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boeing_eng 15th Apr 2020 09:32

Apparently all passenger flights will cease on 22/4 but the airport will remain open........

Yahoo!® 15th Apr 2020 10:18

Interesting as Wizz will still let me book Budapest beyond that. Nothing official from the airport just a tweet from someone else

davidjohnson6 15th Apr 2020 10:30

Wizz was allowing people to pay for tickets on Luton-Romania while discussion was taking place on this website (ie well after Wizz would have known) that Romania was about to close its doors to those flights

I would not infer that Wizz flights being on sale means that those flights will take place at the moment

LTNman 15th Apr 2020 11:30

Just means that they take customers money knowing they cannot provide the flights which they then won’t refund.

Yahoo!® 15th Apr 2020 12:03

It could well be true but in these times I am certainly taking information from “a source” with a pinch of salt

LTNman 15th Apr 2020 13:11

Pictures can paint a thousand words. All the retail lighting and much of the terminal lighting has been switched off although the check-in area is fully lit.

https://i.imgur.com/F4nuE8q.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GI2RP3s.jpg

pabely 15th Apr 2020 19:52


Originally Posted by boeing_eng (Post 10750600)
Apparently all passenger flights will cease on 22/4 but the airport will remain open........

Second source saying this, should have a NOTAM soon.

LTNman 15th Apr 2020 20:24

Would a terminal closure be added to a Notam?
Wizz are still selling tickets for after 22/4

pabely 15th Apr 2020 20:35


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10751190)
Would a terminal closure be added to a Notam?

Not in those words but I think yes. Signature, Cargo and aircraft test flights continue as normal. Will result in reduced fire cover.

PAXboy 15th Apr 2020 22:40

A few charters being planned, no information as to where they will go but they talk about the South East.
BBC web news
Although some Brits have applied for the work:
Eastern Europeans to be flown in to pick fruit and veg

Brexit might be out of the headlines but we are still living with it, so I find this very amusing.

LTNman 16th Apr 2020 04:33

The reports I have seen have said Stansted. Not even sure one off charter flights using the terminal are allowed due to the seasonal passenger air transport limit imposed by ACL where batches of slots were allocated to airlines at the start of winter 2019 as part of the passenger capacity constraints to limit passengers to 18 million.

The same is true for the summer where the existing airlines that operated out of Luton were allocated so many passenger seats for the season. As they took them all there was nothing left for anyone else.

AirportPlanner1 16th Apr 2020 06:34

STN may be preferred anyway since I’d imagine a number of these will be heading to Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire, Norfolk, Suffolk and probably also Kent and Essex - key for the earlier crops.

Indeed Paxboy, the social media responses from supporters of Brexit is worth getting in the popcorn for...

pabely 16th Apr 2020 07:03


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10751544)
The reports I have seen have said Stansted. Not even sure one off charter flights using the terminal are allowed due to the seasonal passenger air transport limit imposed by ACL where batches of slots were allocated to airlines at the start of winter 2019 as part of the passenger capacity constraints to limit passengers to 18 million.

The same is true for the summer where the existing airlines that operated out of Luton were allocated so many passenger seats for the season. As they took them all there was nothing left for anyone else.

Can't think the ACL rule book even applies anymore. I would have thought the people who work there will now be sitting at home with nothing to do for S20.

compton3bravo 16th Apr 2020 07:27

Could not agree more Pabely about the slots. I cannot see summer 2021 being a lot better unless we have a vaccine. I for one would not be too keen to jump on an aircraft this summer/autumn even though I love travelling. Back in the UK more or less permanently as I lost my partner suddenly a little while ago in Spain, that is one of the reasons why I have been a little quiet recently as you could imagine I have had more important things to concern myself with.

LTNman 16th Apr 2020 08:29

Sorry for your loss compton3bravo. 2020 is a shocking year for all of us but doesn’t compare when a loved one dies.

ACL have not revised their published documents and seem to be still current but as stated above should now have no meaning for this year. There is also the question of the annual night restrictions on business jets from June 1st for the summer period.

compton3bravo 16th Apr 2020 09:39

Thanks LTNman. I will send a pm if ok.

LTNman 16th Apr 2020 11:17


Originally Posted by compton3bravo (Post 10751770)
Thanks LTNman. I will send a pm if ok.

Please do.

kriskross 16th Apr 2020 11:40

compton3bravo, I think everyone on Pprune will also send their sympathy and condolences.

pabely 16th Apr 2020 12:00


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10751686)
Sorry for your loss compton3bravo. 2020 is a shocking year for all of us but doesn’t compare when a loved one dies.

ACL have not revised their published documents and seem to be still current but as stated above should now have no meaning for this year. There is also the question of the annual night restrictions on business jets from June 1st for the summer period.

Yes sorry for your loss C3B, you have always been a valued contributor to this Forum.
Will there be any restrictions this year for 1st June, can't see anyone busting any noise footprints at the moment unless the C17 comes back after midnight!

Expressflight 16th Apr 2020 13:36

compton3bravo

I would just like to add my condolences to those already expressed for your sad loss.

LTNman 17th Apr 2020 06:44

Just one passenger flight today with all others cancelled as Bulgaria has barred all international travel. Also a couple of flights to North Macedonia are also showing as cancelled.

compton3bravo 17th Apr 2020 10:04

Just to say thank you for the kind words expressed by everybody over the last couple of days. Back to aviation matters, interesting article in Forbes Magazine saying that Wizz are the largest airline in Europe by number of seats on sale last week beating both Ryanair and Lufthansa.

