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goldballs 14th Jul 2009 11:43

TCX-Boeing 757
 
I hear on the grapevine that the 2 Thomas Cook A320 based at EMA are to be replaced with Boeing 757 this winter. Anyone know how many and routes for winter ? (if it's true)

Flyboy543 14th Jul 2009 12:38

Last year they operated a B752 on the weekly GLA-EMA-BJL-EMA-GLA route for the winter, possible confusion between that and replacing the based aircraft??

stuart-travel 14th Jul 2009 14:03

Goldtrail
 
Planned programme with ref to Kosmar which Goldtrail has taken on most of the staff,
EMA BD FLIGHTS
LBA JET2 FLIGHTS
NCL JET2 FLIGHTS
BHX MON FLIGHTS
MAN MON FLIGHTS
LGW MON FLIGHTS
BRS VIK FLIGHTS
ALL TO GREEK RESORTS OHY will be on the turkey flights

regards
stuart

Zippy Monster 14th Jul 2009 14:06


I hear on the grapevine that the 2 Thomas Cook A320 based at EMA are to be replaced with Boeing 757 this winter.
Two very good friends of mine fly the A320 for TCX out of EMA and neither of them have heard anything about this. I suspect they'd have heard by now if they were being out-based elsewhere for the winter. May I ask the source of your rumour?

OliWW 14th Jul 2009 21:06

Great news for a new based bmi then, A319/A320 most likely. Though plenty of room in its schedule to operate other flights, though they might use that for tech time. There is also the rumor of TCX getting a A321 and A320 for S10, which makes sense with some reductions in scheduling to Palma and Alicante for S10, maybe they will be increasing the loads :ok: and TCX is also operating DLM, SSH for S10 currently on a Monday with a B752

goldballs 15th Jul 2009 11:16

Hi Zippy, I've heard it from 2 sources. TCX engineering EMA and an "unofficial" briefing at MAN. Although nothing formal has been released, crew and aircraft numbers at EMA would remain as they are now. Having recently converted from 757 to 320 to stay at EMA it wouldn't affect me too much but I know alot of the guys won't want to crossover to 757 (especially those who are also 330 rated) so would have to change base.

I hope it comes to nothing but the sources are pretty reliable. Anyone else have any news on this ?

Flyboy, I am talking based aircraft and crew, not "W" patterns or weeklies from other bases.

paul atkins 15th Jul 2009 16:09

thomas cook group summer 2010
 
flights to alicante and malaga to be operated by bmibaby next year the brochure launched about month ago is going to be reprinted with all the flight details changes cheers paul

OliWW 15th Jul 2009 16:17

TCX always operated AGP from WW or TOM anyway, ALC on a Saturday has been filled with AYT, FUE on a Saturday has also gone and has been replaced with PFO as PFO has gone on a Tuesday due to a W Pattern for the PMI flights, thats all thats changed for TCX for S10 currently

finding_nema 15th Jul 2009 16:46

Considering that we are actually reducing the number of 757-200s in our fleet, and that none of the legacy-MYT guys are current on that aircraft type, I'd be very surprised if we were to get rid of the Airbus from EMA. I've not heard anything about the A321 coming to the base, but do know that all of our new-entrants at EMA this year have been trained on both the 320 and 321.

Also, the BJL flights are being operated from BHX this year, with a BHX-based aircraft and crew.

paul atkins 16th Jul 2009 06:03

thomas cook 2010
 
oliww bmibaby have never operated flights for thomas cook before in the last two years they used futura and thomsons i dont think any major tour operator have used baby from ema. the brochures where printed that early this year and launched later then normal there are alot of flights not just ema that have since been changed

Jet2 16th Jul 2009 10:47

Snow Owl

Many posts are posted in the wrong forums on Pprune. The Moderators are constantly having to correct this but do not have nearly enough time to respond to everyone who's post has been removed. Don't take it personally.

This particular thread has a long history of posts from spotters but is not intended for that, under the Airlines, Airports and Routes title. Pics of what you have seen at EMA are welcome to many, but posted in the dedicated Spotters Corner forum.

Hope this explains it.

commit aviation 16th Jul 2009 18:43

Regarding the 757 rumour, I believe there is to be a "regional" 757 operating through EMA to SSH. It then positions elsewhere (LBA I think) to do LBA-SSH-LBA & then on again to operate I imagine another SSH.
Maybe it spends a couple of days in EMA between these SSH runs but I don't know.

OliWW 16th Jul 2009 20:58

The B757 TCX is down for these flights so far for S10

Monday
(D) TCX451K 08:00 Sharm El Sheikh
(A) TCX451L 20:30 Sharm El Sheikh
(D) TCX638K 21:30 Dalaman

Tuesday
(A) TCX638L 07:15 Dalaman

Scallywag 22nd Jul 2009 14:06

Speed Cameras - Beware
 
Just driven home past DHL and there are 2 sets of average speed cameras installed on lamposts. Anyone know when they were installed and whether they are active yet or not ?

