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Manx 9th Mar 2020 19:00


Originally Posted by ericlday (Post 10707640)
The reality is there is very little English spoken within the Airport.....fact !!!!

Well, except that its quite clearly not a fact.

LTNman 9th Mar 2020 22:14

Seems like a fact to me walking around the airport.

Changing the subject anyone going to Israel is required to self isolate for 14 days from Thursday. Big impact on Luton as most people won’t go.

cj241101 10th Mar 2020 08:06

El Al last operated the LY311/2 on 28th Feb. Fly Bosnia seem to have stopped flying, at least for the time being, last flight SJJ-LTN was 29th Feb, last flight SJJ-Rome was 28th Feb, don't seem to have been operating any other routes. Their only aircraft hasn't appeared on FR24 this month.

LTNman 10th Mar 2020 08:40

Under EU laws that cover Luton, if EL Al don't use the slot they will lose it.

(edit) Their next flight doesn't depart until 20th March but with the new conditions imposed on travellers to Israel I would expect that flight to be consolidated with maybe Heathrow.

LGS6753 10th Mar 2020 10:58

Transport Secretary Grant Schapps has requested that ACL waive the "use it or lose it" clause in slot allocations. Apparently lots of aircraft are flying around empty to preserve slots.

Spanish eyes 10th Mar 2020 15:11

Maybe we should start a sweepstake and guess how many passengers will have passed through Luton by the years end. I am guessing the figure will drop from 18 million to around 14 million. No urgency then for the planning application for 19 million passengers.

22/04 10th Mar 2020 15:57

It's funny Spanish Eyes I was thinking the same thing. You picked my number so I wil have to go lower - I think the lowest could be 12.5 million. We probably will need the planning application by 2022 though

pabely 10th Mar 2020 18:05


Originally Posted by 22/04 (Post 10709008)
We probably will need the planning application by 2022 though

More like slip it in whilst everyones attention is somewhere else!

LTNman 11th Mar 2020 11:48

Passenger update, touch of Southampton?
 
Thought I would do a passenger update rather than my normal construction update. What a difference a week can make, as I can't remember seeing the terminal this empty for years. The photos were not taken during the morning peak but just during the day when there is a steady stream of arriving and departing passengers and those waiting around. Plenty of flights showing on the boards, a few last minute cancellations plus no doubt others missing due to earlier flight reductions so I am guessing there are many no shows and no late bookings.

I also watched a Wizz A321 take off, it was airborne just beyond Taxiway Charlie which is the middle taxiway.

Total of four cars plus an airport van when this photo was taken.
https://i.imgur.com/XgaOr1P.jpg

Normally a busy area but not today
https://i.imgur.com/7ppMO3x.jpg

All but empty
https://i.imgur.com/PLGWDV2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fRq0Vde.jpg

No problem finding a seat
https://i.imgur.com/87Kk8sT.jpg

Sotonsean 11th Mar 2020 13:36

LTNman

Just out of curiousity, whilst you were doing your rounds of the terminal and drop off area earlier today how many English voices did you hear 😉

On a more serious note those photos clearly show how bad the situation has become, it's unbelievable how empty the airport looks. A similar view was taken of the terminal of my local airport of Southampton the day after the collapse of Flybe but that was fairly understandable considering that the airline accounted for 95% of the airport's business.

It'll be interesting to know the passenger figures for today as going forward it's not looking too good especially by looking at your photos. On the news earlier it announced that people were cancelling their travel plans at an alarming rate not only those intendeding on travelling abroad but also those staying in the UK.

It's going to have an absolutely detrimental effect on the entire travel industry this year, alot of people working in the industry are afraid of their livehoods, myself included.

LTNman 11th Mar 2020 15:10


Just out of curiousity, whilst you were doing your rounds of the terminal and drop off area earlier today how many English voices did you hear
If you want the truth I didn't hear many voices of any language.

As I said these photos were not taken in the airports peak periods but it still looked bad compared to last week. We have to remember that Luton in February was Luton in August not that long ago.

LDNLTN 11th Mar 2020 15:37

Well, there was meant to be 15,000 passing through yesterday, 11,000 actually showed up. Also looking at the flight boards earlier, around 4 flights were cancelled, all being Italy. I have to say it’s been rather dead up here in departures today. Things aren’t looking promising at all.

AirportPlanner1 11th Mar 2020 17:14

How bad actually is it? I flew out of STN in the middle of the day on Friday and it didn’t seem especially quieter than a normal winter day. I didn’t get to see many flights board or disembark but those I did seemed to have fairly healthy loads. Both my flights out and back were almost full.

It was similar in Nantes, a number of domestics along with Gatwick, Stansted and Fuerteventura were busy. Malpensa had 0 pax (20 inbound), Venice and Strasbourg (where the French outbreak is concentrated) cancelled. Orly on a CRJ had 5 pax but CDG on an Airbus looked full so maybe low is normal.

LTNman 11th Mar 2020 18:07

No idea, it was a moment in time taken today so take it as a snapshot. I didn’t hang around, didn’t touch any surfaces and kept my distance from humanity which wasn’t difficult. If 11,000 passengers were reported travelling through departures then double that number for those arriving. Just 22,000 passengers for mid week seems remarkably low when last March the figure for the month was 1.35million

LGS6753 11th Mar 2020 19:57

1.35 million, equally distributed, is 43,500 a day. Your snapshot could mean a reduction of up to 50%.

LTNman 11th Mar 2020 20:14

Higher numbers on Fridays and weekends I would have thought but there seems to be a serious reduction in passenger numbers from what I was witnessing only a week ago.

LTNman 13th Mar 2020 11:58

Wizz and Easyjet flights to the Czech Republic, are about to end for a period of time due to a travel ban on foreigners entering the country and citizens not being allowed to leave the country.

davidjohnson6 13th Mar 2020 12:04

Slovakia to shut down all international flights

LTNman 13th Mar 2020 12:15

Now Foreign Office advice not to travel to parts of Spain including Madrid. I wrote on Monday about my observation about a massive drop in passengers. We haven’t seen nothing yet.

Buster the Bear 13th Mar 2020 12:40

The knock on effects are going to be serve for those that supply the airlines and airports, cash flow will be under massive pressure. The strongest will survive, but with the airline works at times on 2-3% profit margins, one can only image the affect on staff working directly for, or indirectly in the aviation industry.


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