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Shamrogue 31st Jan 2008 08:46

OH help!
 
I'm due to go DUB -YVR in May. I called Fly Globe and they said absolutely positively it will be a 767. Now I asked this specifically after the reports in here as I don't want to end up on a 737 or even a 757. Long time on either.
Can anyone tell me will it or won't it be a 767? Or is it just more rubbish?

Cheerio

Shamrogue

webby1919 31st Jan 2008 10:03

YVR and YYC flights will all operate on B763ER A/C for S08. The B752 will operate some flights from GLA-SFB, but will be replaced with a B763ER around late-May 08, when Summer season is in full swing.

No plans to operate B737s on longhaul routes. Only way they would use this is for a rescue flight.

gavin360 31st Jan 2008 10:27

sorry guys but i have been on a fgs 757 from glasgow to sanford and from bfs to sanford in 2007 both times with no refuel

GSM SCOT 31st Jan 2008 19:33

Tell The truth !
 
It does tell you the truth, on the website the following notice is included on the outbound flight section.

"Although unlikely, flights may require a brief fuel stop en route subject to weather conditions on the day"

The 757 can fly direct to SFB without a fuel stop, has done so many times.

GW76 31st Jan 2008 23:06

Lots of inaccuracies here
The data provided was for a 757-300- completely irrelevent here
A 757 has maximum range of 3900 miles ( see Boeing website for RR powered 757-200
The minimum distance GLA to Orlando is a mere 3500 nm ( albeit additional distance maybe required depending on Atlantic track)
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc...l?p1=90&p2=867
The take off characteristics, runway elevation and ambient summer temperatures show no comparison between the German example and Glasgow.
:ugh:

StoneyBridge Radar 31st Jan 2008 23:54

Spin the spin.

The figures were an approximate ball park figure, seeing as the figures were based on a 2-class config., and were not from the -300. Not sure where you deduced that.

And to quote the shortest minimum distance is, to coin your phrase, completely irrelevent. Show me one occassion when that has ever been possible. You add the rider "additional distance maybe required" when in fact it will ALWAYS be required. And we must also hope GSM manage to keep hold of ETOPS this year. Let's flip a coin, eh?

Try using this more useful mapper and key in whatever ETOPS limits you like.

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=G...YLE=&ETOPS=120

Fact is, your kidding the travelling public into believing yet again that their flights will be non-stop, when empirical and historical data/evidence indicates almost emphatically this will not be the case.

Just be honest!

mm0wkj 1st Feb 2008 10:44

The flight today (GLS-BFS-SFB) is a 757..... With a stop in Bangour for fuel. non ETOPS routing.

StoneyBridge Radar 1st Feb 2008 13:16


The flight today (GLS-BFS-SFB) is a 757..... With a stop in Bangour for fuel. non ETOPS routing.
So pax boarding at GLA get the pleasure of 3 landings, an extended non ETOPS routing and a late arrival in SFB. :D

luvly jubbly 1st Feb 2008 13:51

Well i did say back in post #60 that the 763 is away til 3rd Feb, so of course it's the 757 today.

All friday flights to SFB are via BFS, and are being sold as such.... I don't really see what the surprise is!:ugh:

Ps...Just to keep the merger/buyout/flotation rumours going, here's an excerpt from an insider.co.uk interview with TD.
"Given that we want to continue with the expansion programme we must now look at flotations, outside investment, and mergers.
At the moment we are talking to large international scheduled airlines and will be looking at other ways to bring in outside partners."

PPs Jet 2...... Best of luck with the New York route!

LJ

luvly jubbly 1st Feb 2008 14:33

Flight Information - Arrivals
Sanford, FL
FlyGlobespan 725
Glasgow, UK 3:30pm Now 5:00pm
Belfast, UK

Excel Airways 124
London / Gatwick 3:45pm Now 6:30pm


At least we aren't the only late flight in today!:rolleyes:

mm0wkj 1st Feb 2008 16:47

GSM725 may not have been the only one late but it was one of the few to leave anywhere near its departure time this morning?.

I presume they are leaving the timings as they are for now as they have a catch up period with a stop over on Fri evening in SFB for the return flight.

Do you know if that will change when the turn arounds get shorter from Mid March?

4567 3rd Feb 2008 11:18

Have GSM cut there fleet of 737-600's down to 2 from 4 according to there website they only operate 2 737-600's & 300's or is that only for the winter ?

4567 3rd Feb 2008 11:20

Have GSM cut there fleet of 737-600's to 2 from 4 according to there website they operate 2 737-600's & 300's or is that only for the winter or just a typo ?


luvly jubbly 3rd Feb 2008 12:52

4567 Correct. At least thet's what we're told!

From my previous post #47
"2 questions......

Why does G-CEJO still not have winglets?

Where are the 2 736s disappearing off to?"

LJ

4567 3rd Feb 2008 15:56

Somebody must have read our posts LJ there now showing on there website that they operate 4 Boeing 737-600's !

