Sorry but I wouldn’t get to alarmed by the results 1 ) Which Magazine that had 4000 grumbly old “ Victor Meldrews “ read and comment on 2 ) That 4000 readers also read the Daily Mail and hate anything English 3 ) Average age 78 |
Originally Posted by MARKEYD
(Post 10552465)
Sorry but I wouldn’t get to alarmed by the results 1 ) Which Magazine that had 4000 grumbly old “ Victor Meldrews “ read and comment on 2 ) That 4000 readers also read the Daily Mail and hate anything English 3 ) Average age 78 |
Being slated by Which?, O`Leary would regard as little more than free publicity..
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They provide a reliable regular bus service, not a luxury coach once a week - which and its readers need to get real. |
Originally Posted by airsound
(Post 10552450)
Huffpost says https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...yBrief23082019 Or go directly to Which if you're a subscriber. airsound It hasn't got any credibility in its surveys and hasn't had for decades and uses press releases as yet another method of adding on subscribers. Unlike other surveys there is no proof of a single person answering the survey 1.) they have ever flown Ryanair 2.) involved in contacting Ryanair customer services. Yet UK media quote them as Gospel. |
Ryanair confirms that will close 4 bases in Spain next January. https://www.brecorder.com/2019/08/24...xt-year-union/ |
One can’t help but wonder how quickly will those airports become new bases for other airlines in the group that are on a lower cost base? |
Personally I think it’s a mix of the Jet2 effect and the Max aircraft issues. |
Originally Posted by FlyboyUK
(Post 10552992)
One can’t help but wonder how quickly will those airports become new bases for other airlines in the group that are on a lower cost base? |
I suspect that now their staff are on proper contracts and therefore more expensive than casual labour, that their cost base is much the same as their competitors. How does Wizz pay its staff?
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Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10553160)
Personally I think it’s a mix of the Jet2 effect and the Max aircraft issues. More of a contant willingness to review what they are doing, what is working, what is not, what needs to change quickly and slowly and doing it. No resting on Laurels but getting better all the time and not being wedded to history. In addition there are 4 people seeking MOL's job in 2022. |
Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10553160)
Personally I think it’s a mix of the Jet2 effect and the Max aircraft issues. FR was my only real LCC choice for years out of BHX/EMA. Maybe 30+ flights but now I have now stopped using them completely. Jet2 beats them into a cocked hat.Price,their own,not Agency staff, aircraft, timings -the lot SSF |
Originally Posted by racedo
(Post 10553311)
Nope
More of a contant willingness to review what they are doing, what is working, what is not, what needs to change quickly and slowly and doing it. No resting on Laurels but getting better all the time and not being wedded to history. In addition there are 4 people seeking MOL's job in 2022. |
Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10553346)
Thats my point, Jet2 have given people a choice and they are all over the canaries, hence making Ryanair review what is not working “for them” the Jet2 effect. |
I’m aware of the route network, however the UK holiday market especially in the south East is / was massive to Ryanair, in the past few years Jet2 has stomped all over Ryanair on almost all holiday routes and it doesn’t look like they have any intention of slowing down anytime soon. |
Originally Posted by paully
(Post 10552651)
Being slated by Which?, O`Leary would regard as little more than free publicity..
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Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10553397)
I’m aware of the route network, however the UK holiday market especially in the south East is / was massive to Ryanair, in the past few years Jet2 has stomped all over Ryanair on almost all holiday routes and it doesn’t look like they have any intention of slowing down anytime soon. |
Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10553346)
Thats my point, Jet2 have given people a choice and they are all over the canaries, hence making Ryanair review what is not working “for them” the Jet2 effect. In 2018 Jet2 fly 12 million people, in Juy 2019 Ryanair flew 14.8 million. |
Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10553397)
I’m aware of the route network, however the UK holiday market especially in the south East is / was massive to Ryanair, in the past few years Jet2 has stomped all over Ryanair on almost all holiday routes and it doesn’t look like they have any intention of slowing down anytime soon. |
Originally Posted by caaardiff
(Post 10553841)
What routes does FR operate with aircraft based in the Canaries to the UK where there's an overlap with Jet2. I would've thought any Canaries routes from STN/LTN would be operated by aircraft based in the UK, which is then irrelevant to the closure of the Canaries bases.
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Do Ryanair do any W sectors now.
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Originally Posted by yeo valley
(Post 10553933)
Do Ryanair do any W sectors now.
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Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10553966)
Yeap LBA based aircraft does LBA-IBZ-MPL-IBZ-LBA every Thursday and Sunday afternoon this summer.