NJTCF 22nd Jul 2009 14:15

EMA Average Speed Cameras!!!!
 
They were installed on monday. Ive been told they are real wether they are active yet i dont know. Theres also two on the east approach road. Im waiting to bump into the police who operate on the airport to ask them.

FlyboyUK 22nd Jul 2009 16:30

Haven't seen them yet but they could be ANPR cameras as are fitted and many airports nowdays to monitor vehicles?

Scallywag 22nd Jul 2009 16:48

The ANPR cameras have been there for a long time and are signposted as such as you enter the airport.

These are labelled "Average Speed Camera" so clearly NOT ANPR.

OliWW 22nd Jul 2009 16:53

So are the cameras near DHL actually switched on yet, if they were installed on Monday?

INKJET 22nd Jul 2009 17:12

There was a wrecked (looked like an Astra) a few week back at the DHL entrance East bound, looked like it had crunched the islands, i have had a black M3 or M5 overtake me on the wrong side of the bollards and i was doing 50!! the driver was staff.

I understood that the airport is private land and that the speed limit's can not be enforced on the public, however anyone with a staff car park pass will have agreed to be bound by the terms of use of the pass which will probably include compling with speed limits, i must drive slowly next time i am passing DHL and have a look

When is the wind turbine coming? they can use it to power the new camera's and why have they chopped all the tree's down on the right past DHL East bound, another green measure?

OliWW 22nd Jul 2009 17:35

Inital plans for the wind turbines were for them to be completed by Spring 2008. Its now Summer 2009. So unless the plans were blown away, I cannot see the airport ground becoming carbon neutral by 2012. More like Winter of 2019. However with the introduction of the noise reduction scheme, its almost like these plans have gone completely.

SouthDerbyshire1969 22nd Jul 2009 18:32

Regarding the cameras, whether they actually work in the same way as the Specs cameras which are littered around the M1 and Notts im not 100% sure but seeing as theres hardly anything to them...talk about bloody small! then i cant see them being in the same league as the Specs for capturing info.

I did alittle digging and found that the ANPR cams work of the Pips technology (spike cams) also in their range they do a speed detection camera but it doesnt look anything like what the airport has installed so :confused: as far as im aware the only average speeds camera's in the country are the Specs systems and the Spike Pips system but searching on various speed camera databases the Pips systems arent used anyway unless its just for ANPR use so again :confused:

What gets my back up is the fact that..

1. The cams are so bloody small you cant see them until your right next to them (even if they are yellow) ive spoke to people that have looked for them and still missed them!

2.The warning sign for the cameras is also on the same lamp post as the camera! which from a legal point of view is clearly wrong + the sign is way to small!

So i cant wait to hear what the airport has to say about all this :rolleyes:

NJTCF 22nd Jul 2009 22:59

EMA Average speed Cameras. Wind Turbines.
 
INKJET The wrecked car a few weeks back did not make it under the DHL Barrier the guy must have been tailgating someone and the barrier came down on the car what a mess. Car looked a write off.

Agree the average speed signs are far to small and there is only one in each direction where as there shud be a second one before the second camera in the direction you are heading and as South Derby says technically these are positioned wrong still waiting to bump into the police on the airport to ask them. could not see any infra red light in them last night aswell so maybe not working just yet and they are well small........

Wondered if where all the trees had been knocked down was where one of the wind turbines was going but looking on the airport webbsite they look to be the north of the road but cant get it to enlarge so not sure. Does seem a hell of a waste of decent trees must have chopped down well over a 100 the only other thing i could think of was they were enlarging the water storage pool which is near there. or a bigger play area for all the rabbits:ok:

INKJET 23rd Jul 2009 12:10

NJCTF
 
I wondered about the pond, but they have left some trees between the pond and the bit they have cut down, also very good of them to put in 20 metres of new tarmac walk way between the zebra and the car park to save the 30 metres that you had to walk before!! must have money to burn, full health and safety fence as well.

Carmera's the camera are very small and as yet no markings on the road, the sign's say average speed check they are set either side of the DHL complex so i guess they don't cover the rest of the site, the signs need to be way bigger to have an effect, having stuck bang on 30 as was overtaken by 3 cars and two Merc sprinters

NJTCF 23rd Jul 2009 21:22

EMA Average Speed Check.
 
INKJET

Yes its quite fun sticking to 30mph down there because you get all sorts of abuse shouted at you for going so slow lol. A lorry was attemting to overtake me the other day until he saw those bollards in the middle of the road:ugh:. With an average speed check dont think they have lines in the road think they work on a fixed point/object but im sure theres an expert out there which would confirm this. Think the one down the east entrance will get a few more drivers if its working as its a fast straight im going in threw the main entance from now on.