Will they have 4 operating in summer 08 though ? Or will it be
5 737-800's= GLA
2 737-600's=EDI
2 737-700's= 1 EDI,1 ABZ
2 737-300's= 1 EDI,1 MME ?

GW76 3rd Feb 2008 17:27

There will be at least 1x 733 at GLA S08

LES353 3rd Feb 2008 21:12

Someone on another website forum has mentioned that the 767 is due back to glasgow tomorrow. Is this going to be used from now on or will they still be operating a 757, does anyone know :confused:

dicanio10 3rd Feb 2008 21:28

Les - I've heard that too. Hope so, we go on March 1st. The alternative 757-200 is the only 757 that GSM own and it's the one that had problems in Sanford last month. It's been fixed but the missus is a bit wary so we're hoping the 767 is back:hmm:

webby1919 4th Feb 2008 10:13

Looks like G-CDRA/G-CDRB are to be sold off.

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.asp...an&dataindex=4
http://www.caa.co.uk/application.asp...an&dataindex=5

All to be registered to another owner.

jethro15 4th Feb 2008 12:21


Looks like G-CDRA/G-CDRB are to be sold off.
To be sold and leased back.

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
http://www.jethros.dwsitech.com

LES353 4th Feb 2008 18:29

Any Globespan staff got the latest info re what's happening with the 767, is it likely to be used to do the Sandford run also any news on ETOPS???

mm0wkj 5th Feb 2008 08:27

Chances are that when the summer season gets into full swing (from May) GSM will have leased another 767 to cover so May - Oct will more than likely have the 767 on the SFB routes. They may still throw in the 75 now and again but not unless they have to.

The problems just now are due to them reducing the flights and A/C size because of bums on seats over the winter. Add to that the ETOPS mess and its not something they can sustain when number of flights increase from March.

luvly jubbly 7th Feb 2008 11:23

Well I guess the lucky punters can spread out on the 767 tomorrow to SFB, as the 757 is off to Malaga for the day:D


Edited on 8/2
Ok..... So it's the 757 today, as a ground handler drove into the 767:{:eek:

mm0wkj 7th Feb 2008 13:00

Luvly Jubbly, Have you heard on what progress is being made on getting ETOPS back yet?.

4567 8th Feb 2008 16:30

Why are GSM selling 2 of there 737-600's ?

They now say in there about us section on there website that they operate 2 737-600's insted of 4 are they going to replace these arcraft or are they downsizing there fleet ?

mm0wkj 8th Feb 2008 21:19

According to another post they are selling them and leasing them back.... Money problems???

dicanio10 8th Feb 2008 22:31

Thought they had two 787's on order for next year. Might be off-loading the 738's in readiness. They could lease them out!

GW76 8th Feb 2008 23:09

Cant see them gettimg their 787s next year, and they are not offloading any 737-800's

luvly jubbly 9th Feb 2008 10:14

2 B787s are due in 2010, but Boeing are already announcing delays to the launch customers, so this might get pushed back a bit.

Globespan only owns the 737-600s. All other aircraft are leased.
Two of the 737-600s are being sold.

tristar500 9th Feb 2008 17:05

Have heard that SAS are taking 2 of the -600s back...

What the hell is going on at GSM. Theres a new twist every week... :ugh:

GW76 9th Feb 2008 17:09

SAS will get them at a decent price , have lots of experience with them and obviously need them for demand...so why not....?

JB007 9th Feb 2008 17:42


What the hell is going on at GSM.
Sounds like consolidation...

mm0wkj 9th Feb 2008 21:46

Or in other words... Battening down the hatches before the F-it hits the Sh-an

luvly jubbly 10th Feb 2008 08:55

I think it's a sensible move, to raise cash by getting rid of two of the 600s. They were perfect for AMS and STN from Scotland, but they're pretty useless on many of our routes due to their short range.

dicanio10 10th Feb 2008 11:35

Shame they can't try the EDI-STN route again. Give EZY another run for their money. Don't know why GSM opened that route for one summer only, always seemed full, decent prices. Now EZY charge what they like.:ugh:

CKT789 10th Feb 2008 18:54

Are the two 733's still leaving the fleet in addition to CDRA and CDRB?

GSM SCOT 10th Feb 2008 19:24

737-300's
 
Both 300's will remain for around another 12 months.

4567 10th Feb 2008 19:52

Do GSM plan to replace the 737-300's after the 12 months or will they just leave it and there fleet will be cut down to 13 ?

GSM SCOT 10th Feb 2008 20:40

737-300's
 
They will be replaced by two 737-8/900's

wee pixie 10th Feb 2008 22:23

Is there any hope for us travelling to Sanford on GSM725 in 4 weeks time? :( How on earth are Globespan going to cope with an increase in flights when they can't seem to get even one flight per week there and back without some sort of drama or delay? Will they ever have ETOPS again?

Please can someone tell me things are going to get better.


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