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akindofmagic 23rd Nov 2017 23:03

The early A320s MYT/TCX had (the first one I ever flew was MSN193) had the old, first generation IAE V2500s with inherent significant performance restrictions. It never happened to me personally but I remember a colleague being stuck for a couple of hours at NCL waiting for the wind to change sufficiently for them to be able to depart.

Engaging the TOGA Bump function on those engines always gave a marvellous grinding noise. Never sounded particularly healthy!

Border Reiver 24th Nov 2017 06:25

Going further back a 1-11 500 without de-min water injection couldn't even make Alicante non stop off 25. Stu Ferguson and I found that out the hard way one day!

skyman771 25th Nov 2017 20:48

It's an interesting point, however these days the Airbus supplied to EZY have their engines "de-rated" as company policy as part of an economy drive as such they never have available the max possible thrust that the engine can "on paper" produce.
In noting the Aitours machines problems in earlier years then perhaps they too did not have the benefit of the availability of max available thrust.

Beatts 26th Nov 2017 11:26

Thats not true, there capable of TOGA which is equivalent to full Thrust and they use this regularly for example intersection takeoffs from Belfast. They use a 'flex' temperature normally which enables them to use a lower thrust setting by entering a temperature but this still gives the correct amount of runway needed and climb out speeds/heights. Its all done on a Toughpad before departure to get the correct flex temp and speeds.

Jamesair 26th Nov 2017 16:27

The airport route statistics for September are now on the CAA website

SWBKCB 26th Nov 2017 18:29


Originally Posted by Jamesair (Post 9969770)
The airport route statistics for September are now on the CAA website


OK - I can take a hint. Not complete - no BRS or EXT for example



PALMA 49,369 41,074 20.20
HEATHROW 43,160 46,013 -6.20
ALICANTE 40,523 36,460 11.14
AMSTERDAM 32,669 31,070 5.15
MALAGA 27,366 27,782 -1.50
FARO 24,364 16,653 46.30
BELFAST INTER 21,465 19,721 8.84
DUBAI 21,227 20,429 3.91
TENERIFE 20,731 16,715 24.03
DUBLIN 20,216 19,987 1.15
IBIZA 16,212 15,216 6.55
ARRECIFE 14,416 11,770 22.48
DALAMAN 14,144 14,727 -3.96
PARIS 13,376 13,038 2.59
REUS 11,309 10,548 7.21
SOUTHAMPTON 11,254 9,973 12.84
CORFU 9,191 9,188 0.03
RHODES 8,926 8,796 1.48
MAHON 8,147 7,702 5.78
LARNACA 8,037 7,124 12.82
ZAKINTHOS 7,998 7,575 5.58
PAPHOS 7,347 6,081 20.82
BURGAS 7,265 5,459 33.08
BARCELONA 6,691 10,946 -38.87
ANTALYA 6,624 5,179 27.90
GIRONA 6,397 1,490 329.33
HERAKLION 6,162 5,804 6.17
LAS PALMAS 6,143 5,783 6.23
FUERTEVENTURA 6,090 4,515 34.88
MALTA 4,660 3,843 21.26
DUSSELDORF 4,211 3,626 16.13
SANFORD 3,974 2,666 49.06
CANCUN 3,828 4,388 -12.76
BERLIN 3,319 0 0.00
NAPLES 3,239 3,208 0.97
NICE 3,223 3,798 -15.14
MADRID 3,011 0 0.00
KOS 2,992 3,527 -15.17
JERSEY 2,853 3,041 -6.18
GDANSK 2,786 0 0.00
WARSAW 2,730 0 0.00
VERONA 2,697 2,652 1.70
KRAKOW 2,567 2,642 -2.84
PRAGUE 2,547 2,482 2.62
GENEVA 2,475 3,917 -36.81
KEFALLINIA 2,474 2,901 -14.72
DUBROVNIK 2,452 3,589 -31.68
ALMERIA 2,378 0 0.00
MURCIA 2,305 2,900 -20.52
BRUSSELS 2,302 1,952 17.93
PISA 2,288 1,796 27.39
ROME - FIUMICINO 2,270 2,547 -10.88
WROCLAW 2,194 0 0.00
SANTORINI 2,102 1,685 24.75
SKIATHOS 1,968 2,029 -3.01
COPENHAGEN 1,680 2,825 -40.53
HURGHADA 1,562 0 0.00
FUNCHAL 1,398 2,536 -44.87
CARDIFF 1,337 1,220 9.59
ABERDEEN 1,094 811 34.90
CORK 1,042 1,733 -39.87
SPLIT 948 252 276.19
STAVANGER 694 741 -6.34
BELFAST CITY 475 0 0.00
SALZBURG 466 464 0.43
VILNIUS 179 0 0.00
NEWQUAY 118 111 6.31
MANCHESTER 100 0 0.00
ISLE OF MAN 52 415 -87.47
LIVERPOOL 36 75 -52.00
GENOA 0 130 -100.00
VENICE 0 132 -100.00
BODRUM 0 3,187 -100.00
NEW YORK (NEWARK) 0 1,247 -100.00
BIRMINGHAM 0 40 -100.00
BRISTOL 0 12,966 -100.00
EXETER 0 3,521 -100.00
GATWICK 0 45 -100.00
NORWICH 0 87 -100.00

