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22/04 31st May 2018 21:13

Really one for nostalgia perhaps but can anyone tell me how the site came to be used for landfill - was it a natural or artificial (gravel extraction etc.) hole in the ground. When did it cease to be used. I think I remember it being active during my early airport visits ( 67/68).

LTNman 31st May 2018 23:02

Just a bit of a dip in the ground I believe. Nothing on old maps to suggest it had a former life. Think it closed in the late 70’s. Some of the bore holes will be 65m deep although I don’t think the tip goes down that far.

LTNman 1st Jun 2018 05:21


Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street (Post 10161454)
LTNman, I cannot foresee the South of the airfield being used for terminal passenger usage. Private jets and maintenance yes. Hence why I believe you are wrong. In your own words the official plans have not been disclosed yet, well certainly not into the public domain. You appear to know more than anyone else and I still remember you putting me down when I said LTN will be and remain the UK’s 5th airport. You scoffed at me. Well looks like I was right all those years ago! Maybe I might be right with regards to the eastern side of the airfield being it’s future after all many of you in here state Hertfordshire will not allow their land to be used in the airports growth.

I heard what you said but was told at the time by a senior planning officer that aprons and council tips don’t mix as there would be movement but buildings would not be a problem. Constructor says the issue can be overcome so I have no idea whether I was deliberately mislead or he was ill informed but construction costs would properly be higher which would be another factor also land to the north is again restricted in size due to existing housing





Constructor 1st Jun 2018 07:28

To illustrate my statement google 'Madiera Airport Runway Extention. When you see the pictures substitute landfill for fresh air.
I have worked on several projects involving Landfill.

ClearLand08 1st Jun 2018 07:42

8th and final (for now?) based Wizzair aircraft now operating from Luton.

nohold 1st Jun 2018 21:37

I hear that the Luton runway is 'closed' from 06:00 to 07:00 local from June 2nd until September 30th 2018.

LTNman 1st Jun 2018 22:20

Not closed but a zero inbound flow rate. Departures are not affected, not sure why, maybe it is so departures are not impeded by landing traffic so stopping Wizz turning up early but will again have a knock on issue for biz jets

dvc 1st Jun 2018 22:23


Originally Posted by nohold (Post 10162787)
I hear that the Luton runway is 'closed' from 06:00 to 07:00 local from June 2nd until September 30th 2018.

Only for inbound flights.

A0917/18 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFALT/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5152N00022W005
A) EGGW B) 1806010500 C) 1809010600
D) 0500-0600
E) ZERO INBOUND FLOW RATE APPLIED

nohold 1st Jun 2018 22:36

Thanks chaps!

LTNman 2nd Jun 2018 06:59


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10162817)
Not closed but a zero inbound flow rate. Departures are not affected, not sure why, maybe it is so departures are not impeded by landing traffic so stopping Wizz turning up early but will again have a knock on issue for biz jets

I have had another think about this. The restriction is more to do with the early shoulder period noise restriction which is between 06:00 and 07:00 as there is a limit of 7,000 movements per year or 19.2 per day for that hour.

LTNman 2nd Jun 2018 07:38

Construction update
 
The first entrance to open of the terminal extension has been closed to allow the canopy and a staircase to be added. Walk to the left of the wall to use the stairs or to the right of the wall to use the slope.
https://i.imgur.com/GBGJ4Qg.jpg

Luton's state of the art signature canopy made from stretched canvas.
https://i.imgur.com/AgfLXgE.jpg

Work carries on with the removal of the walkway to what was the short term car park that was open for just over a year.
https://i.imgur.com/CeWbuoC.jpg

If anyone needs a demonstration of the decline of business jets at Luton here are some sobering photos. Not only was the pond empty of any biz jets due to Signature losing control of that apron to the airport but only 2 biz jets were parked in the NW corner and on the apron by the former flying club there were just 3 aircraft parked. Harrods seemed half empty as well no doubt due to the rumoured increase in handling charges by both FBO's to maybe compensate for the loss of business.

The pond
https://i.imgur.com/J3M1WIt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EZgAfet.jpg

South stands
https://i.imgur.com/6jQPpYk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FTeXSqm.jpg

NW corner
https://i.imgur.com/0Ks6vKP.jpg

Total bizjets today parked on these 3 aprons were just 2 aircraft.

Expressflight 2nd Jun 2018 08:28


Originally Posted by dvc (Post 10162818)
Only for inbound flights.

A0917/18 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFALT/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5152N00022W005
A) EGGW B) 1806010500 C) 1809010600
D) 0500-0600
E) ZERO INBOUND FLOW RATE APPLIED

When this restriction was announced in March there was another saying "No 'non-emergency' diverted flights will be accepted 0600-2159 1st June-30th September" (see link provided on post #898). That isn't currently shown by NOTAM so I wondered if that is actually being applied.

pabely 2nd Jun 2018 12:50


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 10163080)
When this restriction was announced in March there was another saying "No 'non-emergency' diverted flights will be accepted 0600-2159 1st June-30th September" (see link provided on post #898). That isn't currently shown by NOTAM so I wondered if that is actually being applied.

I was told overnight parking will be available on taxiway extension past fire station so that might cover such if run up bay full as well, as it sometimes is!

forest 2nd Jun 2018 14:23

https://i.imgur.com/GBGJ4Qg.jpg

The black part of the wall denotes the level of the surface so they must be raising the level by some bit to make the slope up to the terminal.
And i assume there will be some sort of barrier on top of the wall

compton3bravo 3rd Jun 2018 06:43

It will be interesting to see if the biz movements pick up in the middle of June what with the start of the World Cup, Ascot and Wimbledon towards the end of the month. Also there will have to be some serious head scratching at all the south east airport's regarding the Euros in 2020 with Wembley hosting matches on the 14, 19 and 23 June. Last 16 game on the 27 June, two semi-finals on 7 and 8 July and the final on 12 July with of course Ascot and Wimbledon also been staged. Forward planning?

LTNman 3rd Jun 2018 07:21

Those with long memories will remember Luton when it had a selection of light aircraft based at the airport by the flying club and when Fields of Heathrow handled business jets.

The signs are there that Luton has passed its peak and will be on a slow decline just like the airports light aircraft were until one day they were no more.

Basically Luton is now a no go area for biz jets from midnight until 07:00 and even after that time I doubt they would find many slots until after the morning rush.

Falcon666 5th Jun 2018 05:52

Zero inbound flow rate.

So has something changed?

The first Wizz arrival this morning was in at 6.48 and the NOTAM appears to have disappeared.

Ironically yesterday the first wave of departures seemed to get away more efficiently with minimal delays as a result of the later arriving Wizz a/c
Maybe having the zero inbound flow rate wasn't such a bad thing?

LGS6753 5th Jun 2018 09:04

The first wave of Wizz arrivals has reduced slightly, from around 14/16 to 12/14, now that they have aircraft night-stopping. There are seven or eight Wizz night-stoppers, but some depart after 0830.

LTNman 5th Jun 2018 10:35

The NOTAM has indeed disappeared. Still the average 19.2 movements per day between 06:00- to 07:00 will remain. Was the overnight restrictions ever NOTAMed? Maybe that type of restriction wouldn't be the subject of a NOTAM?

Buster the Bear 5th Jun 2018 13:07

Blimey! Rumours that the multi storey needs to be demolished! Can't be true, can it?


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