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10 DME ARC 25th Jun 2013 11:31

Boris- I thought it was you doing the speculation???:confused:

Boris1 25th Jun 2013 11:45

Scroll down page 195, that's speculation. My first post was doing what most with info do. Pass it on! (Albeit with a hint of opinion).

GAXLN 25th Jun 2013 12:30

Boris1, did I ever know you as Brad the Impaler? GAXLN

Boris1 25th Jun 2013 12:47

No idea what you're on about. And what is the relevance to this topic? None! Neither wonder people these days can't have a serious chat about movements etc on forums.

10 DME ARC 25th Jun 2013 14:30

Just to go back to the facts 277 pax per flight during the worst month of the year is still over 101% L/F on a A332 high density. So with the A332 still on the route Emirates would have lost a load of late booking/high fare passengers as the flight would have been near to full all month!!
Never mind the extra freight the B773 gives.......

PS I don't work for Emirates or NCL but I do have close links to the route at work and do travel the route often, eleven times in the last twelve months!!

Currock Base 25th Jun 2013 21:26

With a 332 you wouldn't loose a load of high paying last minute fares. Any decent airline revenue management department would sell fewer cheaper advance fares to keep the space for the last minute high paying bookings.

10 DME ARC 26th Jun 2013 07:21

CB- Okay the A332 would not have been that full but that was just one month of the year. The B773/2 gives much better passenger service and gives Emirates much better options for growth. The aircraft is still full over peak holiday times, I tried to book a DXB-NCL this Easter I couldn't get a seat any class four days out of the last week of holidays!
Where would the extra passengers have gone with the A332?? KLM, BA or more likely to Manchester taking business away from the area!
The extra Business Class seats are helping as well my return BC in mid May was full!
It does not matter if I or any one else is happy with the route what does matter is Emirates are happy...... The A332 in booking engine are a glitch by the way.

Ph1l1pncl 26th Jun 2013 10:59

BA-LHR
 
I tweeted BA about the flight reduction and the resulting longer wait at Heathrow and the reply back I received was "It's due to the flight loads, Philip"

Every time I have been on the route the flight has been choca block with passengers, so whether this is true I don't know but thought I would pass on thee response I got.

G-TYNE 26th Jun 2013 11:17

YL-LCL up to no good again, 5hr delay to Larnaca this morning for some poor folk. YL-LCH came up from Gatwick to cover.

fl dutchman 26th Jun 2013 19:51

LHR
 
Ph1l1pncl,

I think the repy you recieved from BA was rubbish. The loads on this service are generaly good. Occasionally you get a quiet flight but I understand the average LF is about 86%.

Some of the ones they are cancelling are the busiest of the day.

Does not make sense from a passenger point of view.

An example of what is happening on some periods is the cancellation of the first flight from LHR.

So anyone flying in to LHR longhaul early morning will have to wait until about 10.00ish to fly up to NCL. A specific example affecting my family is a BA from HKG to LHR arr 04.50 meant to connect up to NCL at 07.20 which has been cancelled and passengers rebooked to NCL about 09.50. So thats a 5hr wait after the long ride from HKG instead of 2.5hrs. Not good.

The cancellation of the 09.20ish to LHR from NCL also is strange as its also a busy flight.

Ph1l1pncl 26th Jun 2013 20:57


Ph1l1pncl,

I think the repy you recieved from BA was rubbish. The loads on this service are generaly good. Occasionally you get a quiet flight but I understand the average LF is about 86%.

Some of the ones they are cancelling are the busiest of the day.

Does not make sense from a passenger point of view.

An example of what is happening on some periods is the cancellation of the first flight from LHR.

So anyone flying in to LHR longhaul early morning will have to wait until about 10.00ish to fly up to NCL. A specific example affecting my family is a BA from HKG to LHR arr 04.50 meant to connect up to NCL at 07.20 which has been cancelled and passengers rebooked to NCL about 09.50. So thats a 5hr wait after the long ride from HKG instead of 2.5hrs. Not good.

The cancellation of the 09.20ish to LHR from NCL also is strange as its also a busy flight.
Exactly, i was puzzled by the response also as every flight I have been on has been virtually full. Plus even if the flight loads were low at the moment they have until November- January- March for them to fill up so taking them off for that reason seems very premature to me at the moment.

JonnyH 28th Jun 2013 20:46

Surely YL-LCL hasn't went tech AGAIN? 4th time in just over 2 weeks if so..

Charlie98 29th Jun 2013 08:51

G-JMCG has positioned into NCL, not sure if G-FCLK has gone tech

nclops 29th Jun 2013 09:16

CG has positioned in to operate the TCX6038 to BOJ delayed from last night after YLLCL suffered further tech problems last night in MAH.

Mnj1 29th Jun 2013 16:50

May be worth mentioning, but I spotted a team of virgin Atlantic Reps in the area today.

Charlie98 29th Jun 2013 18:49

I honestly doubt any form of VS flights from NCL, be they long haul or short :rolleyes:

MATELO 29th Jun 2013 20:25

Virgin could do the summer routes

NCL - Mexico

NCL - Florida

and could do NCL - NYC

Charlie98 29th Jun 2013 20:31

When i've thought again, i know this is all speculation however, but maybe with Richard Branson's affiliation with the North, Virgin Money taking over Northern Rock and the other things they have up here, it could work, and i would love to see VS aircraft at NCL - but i highly doubt it

Daily Dalaman Dave 29th Jun 2013 21:58

MnJ1

So what do VS "reps" look like, and when you say "in the area" where do you mean exactly?

Very odd comments, especially when your info says you are from Weymouth!? :confused:

Flyit Pointit Sortit 30th Jun 2013 00:21

So these "VS Reps" were nothing at all to do with the Virgin Money Cyclone challenge taking place (largest cycling event in the country apparently)??? It used to be sponsored by Northern Rock, but we all know what happened there!!


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