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alex207 21st Jun 2013 14:54

Why was there a AF A320 at NCL?

fl dutchman 21st Jun 2013 18:22

LHR
 
Re the statistics a few posts back from Jamesair. They are very positive except for the LHR service that had one rotation cancelled nearly every day in May.

Unfortunatley the LHR service will experience more cancellations later this year some weeks in Nov, Dec, Jan,and March I believe. Mainly one rotation per day but with "2 daily rotations" being cut for a period of 3 wks in March. Customers are being notified now of the situation. They can re book, have a refund or accept the changes in most cases which involves an earlier flight from NCL resulting in an extra 2hrs or so on to the connection times at LHR.

So its likely that this will result in a negative effect on passenger numbers and could cancel out much of any growth.

I dont believe its due to a lack of passengers as I understand average LF is in the high eighties and yields are good, however I have heard its because of a shortage of aircraft???? anyone know why.

Quite worrying trend is this not NCLs busiest route. The first flight from LHR of the day and the 09.20ish from NCL to LHR are amongst those cancelled on some periods. Surely these are busy flights and important for connections. Not good if the first flight arrives from LHR at about 11 am.

fl dutchman 22nd Jun 2013 11:30

LHR
 
Re above post.

Just found out the same is happening on LHR to ABZ, MAN, LBA and probably EDI and GLA also.

CentreFix25 23rd Jun 2013 07:20

Mentioned elsewhere that the Emirates operation will return to an A330 for the last 3 months of this year - is this correct?

ash666 23rd Jun 2013 08:34

I've just done a dummy booking for November and it suggests that it would be a A330-200 on the way out and the 777 return.

GrahamK 23rd Jun 2013 08:40

Just checked a random few dates, all showing 77W operation?

ash666 23rd Jun 2013 08:48

From the Emirates website:

DEPARTING 08 Nov 13 Newcastle, United Kingdom to Dubai, United Arab Emirates
Flight
Depart / Arrive
Time
Airport
Duration / Stops
Class / Aircraft
EK0036
Fri
08 Nov 13
13:35 Newcastle Airport (NCL) 6hr 15min
0 Stops Economy
Airbus
Industrie
A330-200
Fri
08 Nov 13
23:50 Dubai International Airport (DXB)
RETURNING 15 Nov 13 Dubai, United Arab Emirates to Newcastle, United Kingdom
Flight
Depart / Arrive
Time
Airport
Duration / Stops
Class / Aircraft
EK0035
Fri
15 Nov 13
07:40 Dubai International Airport (DXB) 7hr 55min
0 Stops Economy
Boeing 777-300ER
Fri
15 Nov 13
11:35 Newcastle Airport (NCL)

GrahamK 23rd Jun 2013 08:52

Yeah I see that now, seems to be random days as an A330, and others as a 77W

Sam Chipperfield 23rd Jun 2013 09:14

EK
 
That is in November, It could easily Change back to a 777 by then, im sure the A330's are being phased out this Year and Next Year?

Boris1 23rd Jun 2013 10:38

There's still 20+ A330s in the fleet. So I doubt they'll all be shelved with in a year.

NCIS 23rd Jun 2013 12:09

SAS 737
 
Hi - It looked to have brought in a load of Norwegian school kids.

fl dutchman 23rd Jun 2013 18:48

Emirates DXB
 
It looks like all outbound flights throughout the winter schedule are A330-200.

However the inbounds to NCL are currently showing 777ER.

Possibly the booking system is in the process of changing. The inbounds will probably be changed to A330 in time meaning the service will revert to an Airbus for the entire winter?

Of course all the outbounds could change back to a 777ER. We will find out in due course, but it seems the A330s are back for at least 5 months.

N707ZS 23rd Jun 2013 21:11

Why is there such a diffrence in the flight times? 6h 15min one way 7h 55min the other.

Charlie98 23rd Jun 2013 21:38

I've took a look at the EK timetable, and on there is it still down as the 77W (on the same day a dummy book says A330) so it could just be a system fault? By god lets hope.

Arnt the loads getting to the high end of the A330 capacity now? Also the route hasn't been 77W for long and Emirates are always boasting how good he 77W is on the route.

Only time will tell.

EK77WNCL 23rd Jun 2013 21:45

I can say pretty much 100% it will stay 777 300ER, how can the possibly send a 77W in in the morning and have an A332 going out an hour and half later??? But this has happened twice before, the end of last year and February this year were down as being an A330 but it has always simply been a system error on the EK website and it's been updated back to the 77W.

Also, OT but the A330's will still be around for a while, the A343's were supposed to have been long gone about 18 months ago and they're still with them.

Martin

HH6702 23rd Jun 2013 23:15

EK
 
Could we not be seeing the flight extended to NYC?

A330 outwards 777 Rtn

I know it will never happen and I'm sure it's a system fault but you never know and yet again this rumour hasn't been said for a good few weeks so thought I would start it again!!!!!

Also new management company at airport so maybe?

Lol

Heathrow Harry 24th Jun 2013 07:47

"Why is there such a diffrence in the flight times? 6h 15min one way 7h 55min the other."

Winter wind allowance, maybe different routing - plus you can pretty much guarantee there will be a straight in at NCL whereas Dubai is a lot busier and you may have to fly around the houses

Last winter I did LHR-SIN rtn - 13-10 one way 15-15 coming back................

N707ZS 24th Jun 2013 09:02

Thanks Harry.

10 DME ARC 24th Jun 2013 12:33

Nice to see NCL-DXB staying daily next May when Emirates have to reduce services for eight week DXB runway closure. Show's at least Emirates have faith in the route.......:ok:

Boris1 24th Jun 2013 16:39

Recently loads have barely went above 240. So whatever they send won't make a different to pax. Just Cargo. From what I've heard, A330 ops for winter is a very good possibility. Will post more as I have it


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