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Originally Posted by ClearLand08
(Post 10219910)
I grudgingly use Addison Lee for the convenience, particularly if my flight is late and I just want to get home. £14 for a c.7 min journey within Luton is ridiculous though. I asked earlier this year about the high prices and they told me point blank that "the airport set the prices we have to charge". I didn't believe them, but is there any truth to this?
As for cars touting for business, if they are Luton Hackney cabs then they can pick up but not use any ranks and fares would be metered. Private hire cars must be pre-booked by you directly through their office (not the driver), get in one without doing this and you will be uninsured. Local mini-cab firms would rather not touch the airport for short run pick up/drop off. Too much hassle and time spent getting in and out. Cheapest (and often quickest) way of avoiding AL and airport charges is to spend less than the 3 quid fee on a bus into town and grab a mini-cab there. |
Originally Posted by WilliumMate
(Post 10219934)
Rather than the airport set the charges AL will be paying LLA a shed load for the concession. I believe 30% of the fare goes to AL. One mini-cab driver I know returned his keys to go back to a local firm as he had to take £1000 in fares gross per week to clear £320 net. He explained it as: 30% to AL = £700. Rent of car £200, fuel £150 and a few misc items. Being self-employed the 320 is before any NI and tax liabilities.
As for cars touting for business, if they are Luton Hackney cabs then they can pick up but not use any ranks and fares would be metered. Private hire cars must be pre-booked by you directly through their office (not the driver), get in one without doing this and you will be uninsured. Local mini-cab firms would rather not touch the airport for short run pick up/drop off. Too much hassle and time spent getting in and out. Cheapest (and often quickest) way of avoiding AL and airport charges is to spend less than the 3 quid fee on a bus into town and grab a mini-cab there. |
Badly worded. Taking away 30% of 1000 leaves 700, then the other deductions after that.
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July Pax figures 1.67 Mil up 3.1%
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Moving towards that 18M yearly figure
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Originally Posted by WilliumMate
(Post 10220036)
Badly worded. Taking away 30% of 1000 leaves 700, then the other deductions after that.
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A new planning statement has been placed on the towns planning application portal.
The statement which runs to 19 pages includes the reasoning why the canopy footprint was shrunk to next to nothing. The main purpose of the canopy is to provide shelter for passengers queuing for buses in the CTA. During design development of the forecourt and canopy, it became apparent that the originally proposed canopy was at a height which would not provide cover from rain in windy conditions. A revised design has developed to deliver a lower canopy which will provide better shelter from the rain. Cover is provided for passengers entering and exiting the terminal through two separate awning canopies, and a third canopy is provided for passengers walking to, and queueing for, Luton Airport Parkway transfer buses. The materials used in the construction of the canopy shall be white PVC coated tensile transparent fabric membrane. The two aprons around the former flying club are now going to be left for business aviation 3.6 North Stands The planning application included indicative drawings for the North Stands. The demand for general aviation remains high at the airport, and it was decided during design development that this space was best used for this purpose, particularly given the orientation of access and egress from the space. As an added benefit, more separation space has been provided between retained building 104 and operational areas. Hanger 55 will be demolished as per the original plans, in due course. The changes proposed are restricted to siting changes to improve circulation and separation distances. Drawing number 40153-01 shows the plan details. 3.5 Central Search Area The originally permitted scheme increased the number of security lanes from twelve to twenty in the new central search area. Since that time, LLAOL has completed research which has demonstrated 16 lanes, using the latest generation of automatic tray return systems (TRS), are required. All changes are internal. Drawing numbers 40153-11 and 40153-12 show the plan details. LLAOL will increase the number of security lanes from twelve to fourteen in 2018, earlier than originally planned, using manual tray return systems, and then increase capacity using the latest generation of TRS as dictated by passenger number demands. The overall size of the Central Search Area is not reduced from the original plan. The proposed change provides the further benefits of creating a more open space, for an improved passenger experience. The new total floors space of the terminal is 89,242m2 Lots of other stuff mentioned that I won't go into here but it is available online to download. Images showing hints of the second multistory and the station. https://i.imgur.com/gQUNegh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/9lgLi7u.jpg |
Love that the top picture shows the fairground style fast food outlets still in place, will they become a permanent fixture I wonder. On a different note , I noticed in the planning application for the MPT that they are going to construct the Gateway Bridge on land between the Ibis budget hotel and the main roundabout ( land currently used for car storage) before transportation to site. The traffic management plan is a interesting read in itself!! The Bridge Is due to be built starting Jan 2019 with anticipated finish of Oct 2019. Work should start on preparing the build area and a seperate parking area in Proctor Way in September. |
Originally Posted by WilliumMate
(Post 10219934)
Rather than the airport set the charges AL will be paying LLA a shed load for the concession. I believe 30% of the fare goes to AL. One mini-cab driver I know returned his keys to go back to a local firm as he had to take £1000 in fares gross per week to clear £320 net. He explained it as: 30% to AL = £700. Rent of car £200, fuel £150 and a few misc items. Being self-employed the 320 is before any NI and tax liabilities.
