getting his priorities right. Can always return to it, can never see your children grow up again.

racedo 24th May 2019 12:04

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...share-buyback/

Loss of €180 million in half year to March 30th v €300 million Easyjet loss.

Think there will be lots more Airline casualties.

As forecast Boeing have come to an agreement with Ryanair on late Max deliveries. This involved current debt been written off with a big number being involved.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news...PmbS?li=AA56Yk

jpta2000 9th Jun 2019 07:17

Ryanair to set up Malta Air
 
Ryanair will be setting up a Maltese subsidiary. It will be taking over the present 61 routes from the island and plans are to increase the based aircraft from 6 to 10.
Some aircraft are to be registered in Malta and a maintenance facility is being set up.
Source: Times of Malta online, 9 June 2019.

pamann 9th Jun 2019 09:54


Originally Posted by jpta2000 (Post 10489659)
Ryanair will be setting up a Maltese subsidiary. It will be taking over the present 61 routes from the island and plans are to increase the based aircraft from 6 to 10.
Some aircraft are to be registered in Malta and a maintenance facility is being set up.
Source: Times of Malta online, 9 June 2019.

Perhaps Air Malta should set up a subsidiary to compete and call it Air Ryan.

I’m sure O’Leary would have something to say about the name.

How original.

davidjohnson6 9th Jun 2019 10:14

From the article, it sounds like Ryanair has made a significant concession to the Maltese Govt by giving them a golden share. It's not clear from the article what the Maltese Govt has given to Ryanair in return...

racedo 9th Jun 2019 13:55


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10489745)
From the article, it sounds like Ryanair has made a significant concession to the Maltese Govt by giving them a golden share. It's not clear from the article what the Maltese Govt has given to Ryanair in return...

Malta Govt know that airline cannot survive on its own so left with 3 options.

Sell to highest bidder.......... few bidders

Close and let free market offer flights

Work wit Airline bringing most people to the Island and happy to continue expanding

Small picture is small airliebe some employees, big picture is the Islands tourism industry providing jobs. Better the bigger picture.

inOban 9th Jun 2019 15:36

Weren't Ryanair already selling Air Malta tickets on their website?

DC3 Dave 9th Jun 2019 15:46

Some more detail:

https://www.timesofmalta.com/article...n-malta.712313

CCFAIRPORT 13th Jun 2019 08:47

4 NEW ROUTES FROM FRANCE

Bordeaux to Agadir 2pw
Bordeaux to Thessaloniki 2pw
Marseille to Chania 2pw
Marseille to Dublin 3pw

All begins April 2020

TSR2 15th Jun 2019 10:51

Ryanair have 'offered' to announce a large order for a Boeing 737MAX variant at the Paris Air Show subject to 'advantageous' price discounts.

racedo 15th Jun 2019 13:13


Originally Posted by TSR2 (Post 10494307)
Ryanair have 'offered' to announce a large order for a Boeing 737MAX variant at the Paris Air Show subject to 'advantageous' price discounts.

Business is business.

stewyb 15th Jun 2019 21:51


Originally Posted by racedo (Post 10494373)
Business is business.

A fantastic time for any airline to negotiate a cracking deal with Boeing for the MAX/variants. We all know that it will be fixed and safe to fly at some point, yet reduced purchase costs will be the order of the day as Boeing will want a return to brand credibility and future viability!!

davidjohnson6 15th Jun 2019 22:09

October 2001 all over again ?

alm1 15th Jun 2019 22:38


Originally Posted by stewyb (Post 10494644)
A fantastic time for any airline to negotiate a cracking deal with Boeing for the MAX/variants. We all know that it will be fixed and safe to fly at some point, yet reduced purchase costs will be the order of the day as Boeing will want a return to brand credibility and future viability!!

No. Max is a Frankenstein of a plane with questionable certification process and any future crash (and those do happen) may cost airlines operating the type a lot more than the savings. And imagine if a Ryanair Max crashed for some reason (statistically this may happen one day as they cannot operate 500 planes for tens of years without any)

racedo 15th Jun 2019 23:17


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10494660)
October 2001 all over again ?

Yup

Max 200 list price is $125 million..... figure Ryanair will get them for €30-35 million if that.


racedo 15th Jun 2019 23:28


Originally Posted by alm1 (Post 10494670)
No. Max is a Frankenstein of a plane with questionable certification process and any future crash (and those do happen) may cost airlines operating the type a lot more than the savings. And imagine if a Ryanair Max crashed for some reason (statistically this may happen one day as they cannot operate 500 planes for tens of years without any)

Oh it will be certified beyond belief and doubt they will be flying for Ryanair before next summer such will the going over occur.

There will be huge amounts of SIM time for anybody flying it.

SARF 16th Jun 2019 19:27

Yup. 900 hours in the Sim learning how to reprogram the flight management systems in less than 90 seconds

brian_dromey 17th Jun 2019 08:18

There is speculation that the -10MAX does not have the MCAS system, as the additional length moves the CoG backwards, so it flies like the NG's. If the -10MAX is certified as an NG variant then it could fly while the -8 and -9 are grounded. There are a lot of if's and buts there - if Ryanair do order, my guess is it would be the 737-10 variant and the MAX branding would be dropped, as Mr. Trump suggested.

Lon12 17th Jun 2019 09:00


Originally Posted by brian_dromey (Post 10495521)
There is speculation that the -10MAX does not have the MCAS system, as the additional length moves the CoG backwards, so it flies like the NG's. If the -10MAX is certified as an NG variant then it could fly while the -8 and -9 are grounded. There are a lot of if's and buts there - if Ryanair do order, my guess is it would be the 737-10 variant and the MAX branding would be dropped, as Mr. Trump suggested.


what? MAX-10 for Ryanair???

I think is too big for FR. Up to 236 seats. Bigger than a 321.

Rwy in Sight 17th Jun 2019 09:28

Why put so many seats initially?

PDXCWL45 17th Jun 2019 09:31


Originally Posted by Lon12 (Post 10495551)



what? MAX-10 for Ryanair???

I think is too big for FR. Up to 236 seats. Bigger than a 321.

How would it be too big? Both Wizz and Easyjet both operate similar capacity aircraft and seem to be doing ok. I'm sure Ryanair would be fine operating a similar sized aircraft. Lauda already does.

GOJET1 17th Jun 2019 09:47

The A321neo is typically 235-239 seats with LCCs, e.g. Wizz 239, Cebu 236, easyJet 235, so about the same as the MAX-10, although Airbus says the A321neo can technically hold up to 244. I can't post the URL as I am too new, but search on Airbus' website for its A321neo.It would be interesting to see the unit costs of the MAX-10 versus both Ryanair's existing 738s and its coming 197-seat MAX-200s.

racedo 17th Jun 2019 10:59


Originally Posted by Lon12 (Post 10495551)

what? MAX-10 for Ryanair???

I think is too big for FR. Up to 236 seats. Bigger than a 321.

On some of the bigger routes they will easily sell out the -10 at peak time, 1 extra crew member and 25% more seats. Sun routes will not be an issue

Have flown W6 and U2 in the 321 and prices are way down from where they were previously on some routes

CCFAIRPORT 5th Jul 2019 08:52

NEW ROUTE

Bristol to Grenoble

1pw (Sat)

begins 11 JAN 2020 till 28 MAR 2020

racedo 5th Jul 2019 12:25


Originally Posted by CCFAIRPORT (Post 10510150)
NEW ROUTE

Bristol to Grenoble

1pw (Sat)

begins 11 JAN 2020 till 28 MAR 2020

Ski route..


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