Aer Lingus/Delta/Winter 2013/4
 

Aer Lingus:
An extra 18 flights have being added between 27 July and 31 August, extra capacity across the network to Alicante, Budapest, Faro, Lisbon, Malaga and Paris.

Ibiza season has being extended from 16 September to 28 September and operates two weekly from 16.

Delta:
DL to keep the B763 on JFK after 5 September and not switch back to the B752.

Winter 2013/4:
Lufthansa back to all A321 for the winter season from 27 October, route lost a A321 rotation on 28 October 2012.

Norwegian 3rd weekly OSL service restored for most of the winter season and operates from 29 October to 17 December and then resumes 4 March again. HEL appears to be seasonal.

Turkish Airlines continuing 10 weekly for the winter season.

American operating JFK 4 weekly for the winter season.

Flynonstop's new two weekly service to KRS. (TBH I will be surprised if it even starts)

Falcon Holidays have added two new routes from Dublin to Ibiza & Rhodes for Summer 2014.

http://travelbiz.ie/newsstory/Falcon...Ibiza_for_2014

There Summer 2014 schedule will come out on Thursday.

Thanks for the info, Jamie.

Where are they going to fit these into Dublin. I was there last week and several T/A arrivals were sitting out on the taxiways for ages waiting for a stand. Pier B in T1 (the 300 Series Gates) was awash with T2 overflow EI pax (among one rogue BA) with constant calls being made for their missing ones who, seemingly, may have got lost having had to check in at T2 only to discover they had to walk to T1. One couple actually stopped and asked me did I know where 311 was!!!

It is becoming increasingly evident that T2 was not only built in the wrong place but is also far too small. I hope the heady days don't return soon as, when it does, that area of the airport is facing meltdown congestion chaos with aircraft trying to get into and out of two cul-de-sacs as well as avoiding traffic heading to the 28 hold.

It was interesting watching Heathrow Live on BBC the other night in that they were determined to not have cul-de-sacs associated with the rebuilt T2. Forward thinking unlike the incompetent DAA.

The T/A arrivals sitting waiting for stands is because they have arrived before their slot times and airlines are told that stands may not be available if the arrival is before the scheduled time. Happens at other airports so not just DUB.

I am sick and tired of hearing this departure/arrival at Pier B and people being annoyed when the walk is no different.

Posted on another forum a few weeks ago.
Furthest point of Pier E to T2 exit 589m
Furthest point of Pier B to T2 exit 587m
Furthest point of Pier D to T1 exit 840m, while the closest point is 607m

If people have such a love for T1 then fly with Ryanair but that would be to easy as people would have nothing to give out about.

Joined Terminals happens all over the world and one airport which you walk for a lot longer is at Malaga, EI use T3 to check in but departure gate is at old terminal as are arrivals. Ryanair use T2 yet all passengers use T3 security. Do we see people complaining, no because they know no different.

As for passenger incompetence, not a lot airlines can do, it doesn't take the sharpest tool in the box to read the gate on the boarding pass ie 3xx and follow the very large sign saying gates 3xx to 3xx with a big arrow beside it. Clearly signed all the way.

As for the extra flights, most have a 10.30 departure, have not looked at the schedule in great detail but they may use the leased A320 which is hasn't got a regular schedule AFAIK.

Dublin - 2
 

Complaints about "confusion" finding the 300 gates after check in in T2 appears in print and on forums every so often. The deal at every airport is: you look at the information monitor, note your departure gate, follow the clear signs until you get to your gate. It's the same here. Where exactly is the difficulty???

I have no connection with Dublin Airport except as a passenger every 10 weeks or so. I have been a harsh critic of the place until the opening of T2. I now find it's a pleasure to pass through either departing or arriving using T1 and T2.

I have had bad experiences at JFK, Newark, Paris CDG, Berlin Tegel, and London Heathrow. I have had outstandingly bad experiences at Philadelphia, Washington Dulles and Montevideo but the daddy of them all was at Los Angeles. Pretty much all of this was caused by chaotic crowd management in hopelessly overloaded facilities. Compared to these incidents there is little of substance to complain about at Dublin. (Always room for improvement though).

It is striking however that people complained about overcrowding at Dublin and then when T2 opened, (the same?) people complained about a white elephant.

I understand that when you work behind the scenes of any industry sometimes keeping the show on the road can be fraught but from this passenger's perspective it's a pleasure to use DUB - for now.

i have the completely opposite point of view and experience

Dublin
 

Only big issue for me is the failure to go ahead with the extra runway,
A good time to build it is now before the airport gets even busier...

"i have the completely opposite point of view and experience"

I'd agree. Not a fan of the place at all.

