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GrahamK 3rd Nov 2017 12:22

EK77WNCL

NCL is cleared for the 747-8 on diversions. The only other airport up north cleared for the 748 is Prestwick.

tigertanaka 3rd Nov 2017 13:19

Yes, very good info EK77WNCL.

I was interested to note that NCL lost over 1m pax between 2007 and 2009. This reduction mainly came from 20 airport destinations who all saw a drop of more than 20,000 pax a year each.
  • Of these 20 ALC, AMS, BFS and TFS have recovered that drop and now have passenger levels well above 2007 levels.
  • DUB, MAH, LPA and AGP recovered the drop and are now running at broadly the same levels as 2007.
  • PMI, ORK, BRU, FAO, CFU dropped hugely between 2007 and 2009 and have remained at roughly 2009 levels.
  • PRG and KRK are above 2009 but still far below 2007.
  • CDG and BRS have continued to decline after the severe drop between 2007-2009.
  • For completeness, STN, CIA and BGY have not reappeared
  • Of the 20 routes responsible fore the 1m drop between 2007-2009, total pax on these routes have only increased by 350k in the period 2009-2016.

DXB is the jewel in the crown for NCL and the 186k pax they added in the 10 years over the years 2007-2016 must have really impacted transfer pax at CDG, BRU, AMS (offset by U2 pulling out) and LHR (offset by the loss of STN and LGW).

JollyTraveller 3rd Nov 2017 16:19

What has happened with the Newcastle to Copenhagen SAS Flight?

Jamesair 3rd Nov 2017 17:22

Suspended from 31/10

jensdad 4th Nov 2017 02:43

Some really interesting info has popped up on this thread since I last looked!
I'm not an economist (and I know that airline economics is even more complicated than the normal kind :) ) but the numbers of passengers using the Gatwick and Stansted flights in 2007 make me wonder. Surely someone these days could make money on these routes?
Also, interesting to hear that Newcastle and Prestwick are the only airports in the North-ish end of the UK that are cleared for the B748. Surprised that, at least on this one small point, we've stolen a march on Edinburgh.

Heathrow Harry 4th Nov 2017 10:08

why bother? Only 47 pax versions sold and 8 of those are VIP versions for Saudi

And I can't see much demand for one of the 88 freighters using NCL

EK77WNCL 5th Nov 2017 00:23

I'm assuming you're aware of the principle of a diversion though?

Not much to do with demand... More to do with landing your aircraft where you can, when you can, as safely as possible

I wasn't aware we were cleared to handle it on diversions. Interesting fact. So that'll be; LHR, LGW, STN, MAN, EMA, NCL, PIK, I assume. Also BHX?

benm345 5th Nov 2017 00:42

748
 
Bournemouth?

johnnychips 5th Nov 2017 01:10

Doncaster? It can land the AN 225.

GrahamK 5th Nov 2017 06:20

Anyhow, new routes for S18:
SKG - TOM, LS
BJV - TCX, LS

Is that it?

SWBKCB 5th Nov 2017 08:37

The NIA flightguide also has these as "NEW"...

DUBROVNIK (DBV) - TUI

HURGHADA (HRG) - THOMAS COOK

ENFHIDA (NBE) - THOMAS COOK

GrahamK 7th Nov 2017 05:59

September stats:

Heathrow -6%
Aberdeen +35%
Belfast City 475
Belfast int +9%
Cardiff +10%
Jersey -6%
Southampton +11%

Brussels: +18%
Copenhagen -41%
Nice -15%
Paris CDG +3%
Berlin 3319
Dusseldorf +16%
Cork -40%
Dublin +1%
Rome -11%
Amsterdam +5%
Barcelona -39%
Madrid 3011
Stavanger -6%
Geneva -37%
Prague +3%
Gdansk 2786
Krakow -3
Warsaw 2730
Wroclaw 2194
Dubai +4%
Sanford +49%
Cancun -13%

12 month rolling 5.23m +11%

yeo valley 7th Nov 2017 13:13

BRS pax figures.
 
I see the BRS pax figures missing again.Is this down to BRS that they missing does any one think that may be it.

Jamesair 7th Nov 2017 15:23

Bristol was 14,077 + 1%

jensdad 7th Nov 2017 17:00


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 9947111)
The NIA flightguide also has these as "NEW"...

DUBROVNIK...

HURGHADA...

ENFHIDA.


They've got a short memory, these marketing folks.:*

Cirrussy 7th Nov 2017 17:04

Anybody know why the departing Emirates taxied back off the runway to give it a second shot, causing two aircraft (BA and EZY) to go around today?

Jamesair 9th Nov 2017 21:49

Very good figures from the Airport for October. Pax 504,979 against 444,660 (2016)...increase of 60,319. All categories higher including domestic. That's another month with over 500,000 pax

SWBKCB 11th Nov 2017 05:34

Airline reveals its winter programme from Newcastle - and there are two new destinations - Gazette Live

apaul 11th Nov 2017 08:31

Stretching the definition of new as Jet2 has flown more frequently to Rome and Krakow in the past.

jensdad 11th Nov 2017 13:07

To be fair to them, the company themselves do describe Rome and Antalya as 'two new winter routes' (my italics - I don't think either of these have been served in winter from NCL before? I could be wrong). You're right though: a lot of local news outlets seem to see themselves as cheerleaders for the North East rather than serious news organisations and end up doing the PR industry's work for them. The line between current affairs and PR is getting very blurred, as is the line between positive spin and outright lies, but this is maybe a subject for JetBlast!


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