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Buster the Bear 18th Jun 2018 17:26

Ski flights and a good use for the airframes during the quieter winter months.

compton3bravo 18th Jun 2018 17:34

Tromso, Verona and Greonble are ski destinations so I would think that they would be winter routes only. As regards Eilat is mainly a winter destination also but I read a little time ago that the tourist board were giving a discount for anybody operating the route.
If you look at a map of Eastern Europe there are still quite a number of destinations still not served from the UK.

Falcon666 18th Jun 2018 17:46

With Eilat being picked up by Wizz , I think that only leaves GIB from the ex Monarch flight schedule.
Maybe Easy will pick up that route in S19.
i wonder why LTN doesn't have a good German route network, only Dortmund and Munich now after Hamburg was dropped.
Surely opportunities exist at FRA, CGN , DUS and others if slots are available?

FRatSTN 18th Jun 2018 18:02


Originally Posted by Falcon666 (Post 10176056)
i wonder why LTN doesn't have a good German route network, only Dortmund and Munich now after Hamburg was dropped.

...and Berlin-SXF too of course

LTNman 18th Jun 2018 19:48


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10175973)
Or to put it another way, Luton to Eastern Europe is close to saturation ?

I doubt it, more and more elderly parents and grandparents are now joining their children and grandchildren for a new life. Also Romania is becoming the new Poland so there is plenty of growth there to come.

So all the retail outlets are now open landside and it does sort of actually look like this apart from the ceiling where the airport has excelled itself this time. In this artists impression the vaulted ceiling that was by the original entrances and was a sort of feature for the airport had a series of feature circles hanging down from the roof over the route to departures as seen in this artists impression. I was actually quite looking forward to it but metalwork and heating ducting now criss-cross the void at low level which is strange as this bit of the terminal has underground heating. Seems that the airport ran out of black spray paint as the terminal extension pipework, ducting and electrics are all still in stand out silver. The slotted ceiling slats have so far have failed to materialize apart from what was put in before the extension opened but the gap is so wide that they might as well not be there as they hide nothing.

https://i.imgur.com/4isik6o.jpg

inOban 18th Jun 2018 20:17

I doubt that Tromsų is a ski destination unless you enjoy skiing in the dark. Isn't it North of the Arctic Circle? I suspect the route is aimed at winter breaks and retail therapy for the residents.

WilliumMate 18th Jun 2018 20:19

Northern Lights peepers maybe. Tromso is a nice place (well it was in 1981) but take cash, lots.

Manx 19th Jun 2018 18:25


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10176127)
I doubt it, more and more elderly parents and grandparents are now joining their children and grandchildren for a new life. Also Romania is becoming the new Poland so there is plenty of growth there to come.

I find your photos and news of Luton to be quite interesting. Your need to keep quoting bloke-down-the-pub "facts" about eastern europeans really devalues your posts.

DC3 Dave 20th Jun 2018 07:09


Originally Posted by Manx (Post 10176854)
I find your photos and news of Luton to be quite interesting. Your need to keep quoting bloke-down-the-pub "facts" about eastern europeans really devalues your posts.

Luton airport stands for everything that's great about immigration and everything that's bad. I'm sure we're all interested in your view of the facts providing you don't become all PC and prissy over opinions others may hold.

LTNman 20th Jun 2018 15:15


Originally Posted by Manx (Post 10176854)
I find your photos and news of Luton to be quite interesting. Your need to keep quoting bloke-down-the-pub "facts" about eastern europeans really devalues your posts.

I don't judge but just observe. If that has offended you then too bad so I suggest you block my posts.

I am still watching in amazement as drivers park up on the yellow hatch markings in the new drop off area oblivious to the fact that no one can get past them without at least doing a 3 point turn. The airport is missing out on a major money making scheme and would be more profitable than the camera car monitoring the bus stop for stopping cars from 200 metres away outside the Holiday Inn.

LTNman 20th Jun 2018 16:13

So as we are in the third week of June so it is worth looking again at the start dates for various parts of the DART project.

End of March work on the running line was have meant to have started which is a 87 week project
Last month work should have started on Parkway station which is a 60 week project.
The viaduct ( 59 weeks)
Gateway bridge over the A1089 (53 weeks)
Building a temporary highway for the cut and cover tunnel.(47 weeks)
June should have seen work start on diverting taxiway Alpha ( 97 weeks)

So far nothing apart from a few red pegs and a few 1m deep random digs.

It seems a familiar story when it comes to the airports building projects. They all start late, initially the work is done just by one man and his dog. Then there is a mad rush and then the work is finished way behind schedule.

2021? unlikely.

https://i.imgur.com/Zqdrd5R.jpg

Lee Baker Street 20th Jun 2018 16:38

Not PC here!
 
LTNman, whilst I am sure your a nice bloke the fact remains you are equally a very negative person! Being a racist is ok as long as you keep it to yourself! As someone who on a daily basis monitors the development of the new rail link from my departing train at Parkway to the airport CTA area- there is in fact on-going works being carried out!

asdf1234 20th Jun 2018 17:36


Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street (Post 10177547)
LTNman, whilst I am sure your a nice bloke the fact remains you are equally a very negative person! Being a racist is ok as long as you keep it to yourself! As someone who on a daily basis monitors the development of the new rail link from my departing train at Parkway to the airport CTA area- there is in fact on-going works being carried out!