Dublin doesn't need a second runway, there is plenty of excess capacity in the current runway available. What it does need is a runway extension, along with wider taxiways and apron/stand modifications in order to accommodate larger aircraft.

However, the point above regarding Pier E not being big enough is 100% correct. It was well documented before T2 was even built that it and it's associated piers would be severely capacity constrained with little or no room available for expansion. The DAA and the government dismissed this at the time that DAA were awarded the contract to build the new terminal, but yet here we are now discussing the result of bad planning. There may be room to build an additional pier on the site of the current Cargo area, but that is about as much as T2 can expand.

I expect that within 5 years a third terminal will have to built West of the airport in order to accommodate future growth (hopefully by a private contractor), which is where T2 should've been built to begin with.

I second that, just look at Gatwick - It can show how effectively infrastructure can be used approaching 40M pax.

I've never understood with the location of the previous Dublin Airport (before T2) that the DAA didn't follow the planning of Munich i.e. where they plan to build the second runway they could have built expansion between the two which is much more effective land use.

While it doesn't need a second runway, the current 10/28 will have to be closed and rebuild in the future. Its not is best condition.

Expect it to be a lot longer. Third terminal won't happen until.

Pier F built which will have around 13 gates for short haul aircraft, that would solve all problems at Pier E.

Pier B is redeveloped like Pier E but will have around 30 gates with air bridges. Was planned in two stages. I think there was better connection plans to T2 as well.

Pier A is redeveloped like Pier D and will have around 20 gates no air bridges.

Pier G is built at the other side of Pier D and it turns off which will have around 15 gates, no air bridges.

Pier D can be extended and there was early plans for that and it was 8 extra gates.

Largely all wider aircraft will use B and F however other piers can take them.

Now as capacity will be needed over the next 8 or 9 years, it will be either Pier F or first phase of Pier B. I would build Pier F first and solve all problems that they currently have.

This year passenger numbers will likely be just below 20 million if current trends continue, couldn't see over 20 unless Ryanair do add capacity from September.

Flynonstop ex Dublin
 

Worth noting this is one of those virtual travel companies like manx2 !!
No AOC so is not an airline rather it is a travel company

Plan is to use denimair 100 sweater jet....just make sure no one pays them cash use a credit card and good luck !!!

Dublin's ok
 

HI,

I frequently use Dublin Airport - I love T2........most of the time. Check-in when flying TA with a bag can have long check-in delays for EI.
And security can be slow - but not bad. When flying UA on the Atlantic I've found it really quick with US immigration a whizz. The last day I passed along a lady infront of me called a buddy in the UK to tell the buddy "Next time you are heading to the US - go via Dublin - the place is lovely, new and the immigration is brilliant". The lowcost terminal has a walk to it - but it's not bad.
And a whole world of a difference from before. As travelling via Heathrow - even on Dub - and finishing in LONDON gives me a pain.

Regards
Shamrogue

Falcon/Thomson 2014
 

Includes the new routes posted above all operate by Thomson, no Thomson W flights into SNN while DUB will operate SNN/ORK-REU. Around 5 days of flying to have carrier advised.

Ah, the same old story:) - by people who know every inch of the airport and can't understand how less familiar or first time pax can get confused. The actual placement of signs is all important. "Follow the signs" is easy to say. At the point where the couple asked for my help in getting to the 3xx gates they had, presumably, followed the signs from T2 but were now faced with a large sign indicating the direction to take to Gates 1xx, (Pier D) but nothing for 3xx so it is likely that they might have suspected that they missed a turn somewhere. Yes, you are correct, there was a large 3xx sign further up the corridor. The only problem was that some bright spark in the DAA had decided to hang another sign in front of it (VAT or something) so it was obscured from that position. If the second (and less important sign) needed to go up there it could have been placed to one side rather than in front of the main sign but you're asking a lot of the DAA to work that one out.

Luxair have announced that they will resume their 4 weekly service to Luxembourg from 30 March 2014, flights will operate with a Q400 which is also a capacity increase from the ERJ145 they used to operate.

Wort.lu - Luxair resumes direct flights to Dublin

Second runway at Dublin Airport to be deferred - Tourism News | Travel & Tourism Industry News | The Irish Times - Mon, Jul 08, 2013

Had expected it would be 2019 before it would be built, hopefully they have a plan for 10/28.

2nd parallel rwy at DUB
 

The UK government dithering do nothing approach really is not one that should be copied.

Why can't they just improve and extend the one they've got?

Its falling to bits. Actual foundations, not the very recently redone surface.

They need the second runway built so that the existing 10/28 can be torn up and rebuilt from scratch.

The 1Bn didn't cover T2, it covered the entire improvement plan including amongst other things the Pier D that your mate MOLly now relies on.

