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Dobbo_Dobbo 15th Jan 2018 18:36

Cheers Roverman (once again!)

I suppose if the "old" part of the building is upgraded with new technology then floor space can be saved.

I worry about the flexibility and room for growth additional space can provide (nb - useful space, such as additional retail) whilst the builders are on site and planning is in hand. However, someone has to pay for it!

Obviously, there is the prospect / possibility of redevelopment of T1/3 from the mid 2020's onwards.

Slot hand backs due, so it'll be interestiing to see where these go.

AndrewH52 15th Jan 2018 20:39

Really useful information Roverman. I have to say I'm a bit surprised that the Pier 1 will, in effect not be much bigger than the current Pier C (which is roughly 200m x 25m at its widest). Admittedly there will be much more internal space given the split over two floors - I assume ground floor will be office space, etc rather than lounge space.

Your comment too in a later post about the scaling back of the size of the terminal extension is also a cause for concern in terms of accommodating future growth.

On the plus side, I travelled through T2 on Sunday morning and was through and into my taxi within an hour of touch down. It would have been quicker but only half of the e-gates were in operation.

Mr A Tis 16th Jan 2018 15:29

Arrived Monday morning into T2 on CX - same, only 5 of the 10 e-gates in operation. I use e-gates at HKG, AKL & CHC and they scan twice as fast as the UK ones. Felt really at home with the blue buckets in the Skylink though, going to miss those.

Adola69 16th Jan 2018 16:32

Woe woe and thrice woe is they ! (Apols. Frankie Howard)
 
Mmmm, yet again, a great Manchester plan is to be Scaled Back.

Where on earth have the visionary's / the risk takers gone ?

Why scale back? Are those in charge with the future of the Airport so meek and blind that they can't already see that the present plans are at least 5 years late in being started and by the time they are finished we will most likely only just be ahead of the game again, before we find that we've fallen behind the drag curve once more?

I remember a Film, where the phrase " Build it, and they will come " was used to great effect. Yes o.k. a film based on fantasy, but there have been real life precedents before, even at Manchester!

Terminal 1 in the 60's,- when built it was sometimes like a ghost town, but soon proved its worth by putting Manchester well and truly at the top.

Runway extensions in the 60's /70's. Only one or two transatlantic flights that required a greater length than 7000' for a max weight departure, but extensions were built and then more and more came and the airport boomed.

Pier C in the 70's, was called a white elephant, but a few years later what would they have done without it?

Come on Man managers, - manage a thriving business by scaling UP rather than down all the time, - there's just no vision anymore.

The money must still be there, otherwise why publish such grandiose plans about the development in the first place, only to pull the plug and watch the baby go down the plug hole with the bath-water?

How I wish I could for once sing their praises as I did in the past :\

Espada III 16th Jan 2018 19:46


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10019541)
The times in Chroma for ELAL are 1930 arrival and 2100 departure.

Which effectively means an overnight flight arriving 0200 UK ; 0400 Israel. Not ideal for those going to hotels but actually not too bad for those of us going home/to family/our own accommodation.

Which days? Sunday and Thursday?

LAX_LHR 16th Jan 2018 19:50

The days and times for ELAL have now changed.

Looks to be a mainline B737-800. Will now operate mornings with a 0910 arrival into MAN, 1025 departure. Increase in frequency to 3 weekly too with flights now Tue/Thu/Sun.

Starts 1st May.

Scottie Dog 16th Jan 2018 19:53

I understand that El Al times have potentially changed to a morning arrival - in 0910 and out at 1025.

SilverCityKid 17th Jan 2018 05:35

I found this on the FlyBe thread, post #188.

"Heard a rumour that the Fly Be maintenance contract with MAEL ends in March.
Also they are looking at buying the TCX hangar at Manchester as TCX want out of doing own maintenance.
How far fetched are these rumours ?"

If there is anything in the rumour that TCX are planning to withdraw from their Manchester Maintenance base then this is a significant issue for MAN.

Can anybody conrtibute any information on this matter ?

Espada III 17th Jan 2018 05:49


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10021794)
The days and times for ELAL have now changed.

Looks to be a mainline B737-800. Will now operate mornings with a 0910 arrival into MAN, 1025 departure. Increase in frequency to 3 weekly too with flights now Tue/Thu/Sun.

Starts 1st May.


Thanks. That's a very early start from TLV. Pity.

Johnny [email protected] Pants 17th Jan 2018 06:32

Probably about 05:00

MKY661 17th Jan 2018 10:30


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10021794)
The days and times for ELAL have now changed.

Looks to be a mainline B737-800. Will now operate mornings with a 0910 arrival into MAN, 1025 departure. Increase in frequency to 3 weekly too with flights now Tue/Thu/Sun.

Starts 1st May.

Good News, I guess they will operate from T1?


Originally Posted by Mr A Tis (Post 10021578)
Felt really at home with the blue buckets in the Skylink though, going to miss those.

I think the Skylink from the Train Station to T2 will still be there after the Transformation Project? It looks like the Terminal is not being expanded in that area.

LAX_LHR 17th Jan 2018 10:49

ELAL is indeed down as T1 operating.

MKY661 17th Jan 2018 13:06

Just seen on the Jet2 forum that EasyJet are also apparently gonna base 4 aircraft over in T2, if this is true this is surely going to be very confusing?

LAX_LHR 17th Jan 2018 13:11

It’s still all TBC but I believe Jet2 moving flights to T2 was to free up stand still in T1 for Easyjet to keep all 17 based aircraft at T1. Obviously Jet2 would have been given some sort of incentive to do this but that was the plan as I understood it.

planedrive 17th Jan 2018 13:30

Is the easyJet expansion still happening? If they have 17 a/c how many more is that than last year? Last rumour I heard was that with the expansion of Tegel, and with BA utilising wet leases at Gatwick, they couldn't find anyone to operate for them and don't have the capacity to expand in house to fill the slots they got up in MAN. Have they been handed back?

Scottie Dog 17th Jan 2018 13:38

The last that I saw, just a few days ago, was that the plan is for 16 or 17 aircraft.

LAX_LHR 17th Jan 2018 13:40

All slots for 17 based Easyjet are still live.

LAX_LHR 17th Jan 2018 14:21

Turkish Airlines will increase the TK1995/1996 flight from A321 to A330 on Mon/Wed/Fri from 4th June until 14th Sept.

Confirmed and bookable.

BHX5DME 17th Jan 2018 14:35


Originally Posted by LAX_LHR (Post 10022478)
All slots for 17 based Easyjet are still live.

Not 20 then ?

Adola69 17th Jan 2018 15:15


Originally Posted by BHX5DME (Post 10022544)
Not 20 then ?


The slots requested were originally for 20 aircraft, but now pulled back to 17, which is four more than the maximum based in 2017.

So No, not 20 !


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