I stop by here once in a while as every time I use Luton I despair at the transport facilities and I like to see what others are saying about the airport. The departure lounge improvements are welcome and I still find immigration on the way out very quick for UK passport holders as most of the arrivals don't have EU passports and queue in the "other" lane.

However I'm posting today to point out that whilst racism in private is certainly not ok, whether you keep it to yourself or promote it openly, LTNman's post was simply not racist.

Best everyone keeps on topic, and all you snowflakes offended by real life observations - avert your eyes from now on.

Planespeaking 20th Jun 2018 17:48


Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street (Post 10177547)
LTNman, whilst I am sure your a nice bloke the fact remains you are equally a very negative person! Being a racist is ok as long as you keep it to yourself! As someone who on a daily basis monitors the development of the new rail link from my departing train at Parkway to the airport CTA area- there is in fact on-going works being carried out!



I have had my differences with LTNman over the years about his sometimes negative posts about SEN, but they were always measured and thought through. But NEVER has he been racist, and perhaps you should think very carefully before you throw such allegations online because you can face legal action. So be responsible and think before you post. An apology would be very welcome to us all.

LTNman 20th Jun 2018 19:17


Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street (Post 10177547)
LTNman, whilst I am sure your a nice bloke the fact remains you are equally a very negative person! Being a racist is ok as long as you keep it to yourself! As someone who on a daily basis monitors the development of the new rail link from my departing train at Parkway to the airport CTA area- there is in fact on-going works being carried out!





We need to have a long chat on PM's my friend as you need educating and enlightening if you think my post was racist. Some people live in a world where even an observation is classed as offensive so should not even be mentioned despite being true.

Negative posts? Can't really argue that point but again I see things and think that can't be right so I comment. Again best to block my posts.

LTNman 20th Jun 2018 19:51

Construction update
 
Photo shows the holes of the former lift shafts of the third core. To the left of the bus can be seen the first floor entrance to the airport's second multistory. To the extreme left is the former drop off zone that is set to become the DART station. Some of the drop off lanes are now a pleasant 7 or 8 minute walk from the terminal in the sunshine. (trying to be positive)

https://i.imgur.com/a4B2Lm3.jpg

Not sure what has happened to this road sign but the general signage is dire with no mention of multiple drop off lanes.
https://i.imgur.com/29ugzlI.jpg

Work continues to clear the former short term car park and to put back a realigned exit route that will squeeze in between both multi-stories. With 8 exit barriers and a dedicated bus route through the CTA leaving the airport has got a whole lot better. (being very positive)

The plans show a high level road bridge linking the two car parks but we will have to see if it is put in. Almost this whole area this side of the wooden fence including the temporary road will be the new second multistory car park and will be bigger than the first with over 2000 spaces.
https://i.imgur.com/iATA0uU.jpg

Manx 20th Jun 2018 20:53


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10177506)
I don't judge but just observe. If that has offended you then too bad so I suggest you block my posts.

I'm not offended, but with the standard of popular debate I know why you've been directed to draw that conclusion. I'm happy that you didn't lower yourself to accusing me of being politically correct or calling me a snowflake or some other term that morons lower themselves to using these days - they generally do that when they're offended by the assumptions of other people being offended (really!!). We should be able to comment when we're not offended but where we disagree and those comments should warrant not causing offence by default - I'm fairly sure that based on the historical information thats posted here that most of us are adults.

I've just observed that some of your posts regularly include irrelevant, out of place and unverifiable comments about Eastern Europeans and that they negatively tarnish the otherwise great content of your contributions. Those comments don't appear in any other topic on these boards that I read or from any other poster.

Apologies if you're offended by my observations but that's not my concern.

Great photo updates as always

cj241101 20th Jun 2018 20:58

My observation concerning the latest road layout in the CTA. The 2 lanes of traffic going over the new "hump" are separated by a line of cones. Right hand lane for the drop-off area, left hand lane for the multi-storey and exit, as per the photo above. Only traffic using the drop off zone now has to exit via the pay barriers. Traffic in the right hand lane can easily slip between the cones into the left hand lane and drop their passengers off at the far end nearest the Delta taxiway, thus avoiding the pay barriers. At least 2 drivers had already worked this one out when I exited this morning. Alternatively, use the bus route, go around the old roundabout and that puts you in the left hand lane anyway. 2 cars did just that this morning as well.

Buster the Bear 20th Jun 2018 22:03

June should have seen work start on diverting taxiway Alpha ( 97 weeks)

Where are they diverting it, Stansted!


LTNman doesn't agree with me most of the time, and I reckon the news of the terminal and associated infrastructure development should be on Civil Engineers Rumour Network, but at least we post rumours and news. Having worked at EGGW for 22 years, and please don't tell him, I actually do read his posts as the are informative!

dvc 20th Jun 2018 23:42


June should have seen work start on diverting taxiway Alpha
Are we talking about (old) Alpha taxiway that was changed to Bravo earlier this year?


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