NorthEasterner 26th Nov 2017 18:31

Dublin
 
Some changes to Dublin...

Ryanair has dropped the early evening Dublin at 1845 on Sundays effective from S18.

Aer Lingus continuing with into S18 at 1 per day at 1045 and 1220 Sundays.

Dropping the Sunday flight seems bizarre in my opinion, quite busy the majority of times with people commuting back to DUB or NCL for the week ahead.

On the other hand, I do hope Ryanair are continuing their investment at NCL, with maybe 1 or 2 new routes hopefully.

skyman771 26th Nov 2017 18:35

Beatts

That's not true,
What you say may well be, however what I'm saying is that the Airbus engines are de-rated by what is effectively a "quasi" engine management chip so that the actual max power available on "full thrust" is not the same as the potential full power that the particular engine can be set up to produce. This is done because on certain airbus types there is more than sufficient power available for most operating conditions.
It makes sense for EZY to have the performance de-rated slightly, which achieves two basic things, it protects the engine life, and it also makes operation more economic. It obviously doesn't effect safety as all calculations by "touchpad"? or what ever are simply based on the actual engine performance available for the given conditions!

highwideandugly 26th Nov 2017 18:59

Dublin reductions? Competition from Carlisle!

Jamesair 27th Nov 2017 08:09

Thanks SWBKCB........Bristol is 13,635 +9% and Exeter is 3867 +10%

re Dublin..very strange goings on...looks like we will see a sharp drop from the 20,000 + monthly pax levels next year

nighthawk117 27th Nov 2017 10:36


Originally Posted by NorthEasterner (Post 9969872)
Some changes to Dublin...

Ryanair has dropped the early evening Dublin at 1845 on Sundays effective from S18.

Aer Lingus continuing with into S18 at 1 per day at 1045 and 1220 Sundays.

Dropping the Sunday flight seems bizarre in my opinion, quite busy the majority of times with people commuting back to DUB or NCL for the week ahead.

On the other hand, I do hope Ryanair are continuing their investment at NCL, with maybe 1 or 2 new routes hopefully.

Very bizarre indeed. That flight was ideal for weekend breaks. Dropping the morning flight would have made more sense.

HH6702 27th Nov 2017 11:19

Let's hope they have just taken it off line temp

Beatts 27th Nov 2017 12:44

http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/292993/newcastle-airport-set-for-busiest-year-in-a-decade

Good news indeed!

fjencl 28th Nov 2017 15:38

Grounded Darwin Airline
 
Darwin Airline grounded, AOC suspended

Are they still operating for Eastern Airways on the NCL - CWL - NCL - ABZ - NCL route?

SWBKCB 28th Nov 2017 16:11

No - left about 6 weeks ago?

DanAir89 6th Dec 2017 19:52

As nothing new is happening - 45 years ago...
 
Which aircraft was a special visitor to Newcastle Airport on this day 45 years ago? - Chronicle Live

Beatts 6th Dec 2017 23:03

Jet2 Rumour is that there are at least 2 new routes still to be announced for next summer 2018 from each base. Could be good.

Jamesair 7th Dec 2017 15:03

New flight confirmed by Thomas Cook.....Enfidha 1 weekly from 1st May 18 with A321

GrahamK 7th Dec 2017 15:52

That was announced ages ago?

Jamesair 7th Dec 2017 21:25

I thought I had read that before...but apparently just been officially filed along with all their other new routes for S18


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