As for cars touting for business, if they are Luton Hackney cabs then they can pick up but not use any ranks and fares would be metered. Private hire cars must be pre-booked by you directly through their office (not the driver), get in one without doing this and you will be uninsured. Local mini-cab firms would rather not touch the airport for short run pick up/drop off. Too much hassle and time spent getting in and out. Cheapest (and often quickest) way of avoiding AL and airport charges is to spend less than the 3 quid fee on a bus into town and grab a mini-cab there. |
Construction update
Very slowly the routes to the new entrances are opening up but there is still months of work until the whole area around the bus station is complete.
https://i.imgur.com/Ih30NgN.jpg A more direct route from the shuttle bus has been opened. In between the two slopes stairs are being installed made from what looks like granite. https://i.imgur.com/qIUexyC.jpg Also making slow progress is the slatted ceiling, which is now going in. The photo shows the only section to be so far completed since the infill opened in April. The photo is taken from the existing terminal with the check-in desks behind the photo. In the distance can be seen the new build. https://i.imgur.com/uoLJjzW.jpg The site of the 2nd multi story is being covered in hardcore. https://i.imgur.com/muIUTqW.jpg Despite the terminal station being below ground the former drop off area is also being covered in hardcore with the level being gradually raised by around 1 metre. At some point most of it will all have to be dug out again. https://i.imgur.com/eBwMcmN.jpg Finally the update would not be complete without a quick look at the new DART Parkway station interchange. As can be seen this site is also being rolled and raised with hardcore. https://i.imgur.com/lcv6nHQ.jpg As can be seen the photos are dominated by hardcore but there is nothing too much to excite. |
It’s very frustrating that when they built the East apron pier they did not consult with ATC who would have strongly suggested making the apron a lot wider allowing for a north and south lane so the aircraft could be pushed back and taxi in simultaneously, the way that Stansted aprons operate efficiently. Several times every day aircraft are left waiting in a queue as they all, invariably, want to arrive and depart from that apron at the same time. |
Think it was due to not wanting to shrink the CTA, which already has limited space and also now has to fit in a new station. When the temporary drop off zone is moved to the new multi-storey I would expect to see this area to eventually become another apron with around 4 nose in stands as the consultation has already hinted that another apron could be squeezed in together with a modest increase to the terminal capacity to bring the total to 21 million as an interim measure. |
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Wizz discontinues sales on Ohrid-LTN from 24.10.
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Looks like the subsidies have finished and with poor loads time to try something else.
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
(Post 10222447)
Looks like the subsidies have finished and with poor loads time to try something else.
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Best Airport in London!
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£275.55 fare to North America? No comment! |
Originally Posted by jdcg
(Post 10222469)
Is this not a seasonal route anyway? Flights have always been packed when I or other family members have flown there, admittedly only 4 flights, but prices weren't that low either
I would urge urge anyone to use it while they have the chance, a beautiful area, hospitable people and incredibly cheap |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10223445)
£275.55 fare to North America? No comment! |
Obviously the North American fare must be with easy/Wizz to Iceland and then onwards with another carrier.
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10223560)
I suggested this may happen, a lot of Albanians used it but of course Wizz now go directly to Tirana. I would urge urge anyone to use it while they have the chance, a beautiful area, hospitable people and incredibly cheap |
Parking question: Pre-booked in the Mid-park and went to print my confirmation, just in case. Realised that I had booked for 24 hours less than the journey. Tried to extend the booking (and pay) but the LLA site said that there was no space. I thought this strange, so used a different browser and blocked cookies to try a booking for the dates I actually need. No surprise that the space was available for the whole trip.