Spanish eyes 17th Apr 2020 10:38

Social distancing, as being practised between the airport operator and the Dart contractor. It seems when people are at work everyone soon forgets about the 2m rule even when there is plenty of room to enforce it whether inside the airport or outside it.
https://i.imgur.com/AHeNG8V.jpg

pabely 17th Apr 2020 10:42

Interesting Budapest > Luton remains one daily all through April on the Wizzair booking engine but goes back to 5 daily from 1st May, is LLA closing to pax next Wednesday, havn't seen any NOTAM?
Sofia back on 26th April as a single rotation then 3 daily also from 1st May!

LTNman 17th Apr 2020 11:05

The terminal is still open 24/7 for a single departure leaving at 20:35. This from the airport operator in their Covid 19 Q&A section

Q/ Are flights still operating?
A/ Air transport links are considered a key service under current Government guidance, which we continue to follow in full.

With an answer like that how can they shut the terminal or maybe that answer was given a month ago when the terminal was busier. It will be interesting if they do close the terminal to understand the reasons why when this flight is considered a key service.

boeing_eng 17th Apr 2020 11:21

I think you'll find the downgrading of fire cover will be one of the main reasons for the stopping of passenger flights.......

LTNman 17th Apr 2020 11:54

With the runway closed on May 21st for a paint job to change the markings to 07/25, which has been in the Notam for weeks, I would have expected a change in fire cover to have been included in a Notam when known if that event was just days away.

boeing_eng 17th Apr 2020 13:10

Terminal closure now on Notams......Until May 1st

A1457/20 NOTAMN Q) EGTT/QFALT/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5152N00022W005 A) EGGW B) 2004222300 C) 2005010500 E) COVID-19: INFORMATION PASSENGER TERMINAL CLOSURE, NO PASSENGER OPERATIONS AND NO NON-EMERGENCY DIVERSIONS CREATED: 17 Apr 2020 12:55:00 SOURCE: EUECYIYN

LTNman 17th Apr 2020 13:30


Q/ Are flights still operating?
A/ Air transport links are considered a key service under current Government guidance, which we continue to follow in full.
Just shows what BS they talk

Falcon666 17th Apr 2020 15:50


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10753176)
Just shows what BS they talk

There is nothing incorrect with their answer.

Don’t forget the Cargo flights - are they still operating or all transferred elsewhere?


LTNman 17th Apr 2020 17:18

They were talking about passenger flights as per this heading


We have put together a list of frequently ask questions below about the impact of Coronavirus on your travel plans and what we're doing to continue to provide a smooth journey through the airport.

pabely 17th Apr 2020 17:36


Originally Posted by Falcon666 (Post 10753352)
Don’t forget the Cargo flights - are they still operating or all transferred elsewhere?

I certainly haven't seen a DHL flight for a while, have they all moved to LHR?


LTNman 17th Apr 2020 17:57

Work on the Dart has been suspended due to social distancing issues after workers were caught in a sting after ignoring all the rules.

pabely 17th Apr 2020 18:43


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10753454)
Work on the Dart has been suspended due to social distancing issues after workers were caught in a sting after ignoring all the rules.

Spanish eyes Not involved!? 🤔

Captain_Caveman 17th Apr 2020 18:58


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10753436)
I certainly haven't seen a DHL flight for a while, have they all moved to LHR?

a DHL A300 took off yesterday afternoon headed for MXP so definitely still operating.

pabely 18th Apr 2020 09:14


Originally Posted by Captain_Caveman (Post 10753508)
a DHL A300 took off yesterday afternoon headed for MXP so definitely still operating.

And one to AMS this morning

Captain_Caveman 18th Apr 2020 10:18


Originally Posted by Spanish eyes (Post 10753011)
Social distancing, as being practised between the airport operator and the Dart contractor. It seems when people are at work everyone soon forgets about the 2m rule even when there is plenty of room to enforce it whether inside the airport or outside it.
https://i.imgur.com/AHeNG8V.jpg

how do you know that these two people are not a couple or living in the same house ? You don’t ! Hundreds and hundreds of people who normally work in or around the airport fall into this category.

pabely 18th Apr 2020 10:40

Well done Luton Staff
 
https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/l...harities-22466

Spanish eyes 18th Apr 2020 11:03


Originally Posted by Captain_Caveman (Post 10754183)
how do you know that these two people are not a couple or living in the same house ? You don’t ! Hundreds and hundreds of people who normally work in or around the airport fall into this category.

I pointed out the 2m rule as I walked past and they moved away from each other so I am guessing they were not. They were not the only ones, the terminal was empty yet I saw a couple of security staff walking side be side but then they could have been a same sex couple.

The96er 18th Apr 2020 16:55


Originally Posted by Spanish eyes (Post 10754254)
I pointed out the 2m rule as I walked past and they moved away from each other so I am guessing they were not. They were not the only ones, the terminal was empty yet I saw a couple of security staff walking side be side but then they could have been a same sex couple.

Spanish eyes, are you a Government appointed social distance Police enforcer ?. If you believe it's your duty to point out any <2m infringment you come accross, then you're going to be extremely exhausted by the end of the day, especially at an Airport, which by their nature, along with any other transport medium, will be, on the whole, impossible to enact/enforce.

One assumes the persons in the picture gave you consent to post their pic too ?


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