Most of the reductions were accommodated into multiple daily routes. NCL is only once daily. 240 pax ? what load factor is that ? It must be cargo keeping that afloat.

Average load factors are 50%

Boris Look at other UK Emirates routes.....all the same this time of the year.....hence DXB/Emirates has decided to do runway work May/June next year!

Load factor
 

EK to NCL's loads for April (I couldn't get May) = 76%

16596/60= 277 (rounded up)

277/364 = 76%

So no need for the negativity, we need to realize that things don't come in a flash, EK knew when they put the 77W on the route that it would not be +80% route within weeks

Charlie98

It's a 428 seat aircraft? So 277/428 = 64% based on those numbers

April
 

I make it 68% - 42 x 428 seats and 18 x 360 in April per libhomeradar

In fact I think some 354 seat aircraft operated as well so probably a bit higher.

May was different, I think just three 428 seat aircraft.

Pete

DXB
 

Is this flight not operates by a mix of 428 and 364 seat aircraft. So the load factor will lie somewhere between 64 and 76%.

May loads for comparison. All based on the usual type operating:

MAN: 55196 passengers @ 71.5% loads
BHX: 34925 passengers @ 65.8% loads
GLA: 26370 passengers @ 58.4% loads
NCL: 12918 passengers @ 47.9% loads.

I would hope there's been the odd 3 class aircraft being flown as it could be construed as a waste of the 2 class 77W going to NCL by some people. if so, loads could be improved to 56% or so. But I daresay the cargo capability is being well utilised so more than justifying the use of it on the route.

DXB
 

Sorry didn't see OltonPetes reply. Is that not a respectable figure under the circumstances.

I'm sure EK rarely operate the larger capacity AC into NCL

Larger capacity means only business class and economy class being sold. Only GLA and MAN are scheduled for first class passengers in the regions; if NCL gets a low capacity aircraft, you need to remember the first class seats aren't being sold. This is one instance where less (seats) is more (profits).

The route is scheduled as a 2 class 777 with 428 seats. At times, we do get 3 class 777s but it makes no difference to the loads (47.9 as by the information posted by ringway man).

Yes but we rarely get the high density aircraft, we normally get the low density one! :ugh:

NCL regularly get the 428 seat 2 class. NCL rarely gets the 448 seat 2 class.

DXB
 

So from the last few posts it would appear that the LF was about 68% in April, with about 56% in May, based on a percentage of actual seats available to seats actualy filled.

However we all know thats not the full story.

Cargo does appear to be the main factor keeping this service going, however if that is the case and the cargo loads are as high as stated then it would seem odd to put a smaller aircraft back on the route even with as many empty seats.

I thought LFs were only going up though I'm sure the 12 thousand was a typo for May

Emirates
 

From post 3877

Aren't May/June normally low? I've sort of lost track of what all the fuss is about.

NCL is punching well above its weight by having a 400 seater widebody operating a daily long haul (anybody think of a smaller airport in this position?) and if EK feel the need to revert to a smaller a/c for all/some/none (anything actually confirmed yet?!?) of the winter season, don't particularly see a problem if they can make more money with a 77W somewhere else.

If it was a typo, it would have been corrected by now. (It's not by the way, I've checked).

SWBKCB - totally agree.

Boris1 - you are either remarkably well informed, mainly uninformed or just stirring for the sake of it. Care to share which with all of us?

Well informed. Don't personally work at NCL, currently working at a southern drome, but reside from NCL area with contacts at the drome. Anything else you wish to know? Shoe size, waist size? Is this what you get for sharing information and contributing to a post. Maybe I won't bother sharing anything I hear and let speculation continue.