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LTNman 2nd Feb 2020 06:51


Originally Posted by Smpl (Post 10677419)
According with caa statistics, the total passengers of 2019 was 18,213,901. The airport only can increase in 4.3% in order to reach 19MM.

They plan to add capacity in small steps to 22.5 million in the expectation that no one bothers to complain rather than just announce plans to add a further 4.5 million in one hit. The planned terminal extension is only tiny as they have all but run out of room. Think it has more to do with adding a few more check-in desks. 18 million was meant to have maxed out the space available so expect even less room for passengers upstairs.

The builders will have real issues gaining enough access for the mini build as all men and materials will have to cross the main passenger access route to the terminal and also will have to close off a large chunk of pavement for access via the bus station. It will also once again reenforce the view that the airport is a permanent building site.

pabely 2nd Feb 2020 13:12


Originally Posted by Smpl (Post 10677419)
According with caa statistics, the total passengers of 2019 was 18,213,901. The airport only can increase in 4.3% in order to reach 19MM.

When the airport could start the new expansion of the old terminal?

I think there was approval to go for new South East stands (6 pack) - upgrade run-up bay (2 stands) this week. Plans show Pondarosa being given back (or lease back) which will please Signature but net gain is 4 overnight Class C stands (47), bets please on who will benefit most, WZZ UK, EZY, RYR. That will add just under a million pax alone depending on based aircraft size.

Next expansion +4 more stands between current NE 8 pack and South Stands.......

LTNman 2nd Feb 2020 15:00


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10677739)
I think there was approval to go for new North East stands (6 pack) - upgrade run-up bay (2 stands) this week. Plans show Pondarosa being given back (or lease back) which will please Signature but net gain is 4 overnight Class 4 stands (47), bets please on who will benefit most, WZZ UK, EZY, RYR. That will add just under a million pax alone depending on based aircraft size.
...

They don’t need approval.

If the bullsh!ters at the airport are to be believed those extra stands have nothing to do with expanding the airport above 18 million. Lies and teeth comes to mind as the council, LLAL and LLAOL have form when it comes to telling pokies. They claim those new stands are part of the application for 18 million yet we all know they are not as Pabely points out.

Falcon666 4th Feb 2020 10:21


latest drone footage of DART for anybody interested


2019 development time lapse

PAXboy 4th Feb 2020 12:13

Will the Dart have a station in the Mid-Term car park, or will they still be on busses?

Falcon666 4th Feb 2020 13:08


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 10679206)
Will the Dart have a station in the Mid-Term car park, or will they still be on busses?

No, the plans were dropped for the Mid-term station

seer557 4th Feb 2020 17:32

The more I see of the "ski jump" embellishment to the DART bridge, the more ridiculous it looks. What a waste of money!

Seer

Lee Baker Street 4th Feb 2020 20:03


Originally Posted by seer557 (Post 10679428)
The more I see of the "ski jump" embellishment to the DART bridge, the more ridiculous it looks. What a waste of money!

Seer

When I look at the so called ‘ski jump’ I see something modern and inspiring and I vision- reaching for the skies. The fact is we all see things from a different angle and I like to think I am unbiased though it is becoming apparent this forum has now been hijacked by the green brigade!




LTNman 4th Feb 2020 21:46

The ski slope and supports wasn’t painted before it was transported down the hill so the road has got to be closed for painting. Think the airport approach road and the A1081 are meant to be closed overnight this week but the work might have been delayed.

As for the bridges appearance, it looked impressive when being built by the Ibis and not so impressive when it was first erected as it is on a bend in the road so only a quick glimpse is seen. Now the ski slope looks rather pointless after driving under it many times. I am sure it has cost a small fortune to build and added to the cost of transporting the bridge as the front support actually needed its own temporary supports to hold it in place.

Also looking at the video the top of the slope appears to be much taller than the approach light.

PAXboy 4th Feb 2020 23:59

Lee baker Street This forum has most certainly not be hijacked by the green brigade. There are many posters concerned at the haphazard expansion of LTN (as also happens at other airports and infrastructure in the UK) but I cannot see those who want to reduce the level of operations. Make them better? Yes. Stop?

1sky 5th Feb 2020 06:03


Originally Posted by Boeing737-8 (Post 10675772)
Looking like Sofia evening flight is staying at LTN. LGW flight is an additional flight on top of the 3 daily from LTN.

No it isn’t.

