Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10730778)
The other massive challenge for LTN perhaps above other London airports is Brexit, if the Government continue on their kamikaze course. High unemployment from corona will drastically reduce incoming migration and if greater migrants from the last 15 years head back than anticipated either because of the economy or they’re made unwelcome that will further compromise the massive Wizz operation even further. That is assuming Wizz like many other airlines can weather a long shutdown.
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Interesting, I would say more shocking!
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking
(Post 10730786)
'Kamikaze course'. An interesting sweeping assertion.
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking
(Post 10730786)
'Kamikaze course'. An interesting sweeping assertion.
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10730923)
Surely not participating in the purchasing of ventilators and claiming not to have seen the e-mail despite the Health Secretary publicly referring to it the week before is the very definition of kamikaze. As is refusing to take part in pandemic early monitoring even though other non-EU nations do so.
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Could I very gently suggest that Brexit type things be discussed on a separate thread and that this thread be used just for Luton ?
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10730942)
Could I very gently suggest that Brexit type things be discussed on a separate thread and that this thread be used just for Luton ?
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking
(Post 10730934)
And what has that to do with 52% of the nation voting for Brexit? The biggest democratic vote in the country's history.
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I know the Wizzair AM 'rush' has been down to just 5 flights for a while now and today it dropped to 3 but did any actually arrive today?
Edit, just found them on FR24 over Germany heading our way. |
I have noticed that Easyjet have run no rescue flights through Luton. Also since last week National Express services no longer operate or call into the airport.
Rumours going around security that Wizz will be pulling their last flights out of Luton soon. I have been going for walks over the fields by the airport over the last few days. Remarkable as there is no man made noise, just bird song disturbing the peace. A high price is being paid for all that silence though. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10731950)
I have been going for walks over the fields by the airport over the last few days. Remarkable as there is no man made noise, just bird song disturbing the peace. A high price is being paid for all that silence though. One evening mid week the only aircraft I saw or heard was an outbound BA A380 - the surrounding silence allowed the Trents to be heard in full, even at height. But, as you say, at a price. |
Out for an hour and a half today and didn’t see or hear any airport activity apart from security patrolling the fence. Must be as quiet now as it was in the 60’s.
Wonder if the FBO’s are still open 24/7? Can’t see the terminal remaining 24/7 for long. |
Signature only using T1 now.
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Thought the stopped using T2 when their new FBO opened. Certainly never seen any S Class cars up there for a good couple of years.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10732427)
Thought the stopped using T2 when their new FBO opened. Certainly never seen any S Class cars up there for a good couple of years.
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Originally Posted by G-ARZG
(Post 10732436)
I believe SFS T2 is (was) only used for larger 'airliner' type loads
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It was the Ocean Sky terminal. What happened to them at Luton? The main apron for T2 was used for Signature parking but is empty now.
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Ocean Sky got bought by Signature. With them appearing not be using stands 80/81 perhaps we might see more EZY planes arrive on those? Don't know if they are leased stands or dedicated to the FBO.
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Passenger figures down 4% for February compared to last February. Overall still sitting at 18,223,000 for rolling 12 months.
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Originally Posted by pabely
(Post 10734526)
Ocean Sky got bought by Signature. With them appearing not be using stands 80/81 perhaps we might see more EZY planes arrive on those? Don't know if they are leased stands or dedicated to the FBO.
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If I am not mistaken, Luton is today London's second busiest airport as far as scheduled flights are concerned (LGW 4, SEN 2, STN 2, LCY 0).
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Originally Posted by virginblue
(Post 10734571)
If I am not mistaken, Luton is today London's second busiest airport as far as scheduled flights are concerned (LGW 4, SEN 2, STN 2, LCY 0).
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Sure. That's what I meant.
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Interesting Air Albania due today. Take their citizens home?
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ZA BEL just landed
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Originally Posted by pabely
(Post 10735319)
Interesting Air Albania due today. Take their citizens home?