So, when I overstay by 24 hours, can I just pay the surcharge at the barrier? Will the system prevent me leaving? |
Paying on the day for an extra 24 hours is a dear option. I would contact the phone number below to modify or cancel and start again. |
Seems LLAL are looking at options to add another 3 million passengers to the existing terminal as an interim measure taking the total capacity to 21 million.
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21 million
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10225674)
Seems LLAL are looking at options to add another 3 million passengers to the existing terminal as an interim measure taking the total capacity to 21 million.
Wizz and others it might be easily achievable. |
The airport has a planning limit of 18 million so will need a planning application to allow 21 million. Luton is in the unique position that its local council will fully support any expansion plans. Talk of another apron and changes to the terminal again with a bit of mini infilling on a much smaller scale. Maybe all the seating will be removed this time and will operate like Thamelink trains in the rush hour with standing room only?
The likely location for another apron would be the existing temporary drop off area with nose in stands facing the multistory. The only uncertainty is will if be connected to pier B via another pier. If it is will that pier then be extended to the south stands? Seems a logical thing to do but it would be a long walk. |
I am not sure if it has already been mentioned but it looks like the easy route to Essoura in Morocco finishes at the the end of October. Also been looking at three Wizz routes - Athens, Bari and Tirana. The load factors for July look like nearly 100 per cent, but of course the yield is another matter but looking at some of the prices quoted especially from Tirana if I was a Wizz executive I would be highly delighted.
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
(Post 10226125)
I am not sure if it has already been mentioned but it looks like the easy route to Essoura in Morocco finishes at the the end of October. Also been looking at three Wizz routes - Athens, Bari and Tirana. The load factors for July look like nearly 100 per cent, but of course the yield is another matter but looking at some of the prices quoted especially from Tirana if I was a Wizz executive I would be highly delighted.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10225670)
Paying on the day for an extra 24 hours is a dear option. I would contact the phone number below to modify or cancel and start again.
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
(Post 10226125)
Also been looking at three Wizz routes - Athens, Bari and Tirana. The load factors for July look like nearly 100 per cent, but of course the yield is another matter but looking at some of the prices quoted especially from Tirana if I was a Wizz executive I would be highly delighted.
Albania is quite behind on developing its tourist infrastructure (and has a poor image in the UK, which having been there isn’t justified), really its a market and route that should see growth for some time to come. |
Interesting, apparently Luton will handle 50m+ passengers according to consultation relating to expansion with the local community.
After I had fallen off the chair laughing, I realised that the folk at the Town Hall are serious! I could list all the reasons that I can think of why it will not happen, but a parallel runway is 'on the cards'! Maybe August 19th is the new April 1st! |
You well laugh Buster but who would have thought just a few years ago the airport would be handling the passengers it is now, I for one
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Luton Borough Council as ultimate owner of the airport has a strong interest in seeing the airport grow but also a conflict of interest with regards to having to sometimes reject planning applications when locals object. Does 50m pax become an airport of national rather than local importance, and should planning decisions be 'called in' and taken by Westminster ?
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The consultation is for passenger figures of between 36 and 38 million so don't know where this 50 million has come from. The project even at those levels is considered of national importance and the council has already conceded that it will be decided by government and not them as they would approve anything related to their airport.
This has not stopped the council from putting in a planning application to themselves for the terminal dual carriageway that was meant to serve a business park. Always wondered why a business park needed a dual carriageway but for years the council has had a secret hidden agenda that they didn't want the locals to know about. So much for open and honest local government as even this year they were denying they had plans for a second terminal. |
New EZY flights: 2pw to Gibraltar (former Monarch route) and 4pw to Krakow (previously served by EZY) this winter. Not sure whether I've seen these mentioned on this thread.
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Been out for a good month now. I am booked on the then last flight back which is the end of March. Don't know if the service is now available from April. As it was the last flight the fare was only £17
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Ryanair to add another 2 Luton based aircraft to Luton bringing the total to 6 so it looks like they have grabbed the 2 stands that will be freed up when the 2 airside contractors compounds are removed.
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It will be interesting to see whether they do something interesting and add some new routes and destinations as they have at SEN, or use them to undermine EZY routes or shift some stuff away from STN. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10228684)
.....but for years the council has had a secret hidden agenda that they didn't want the locals to know about. So much for open and honest local government as even this year they were denying they had plans for a second terminal.
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