DC3 Dave 5th Feb 2020 06:39


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10679599)
The ski slope and supports wasn’t painted before it was transported down the hill so the road has got to be closed for painting. Think the airport approach road and the A1081 are meant to be closed overnight this week but the work might have been delayed.

Are you sure it will be painted? The “in thing” with these signature bridges is to use weathered steel. At least I recall reading that somewhere.

There’s a footbridge over a railway line in Chiswick, that’s been up over a year without any sign of a lick of paint. It’s a lovely shade of rust.


Edit: Found some pics to show what I mean.

https://expedition.uk.com/projects/c...rk-footbridge/

Falcon666 5th Feb 2020 06:54

Wizz dropping OSL / PRG / SVG from June.
They haven’t really had much luck with the Scandinavian routes since starting. I guess putting the A321 on some of the routes from the start was a tad over optimistic.
TOS finishes at the end of March- if it is seasonal I am not sure.

PRG/ VIE end up swopped over between Easy and Wizz so no actual loss of route.

compton3bravo 5th Feb 2020 11:47

Tromso is seasonal as is Grenoble which finishes about the same time as Tromso. Wizz do not mess about if a route is not working, move on and start new routes which might work better. The slots will be used for example extra Tenerife and the new Gran Canaria service.

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pabely 5th Feb 2020 12:26


Originally Posted by compton3bravo (Post 10679997)
Tromso is seasonal as is Grenoble which finishes about the same time as Tromso. Wizz do not mess about if a route is not working, move on and start new routes which might work better. The slots will be used for example extra Tenerife and the new Gran Canaria service.

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With the loss of the Scandinavian routes but extra Canaries I think there is still more to come.

LTNman 6th Feb 2020 08:26

Construction update
 
The digging out of the 2 remaining sections of tunnel inside the CTA continues. The photo shows the route of one track as a concrete wall sits in between each pathway
https://i.imgur.com/IIXEHBR.jpg

This is believed to be the 2 winding gear locations that can be seen in the maintenance area. A similar arrangement exists on the ground floor of Parkway Dart station.
https://i.imgur.com/NzGylhb.jpg

The new route for the ring road opened at midday on Wednesday. In the background can be seen the roof of the Dart maintenance area . The road to the right leads to the delivery area for the terminal and the access point for Dart construction traffic. The top 2 floors of the new multi story did not open as expected and remains closed.
https://i.imgur.com/6XUWWXY.jpg

Despite morning frost the new de-icing facility was not in use with aircraft being de-iced on stand today. Has it ever been used apart from testing? In the foreground is the former drop off area that is now the meet and greet parking area. Behind that is the now closed ring road. In the background to the left of the easyjet at the runway holding point can be seen a digger. Has work started on the taxiway extension to runway 26?
https://i.imgur.com/GxHY7TR.jpg

The airport is proposing to add capacity to the existing terminal by infilling this section. The terminal extension would extend to approximately the smoking area and would be tapered to cover part of the front of the existing new build
https://i.imgur.com/yN59Y5i.jpg

I would assume that all of the pavement to the right of the railings would be used as the access route and for the construction compound. I am thinking access would be via the service road and not the bus station as I stated last week.
https://i.imgur.com/DwWKv8g.jpg

VHF4 6th Feb 2020 13:09


Originally Posted by Boeing737-8 (Post 10675358)
Tenerife goes from 3 weekly to daily on the 1st June.

New route to Gran Canaria from the 4th June. (3 weekly)


Thats good news hearvit might be extended ...

Musket90 6th Feb 2020 19:56

LTNman
Several airports have remote aircraft de-icing facilities but they are not routinely used unless the weather dictates it. This morning's slight frost with no precipitation likely didn't warrant their use as hold over time following de-icing is much longer than when precipitation occurs. In a beast from the east type weather situation it's possible they would have been used but there are so many variables involved before deciding whether there is any benefit in using them over remaining on stand for de-icing. This winter so far being so mild has not warranted any airport's using their remote de-icing facilities.

Buster the Bear 6th Feb 2020 20:41

Has there been any news or comment about the recently revealed revamp of the local government funding formula and the potential impact on revenue that might affect some of the future plans by LBC to borrow and expand the airport?

vlieger 6th Feb 2020 21:38


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10680803)
In the background to the left of the easyjet at the runway holding point can be seen a digger. Has work started on the taxiway extension to runway 26?

From what I've seen from the flightdeck in the last few months, the answer to that question would be yes.


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