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Planespeaking 28th Mar 2020 08:07


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 10730778)
The other massive challenge for LTN perhaps above other London airports is Brexit, if the Government continue on their kamikaze course. High unemployment from corona will drastically reduce incoming migration and if greater migrants from the last 15 years head back than anticipated either because of the economy or they’re made unwelcome that will further compromise the massive Wizz operation even further. That is assuming Wizz like many other airlines can weather a long shutdown.

'Kamikaze course'. An interesting sweeping assertion.

pabely 28th Mar 2020 08:21

Interesting, I would say more shocking!

Dannyboy39 28th Mar 2020 08:59


Originally Posted by Planespeaking (Post 10730786)
'Kamikaze course'. An interesting sweeping assertion.

Or correct, considering both Frost and Barnier right now are struck down with COVID-19 and there is no change in timeline because of the crisis!

AirportPlanner1 28th Mar 2020 11:09


Originally Posted by Planespeaking (Post 10730786)
'Kamikaze course'. An interesting sweeping assertion.

Surely not participating in the purchasing of ventilators and claiming not to have seen the e-mail despite the Health Secretary publicly referring to it the week before is the very definition of kamikaze. As is refusing to take part in pandemic early monitoring even though other non-EU nations do so.

Planespeaking 28th Mar 2020 11:20


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 10730923)
Surely not participating in the purchasing of ventilators and claiming not to have seen the e-mail despite the Health Secretary publicly referring to it the week before is the very definition of kamikaze. As is refusing to take part in pandemic early monitoring even though other non-EU nations do so.

And what has that to do with 52% of the nation voting for Brexit? The biggest democratic vote in the country's history.

davidjohnson6 28th Mar 2020 11:33

Could I very gently suggest that Brexit type things be discussed on a separate thread and that this thread be used just for Luton ?

Planespeaking 28th Mar 2020 11:34


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10730942)
Could I very gently suggest that Brexit type things be discussed on a separate thread and that this thread be used just for Luton ?

Sorry David you are right.

AirportPlanner1 28th Mar 2020 11:38


Originally Posted by Planespeaking (Post 10730934)
And what has that to do with 52% of the nation voting for Brexit? The biggest democratic vote in the country's history.

It wasn’t the biggest democratic vote, that was the 1992 general election. What it has to do with 52% voting to leave the EU is that is the direct consequence of the direction the Government is taking in their ideological interpretation. Why it’s relevant to LTN is that it very much impacts the the future schedule and success of one of the airport’s major operators.

pabely 29th Mar 2020 10:14

I know the Wizzair AM 'rush' has been down to just 5 flights for a while now and today it dropped to 3 but did any actually arrive today?
Edit, just found them on FR24 over Germany heading our way.

LTNman 29th Mar 2020 11:01

I have noticed that Easyjet have run no rescue flights through Luton. Also since last week National Express services no longer operate or call into the airport.

Rumours going around security that Wizz will be pulling their last flights out of Luton soon.

I have been going for walks over the fields by the airport over the last few days. Remarkable as there is no man made noise, just bird song disturbing the peace. A high price is being paid for all that silence though.


D7666 29th Mar 2020 15:56


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10731950)

I have been going for walks over the fields by the airport over the last few days. Remarkable as there is no man made noise, just bird song disturbing the peace. A high price is being paid for all that silence though.

My routine exercise for years, and maintained now, is a walk out south of Luton. The bird song comment is very true, occasionally broken by a train.

One evening mid week the only aircraft I saw or heard was an outbound BA A380 - the surrounding silence allowed the Trents to be heard in full, even at height.

But, as you say, at a price.

LTNman 29th Mar 2020 16:50

Out for an hour and a half today and didn’t see or hear any airport activity apart from security patrolling the fence. Must be as quiet now as it was in the 60’s.

Wonder if the FBO’s are still open 24/7? Can’t see the terminal remaining 24/7 for long.

pabely 29th Mar 2020 17:08

Signature only using T1 now.

LTNman 29th Mar 2020 18:18

Thought the stopped using T2 when their new FBO opened. Certainly never seen any S Class cars up there for a good couple of years.

G-ARZG 29th Mar 2020 18:25


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10732427)
Thought the stopped using T2 when their new FBO opened. Certainly never seen any S Class cars up there for a good couple of years.

I believe SFS T2 is (was) only used for larger 'airliner' type loads

pabely 29th Mar 2020 19:00


Originally Posted by G-ARZG (Post 10732436)
I believe SFS T2 is (was) only used for larger 'airliner' type loads

Correct, footie teams etc but obvoiusly zero demand now.

LTNman 29th Mar 2020 21:25

It was the Ocean Sky terminal. What happened to them at Luton? The main apron for T2 was used for Signature parking but is empty now.

pabely 31st Mar 2020 12:44

Ocean Sky got bought by Signature. With them appearing not be using stands 80/81 perhaps we might see more EZY planes arrive on those? Don't know if they are leased stands or dedicated to the FBO.

LTNman 31st Mar 2020 13:11

Passenger figures down 4% for February compared to last February. Overall still sitting at 18,223,000 for rolling 12 months.

LTNman 31st Mar 2020 13:19


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10734526)
Ocean Sky got bought by Signature. With them appearing not be using stands 80/81 perhaps we might see more EZY planes arrive on those? Don't know if they are leased stands or dedicated to the FBO.

They used to double park on the south stands years ago for football matches. Also there is the new taxiway extension to 08 that could be used while taxiway Foxtrot only has 3 aircraft parked on there. I assume Luton still has expensive charges as they charge by the hour.


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