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Having gone through FR's timetable for December for all TFS-UK flights, there will be 54 flights per week, split as 40 operated by aircraft based in the UK and 14 by aircraft based in TFS. They fly to 13 UK destinations from TFS;
5 Airports are operated solely by UK based aircraft (BOH/BRS/EDI/LBA/LTN) 6 Airports are operated by a mix of UK and TFS based aircraft (BHX/BFS/EMA/PIK/MAN/STN/) 2 Airports are operated solely by TFS based aircraft (CWL/NCL) The Airports that have mixed based aircraft flying the route only have 1 or 2 flights per week from the TFS base. For example BHX has 4 flights per week, 3 by BHX aircraft and 1 by TFS. If there's no slack in the BHX based aircraft schedule, BHX could lose 1 flight per week, or another flight to make way for the TFS flight. CWL (2 pw) and NCL (3 pw) stand to lose their flights, although various articles state that no routes will be lost. I can't see how they can operate W patterns on TFS without taxiing crews around and putting them up in hotels, which I can't imagine FR paying for! Would a DUB-CWL-TFS-CWL-DUB be within crew hours? Could a random routing using 2 aircraft work; Aircraft 1) DUB-CWL-TFS-DUB & Aircraft 2) DUB-TFS-CWL-DUB, also giving CWL a DUB flight a few times a week. |
BHX-TFS
Originally Posted by caaardiff
(Post 10554016)
Having gone through FR's timetable for December for all TFS-UK flights, there will be 54 flights per week, split as 40 operated by aircraft based in the UK and 14 by aircraft based in TFS. They fly to 13 UK destinations from TFS;
5 Airports are operated solely by UK based aircraft (BOH/BRS/EDI/LBA/LTN) 6 Airports are operated by a mix of UK and TFS based aircraft (BHX/BFS/EMA/PIK/MAN/STN/) 2 Airports are operated solely by TFS based aircraft (CWL/NCL) The Airports that have mixed based aircraft flying the route only have 1 or 2 flights per week from the TFS base. For example BHX has 4 flights per week, 3 by BHX aircraft and 1 by TFS. If there's no slack in the BHX based aircraft schedule, BHX could lose 1 flight per week, or another flight to make way for the TFS flight. CWL (2 pw) and NCL (3 pw) stand to lose their flights, although various articles state that no routes will be lost. I can't see how they can operate W patterns on TFS without taxiing crews around and putting them up in hotels, which I can't imagine FR paying for! Would a DUB-CWL-TFS-CWL-DUB be within crew hours? Could a random routing using 2 aircraft work; Aircraft 1) DUB-CWL-TFS-DUB & Aircraft 2) DUB-TFS-CWL-DUB, also giving CWL a DUB flight a few times a week. I assume there is a 90 day consultation period for the base closures, which then actually allow for flights still to be sold in the short-term even if some are unlikely to operate such as CWL and NCL - TFS (unless of course they open new UK bases). Although I am not sure what the percentage rate is of over-turning a decision during the 90-day consultation period but I bet it is low. Pete |
I think you forgot LPL, Caaardiff. |
Originally Posted by eye2eye5
(Post 10554097)
I think you forgot LPL, Caaardiff. |
NEWCASTLE will have the same problem if/when the Gerona base closes
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Originally Posted by eu01
(Post 10553988)
Rather unlikely next summer. British based aircraft won't be able to serve intra-EU flights while W-pattern LBA-IBZ-UK(any)-IBZ-LBA would be too long,
It can then return IBZ LBA. Only issue would be intra-UK routes (STN - EDI for instance) if the appropriate freedoms were not approved. I think the only UK registered aircraft is G-RUKA and that potentially couldn't operate the IBZ MPL IBZ or any other intra EU routes if no agreements were in place post Brexit. That's my understanding anyway but happy to be corrected if others know different! |
Originally Posted by commit aviation
(Post 10554582)
Depends surely on the registration of the aircraft. Any registered within the EU can operate into the UK subject to the appropriate agreements being in place. So for example an EI registered Ryanair aircraft could operate LBA - IBZ and then still be perfectly ok to operate IBZ MPL IBZ as Ireland is still within the EU.
It can then return IBZ LBA. Only issue would be intra-UK routes (STN - EDI for instance) if the appropriate freedoms were not approved. I think the only UK registered aircraft is G-RUKA and that potentially couldn't operate the IBZ MPL IBZ or any other intra EU routes if no agreements were in place post Brexit. That's my understanding anyway but happy to be corrected if others know different! |
Commit - your understanding is exactly right. As EI- registered aircraft, Ryanair would have rights to continue flying as it does today. The only constraints would be on use of an EI- registered aircraft on UK>non EU services or use of the G-reg aircraft on intra-EU services assuming in both cases that no Brexit deal is reached.
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The EU has already announced its "no-deal" position, which will essentially allow the current regime to continue for a limited period. It's one of a series of "mini-deals" that certain politicians deny exist.
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Originally Posted by LBIA
(Post 10553966)
Yeap LBA based aircraft dose LBA-IBZ-MPL-IBZ-LBA ever Thursday and Sunday afternoon this summer.
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
(Post 10555075)
The EU has already announced its "no-deal" position, which will essentially allow the current regime to continue for a limited period. It's one of a series of "mini-deals" that certain politicians deny exist.
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When will spring 2020 be put on sale in full ? I can see a number of routes that are on sale only up to late October 2019 - amd wondering whether these are going to end later this year, or if they will resume at the start of April next year...
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10556656)
When will spring 2020 be put on sale in full ? I can see a number of routes that are on sale only up to late October 2019 - amd wondering whether these are going to end later this year, or if they will resume at the start of April next year...
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TFS-NCL & TFS-CWL have been taken off sale, with the last flights on 5th Jan & 6th Jan respectively.
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Originally Posted by caaardiff
(Post 10557725)
TFS-NCL & TFS-CWL have been taken off sale, with the last flights on 5th Jan & 6th Jan respectively.
Beauvais Belfast Bergamo Cologne Copenhagen Eindhoven Knock Liverpool Milan-Malpensa Porto Santander Santiago-Comp. Treviso Valencia Vitoria and Wroclaw (announced few months ago) |
From LPA few routes have been taken off sales such as
Bologna Charleroi Eindhoven Glasgow-Prestwick Hamburg Krakow Leeds-LBA Liverpool Oslo-Torp Santander Stockholm-Skvasta Treviso I am not sure for 3 routes LBA LPL and PIK ! routes were mentionned as year around but disappeared after October 2019 ! so if someone knows ! I do apologize in adavance if it's a mistake ! |
I guess this is related to the TFS base closure so there's an associated rejig of schedules
I'm sure i read TFS base is closing |
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