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daz211 9th Feb 2020 11:29


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10683226)
More to do with the direction of the runway. Stansted is better aligned for the direction of the wind. Several more in the hold or not even bothering to go into the hold

Not much of a diversion, Seen a Norwegian and a British Airways, both from the States, DY diverted to CPH and BA is on its way to FRA, both we’re heading to LGW. :eek:

barry lloyd 9th Feb 2020 11:45

The Wizzair Poznan-Luton has diverted to Newcastle!

AirportPlanner1 9th Feb 2020 12:14


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10683296)
Not much of a diversion, Seen a Norwegian and a British Airways, both from the States, DY diverted to CPH and BA is on its way to FRA, both we’re heading to LGW. :eek:

Also an STN-bound FR from Sweden currently heading somewhere in France

LiamNCL 9th Feb 2020 13:12


Originally Posted by barry lloyd (Post 10683315)
The Wizzair Poznan-Luton has diverted to Newcastle!

Really not bad at all up here , dry and a slight breeze.

ssflyer 9th Feb 2020 13:42

Wizz Air from Cracow diverted to BHX
https://www.newsflare.com/video/3378...ara-crosswinds
SS

dvc 10th Feb 2020 13:38


Originally Posted by seer557 (Post 10679428)
The more I see of the "ski jump" embellishment to the DART bridge, the more ridiculous it looks. What a waste of money!

Seer

I see it installed wrong way round. I believe on 3D rendering was also other way round.

LTNman 10th Feb 2020 14:09

The superstructure is being covered in scaffolding again after being covered when it was by the Ibis. I assume for the painting of the 5 shades of grey to a single grey.

LTNman 11th Feb 2020 12:02

There has been some debate here whether the consent sort by LLAOL to add new stands were more than the 48 originally approved in the 2015 planning application.

I have provided the evidence submitted by LLAOL that they consider they are still within the existing limit with the existing stand layout of 43 stands and the proposed layout of 47 stands. Seems that cargo stands don't count.

As can be seen stands 16-19 will revert back to Signature and will be called just stand 16.

In the original application Signature stand 80 was meant to be 3 terminal stands and stand 80 was meant to be 1 terminal stand . Also on the hangar line there was one extra stand making 48 in total plus cargo.

Now
https://i.imgur.com/ejhy6FP.jpg

Proposed
https://i.imgur.com/ozi717z.jpg

pabely 11th Feb 2020 12:13

Have stands 80/81 and Cargo ever been used for sheduled Aircraft? I did imply on a previous post about stand 16 going back to Signature full time.

LTNman 11th Feb 2020 12:50

Ocean Sky put in the planning application for stands 80 and 81 in 2013. They then appeared on the airports expansion plans for terminal stands. I have never seen either stand used for terminal passengers although I have seen an easyjet parked on there once. Cargo stands have been used for diverted passenger aircraft but then so has taxiway extension to Taxiway Bravo

STN Ramp Rat 11th Feb 2020 15:28

NOT wanting to start a LTN v STN war ..... just a heads up that El AL are reintroducing TLV-STN-TLV services from June, they appear to be complimentary to the Luton services not "instead of" and are bookable on the EL AL website.

daz211 11th Feb 2020 16:53


Originally Posted by Yahoo!® (Post 10685302)
yet you post on the LTN thread, rather than just the more relevant STN one :ugh:

I think it should be posted on the Luton thread, if only to stop the questions regarding a possible airport switch, I think it a very relevant post.

LTNman 11th Feb 2020 17:27

EL AL are dipping their toes back into Stansted because they cannot get extra flights into Luton due to seat capping at Luton. Also there could be an argument that there is less competition.

davidjohnson6 11th Feb 2020 17:38


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10685339)
EL AL are dipping their toes back into Stansted because they cannot get extra flights into Luton due to seat capping at Luton.

Slots at Heathrow are traded for money. Is there any reason why slots at Luton should not be bought/sold ? Yes, I know people would have laughed at the idea 5 years ago

I'm wondering if the likes of Vueling or SunExpress might be persuaded to move to Stansted in exchange for some cash from El Al...

LTNman 11th Feb 2020 18:27

The cap is only expected to last this year with a planning application from the council’s business partner being heard soon. There is no doubt about the outcome as it is council policy to ignore objections as it puts its own interests first, which makes a mockery of Luton’s corrupt planning process.

Spanish eyes 12th Feb 2020 22:04

It wasn’t that long ago that the airport operator stated that the airports capacity was 16 million but the bully boys at the council wanted more with the airport operator eventually conceding. Now according to reports here the operator has put in an application for 19 million which makes me wonder if it is actually the council putting in the application to itself via the company that is running the concession. This I would imagine is linked to the other planning application to relax noise limits as the operator doesn’t wish to comply.

This is a classic tale of abuse of power by a local authority where there are no checks and balances and where the planning committee goes through the motions to make everything appear legal but the process is not impartial.

Lee Baker Street 13th Feb 2020 16:49


Originally Posted by Spanish eyes (Post 10686311)
It wasn’t that long ago that the airport operator stated that the airports capacity was 16 million but the bully boys at the council wanted more with the airport operator eventually conceding. Now according to reports here the operator has put in an application for 19 million which makes me wonder if it is actually the council putting in the application to itself via the company that is running the concession. This I would imagine is linked to the other planning application to relax noise limits as the operator doesn’t wish to comply.

This is a classic tale of abuse of power by a local authority where there are no checks and balances and where the planning committee goes through the motions to make everything appear legal but the process is not impartial.

Spanish eyes, I must be one of many Luton tax payers who ‘demand’ LBC allow the airport to reach its potential which will entail continued growth. In turn there will be employment opportunities for those seeking work.

For decades the airport was under used and now it has the potential to become the UK’s 3rd Airport (yes 3rd Airport) and I live within twenty five seconds of departing aircraft from the runway over south Luton.

You claim or have inferred that the council is breaking the Law. Can you please state exactly what Laws have been broken.

I await your response...



Spanish eyes 13th Feb 2020 18:46

No I haven't said the council was breaking the law, I said it was an abuse of power.

https://www.local.gov.uk/sites/defau...uncill-d92.pdf

"Members of a planning committee, Local Plan steering group (or full Council when the local plan is being considered) need to avoid any appearance of bias or of having predetermined their views before taking a decision on a planning application or on planning policies"

The airport is a limited company and so should be treated like any other limited company.


Now tell me they all go into that meeting with an open mind when it is council policy to expand the airport at any cost. Even airport supporters, and I am one of them, can see something is not right here. So who is really pushing this application? Couple of clues here from the past with the then airport operator saying the capacity was 16 million.


Or here when the council wanted more and had a big falling out.

AirportWatch | Second consultation at Luton Airport ? this time it?s the Master Plan

ericlday 14th Feb 2020 10:11

Any successful business with year on year increases should be given the opportunity to expand,

inOban 14th Feb 2020 11:36

Really? Many of our most successful and growing businesses are completely illegal. Going back a few decades we had very successful and growing tobacco businesses. Times change.


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