Except, of course, you actually already knew that didn't you, but you prefer to repeat Molly's gibberish.

Also that €1bn included the introduction of HS taxiways.

What airport are you talking about with 3 million passengers a year? This is the Dublin thread, 19+ million passengers a year...

What Terminal are you talking about that cost €1 Billion? This is the Dublin Thread, the most recent terminal, T2 only cost €600m.

They need a new runway as the current one should probably be defined as a gravel runway, that's why.

Don't forget it also included Ryanair's precious Pier D...

Of course, why let the facts get in the way of a good DAA / Irish Government / Aer Lingus bashing, eh Racedo?

For that type of spend I'd have expected more than what seems to have turned out to be a salvage exercise on 10/28.

2 million passengers in June up 6%

Europe 1.1 million up 8%
UK 612,000 up 2%
Transatlantic 212,000 up 18%
Middle East/Africa 45,000 up 6%
Domestic 6,000 up 14%

Year to date 9.3 million up 5%

Latest News > Two Million Passengers Used Dublin Airport in June

Folks,

Flying to Cardiff from dublin with EIR next week at 6.50. Whats the security queue like at the moment or what time would I need to be at the airport..having checked in online.

Just trying to figure out whether I need to go to Dublin the night before or not. Any info appreciated

Thanks

Arrive 90 minutes before flight, it is July the busiest month of the year so it will be busy.

If you are doing a bag drop then allow at least 2 hours.

Perfect ! Thanks

Runway 10-28 at Dublin was built in 1989, and as such is relatively new. I realise that any heavily-used runway will need resurfacing every few years, but if the problem, as alleged in previous posts, is a more fundamental one, i.e. bad or crumbling foundations, then this is scandalous. Presumably a runway build in the 747 era should be expected to have an adequate specification to cope with all current aircraft types. How come runways at Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester and loads of other places do not seem to need much radical reconstruction, only resurfacing?

Yet another Irish construction sector scandal, or am I missing something?

Minoan Air
 

The long, prosperous and successful Minoan Air Oxford era is to end on 4th August :ok:

Winter 2013/14 - American Services
 

Delta
JFK - B763 replaces B757 for the winter.
ATL - Mix of B764 and B763 for the winter, capacity increased but freq remains 5 weekly. The route is suspended between 12 Jan to 9 March. When it returns a B764 will be replaced by a B763 until 30 March when the A332 starts on the route just over two months ahead of this summer but a lot can change between now and then.

United
IAD - overall remains the same however the 4 weekly period in the new year is a few weeks less, the fifth weekly flight resumes late Feb.

American Airlines
JFK - 4 weekly B757 (new)

There is also the extra capacity form Aer Lingus which was posted earlier.

W13/14 LHR
 

EI schedule is as consistent as ever
BA looks odd , a real turn off for a one day business trip in either direction ?
And DubLhr first flight in the six days it operates it as three diff departure
Times ? Odd but much less competition for EI?

Ms. Ciara Carroll spokesperson for Dublin Airport Authority contacted RTE radio this afternoon to clarify "Dublin airport could handle an A380 and wouldn't have to disembark passengers by bus that they would use air bridges." Should we be impressed?

Before you take a dig at the DAA, maybe put more "context" as to why they received the call.

Ms. Ciara Carroll spokesperson for Dublin Airport Authority contacted RTE radio this afternoon to clarify "Dublin airport could handle an A380 and wouldn't have to disembark passengers by bus that they would use air bridges." Should we be impressed?


Strange that she'd ring in because a fair few airports can cater for the A380 without using buses! It would just take longer than normal to disembark via an airbridge because of accessibility from the lower level only. We happily had an air bridge in SNN accommodating an A380 on 29.6.06.

Ahh come on 330. How could you not poke fun at Ciara's statement? Who in their right mind would give them one of their A380's to handle?

Is there a context to this? I take it the DAA (or daa, as they are soon to be) don't randomly ring up RTE to say "we can take an A380 any time you like." I mean, would anyone with an A380 be listening?

ROFL.

Yes, it would be nice if someone could tell us what prompted said woman to pick up the phone and ring RTE.

Re: Context - I heard the DAA comments whilst driving and they were made at the end of the show. They related to an earlier piece they had which I didn't hear but which I have now listened back. Gerry Byrne aviation journalist was being interviewed by Derek Mooney and he passed a remark that if 'An A380 landed at Dublin Airport it would have to sit out on the runway and bus the passengers in and out.' The DAA comment came close to the end of the program. Judging by the warmth of the greeting, both RTE presenters seem to know the spokes person for DAA very well and the statement was read out. Like Gerry, I have my doubts that Dublin is A380 ready but it appears the DAA don't like someone having a dig.