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Construction update
A short walk from home and daily exercise has taking me today to the fields by the airport for this construction update. The area around the fire training ground is being raised. The fire training ground will move south of the runway under expansion plans.
https://i.imgur.com/bhg5GRz.jpg Soil for the new taxiway, which is part of the old planning permission for 18 million passengers. Airport expansion plans would require the land being raised by up to 22m which is above the height of the trees. The field seen would become an apron. LLAL states they need to open a quarry and move 4 million cubic metres of earth that would require 400,000 round trips. https://i.imgur.com/yzEz22I.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8JsJKwe.jpg Maintenance and winding gear area. Photo by time lapse and taken by the construction company. https://i.imgur.com/4xh2EAS.jpg Taken a few weeks ago this is the first winding gear for the dart train https://i.imgur.com/mmlnfqL.jpg |
Two RAF Statesman in yesterday, not as exciting as the C17s produced on social media at other SE airports.
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Harrods closed its FBO at both Luton and Stansted last week
Harrods Aviation is taking “the unprecedented and regrettable decision to temporarily close its FBO and maintenance facilities at its London Luton and London Stansted bases” in response to the UK government’s Covid-19 guidelines. Its two locations will close this Friday—effective at 6 p.m. local time at Stansted and 11:59 p.m. local time at Luton—through at least April 17, when Harrods said it will review the situation. “This is clearly a very serious global situation, and as an organization, we felt the right action to take was to close our operations at both bases,” said Harrods Aviation managing director Paul Norton. “Using the philosophy of people before profit, the safety and well-being of our staff, our customers, and the wider community becomes our primary focus. This decision has, of course, not been taken lightly. We believe our customers will understand and appreciate the seriousness of the situation and our positive response to it.” Earlier this month, the company announced an investment in new services and equipment at its FBOs in response to rising customer demand. They included electric car charging points at its Luton facility and a VIP private ambulift at Stansted. |
Originally Posted by pabely
(Post 10737136)
Two RAF Statesman in yesterday, not as exciting as the C17s produced on social media at other SE airports.
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Nor had I so I had to look it up. Disappointed it was what I would call a 146.
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I thought that would make a few of your think! 😉
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[QUOTE][Harrods closed its FBO at both Luton and Stansted last week/QUOTE]
I think Signsture down to 09:00 to 19:00 only. Are any London FBOs still 24/7 ? |
never heard of the 146 referred to as a Statesman before! |
Originally Posted by Wycombe
(Post 10737392)
BAE used the name to market VIP versions of the a/c IIRC.
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With travel bans and passengers general reluctance to travel killing off air travel, Luton's remaining routes are often still full or have fares out of Luton close to £400 for a single journey indicating strong demand. This on services using aircraft including A321's with up to 3 departures a day. Flights into the UK are cheaper but there is still plenty of demand.
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Wizzair are still running flights from LGW, BHX & LPL, what is your point? They go into isolation in their home countries. Don't know who is going to bring in the Harvests this year!
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I expected demand to drop off but it is being maintained meaning I doubt Luton will find itself with no passenger services, which will keep the terminal ticking over.
Wizz seem to have the attitude to run what routes they can which must be bringing in high profits on those routes as they have no competition. |
Remember that many passengers will be travelling for Easter to see family which actually makes a complete mockery of government advice not to see family members as it tries to contain the Coronavirus. Walking through arrivals into landside this morning I could see no evidence of social distancing as family members who clearly had not seen each other for a long while greeted each other with kisses and cuddles.
Who knows how many people will now leave Britain with this virus as I believe infection rates are far higher here than in their home countries. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10738650)
I expected demand to drop off but it is being maintained meaning I doubt Luton will find itself with no passenger services, which will keep the terminal ticking over.
Wizz seem to have the attitude to run what routes they can which must be bringing in high profits on those routes as they have no competition. |
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