Still think it would make a good rabbit play area where the trees have been knocked down, maybe they could round up all the rabbits/hares in one area. :ok:.

First Bag 23rd Jul 2009 21:49

Surely the best place to get speeding drivers will be from the Prestige valeting building up near to the terminal and their hangar in the maintenance area. If any of them are doing below 50 mph I will be amazed.Ive seen them spin cars and overtake each other just on Dakota road and thats how these numbskulls treat other peoples cars. While I am on about Prestige I see he has a unit on the Ind Est towards the east end of the airport with about 50 cars outside. Under cover parking I believe he advertises!

Mr Angry from Purley 24th Jul 2009 11:04

For those not interested in wind turbines and the old Bill make a note 8/9 September DHK 767-300ERF with wing tips should be delivered / crew training
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INKJET 24th Jul 2009 12:43

No chance busting the limit this weekend, an hour to get off site!! it MOTO GP weekend lol

NJTCF 24th Jul 2009 15:47

Download was better Organised than this And There was Not that Much traffic today just seemed no one knew where to go:ugh:. Hate to think what it will be like sunday. Thankfully going no where near the place tomorrow.

:ok:Good to hear about the DHL 767s.

EGAC_Ramper 28th Jul 2009 10:15

Ryanair Canary Islands
 
Looking on the Ryanair routes map alongside Tenerife South we now have Gran Canaria and Lanzarote showing aswell. Ain't looked into whent hey are starting but I'm sure someone will take the time to check that out.


Regards:ok:

OliWW 29th Jul 2009 12:13

New Routes Confirmed
 
New Destinations for Ryanair - Gran Canaria (LPA) and Lanzarote (ACE)

Las Palmas
Wednesday
FR3162 07:00 - 11:20 EMA-LPA
FR3163 11:45 - 16:15 LPA-EMA

Sunday
FR3162 06:40 - 11:00 EMA-LPA
FR3163 11:25 - 15:55 LPA-EMA

Lanzarote
Tuesday
FR3172 06:20 - 10:30 EMA-ACE
FR3173 10:55 - 15:25 ACE-EMA

Friday
FR3172 13:15 - 17:25 EMA-ACE
FR3173 17:50 - 22:20 ACE-EMA

Tenerife has also gone from 2x weekly to 3x Weekly with flights on a Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday :ok: Good News for EMA.

sam1993 30th Jul 2009 10:13

Looking on the Kiss Flights website it seems Viking Airlines will be operating a couple of flights to the Greek islands next summer on W-legs from Bristol. :ok:

NJTCF 12th Aug 2009 17:19

Saga Monday Night.
 
The above has been operated by an A321 the last 2 Monday nights.

Nothing else to report just VERY Quiet hate to think what the winter is going to be like especially on a saturday.

The only thing at the moment that seems to be incresing is the Bunny Population theres 100s of them:)

paul atkins 13th Aug 2009 07:05

kiss flights
 
a few more routes announced by kiss kos,rhodes,zante,tenerife already announced heraklion and sharm hopefuly few more to come

OliWW 13th Aug 2009 13:02

The last I heard on the matter is that bmi were basing a aircraft operating flights for Kiss and Goldtrail, but flights are now on the Kiss Flights website are showing flights operating with Viking. Goldtrail are still showing BD flights for Corfu, Heraklion, Zakynthos, Kos and Rhodes, however this may change with VIK now operating them for Kiss as well. Most flights operate on a BRS based aircraft apart from RHO on a Wednesday which is a LGW based aircraft

Monday
Corfu - However no flights are loading (VIK)

Tuesday
HER-EMA 14:00 - 16:20 VIK922
EMA-HER 17:35 - 23:50 VIK921

Wednesday
SSH-EMA 08:00 - 12:05 KBR1410
EMA-SSH 12:55 - 20:35 KBR1411

KGS-EMA 13:55 - 16:30 VIK932
EMA-KGS 17:20 - 23:30 VIK931

RHO-EMA 12:25 - 14:55 VIK937
EMA-RHO 16:15 - 22:30 VIK936

Friday
TFS-EMA 11:20 - 15:50 VIK954
EMA-TFS 17:15 - 21:55 VIK953

Saturday
Kefalonia - to be announced shortly, operates on a "w" from BRS

Sunday
ZTH-EMA 11:30 - 13:30 VIK972
EMA-ZTH 14:45 - 20:30 VIK971

UPS@EMA 14th Aug 2009 10:18

Just been looking on the routes development forum, and noticed the EMA is stating the they have 20 routes unserved that they feel should be or could be. Does anyone have any insider knowledge on the potential routes. Im still awaiting my mate to contact me, so thought id throw it out onto the boards.

Cheers

Stu

The Real Slim Shady 14th Aug 2009 12:14

Following the early bath of UKIA ( not the airport's fault, the plan was never going to work with that airframe and MK at the helm), the airport is still hungry for a scheduled long haul service.

Regrettably, until the disembarkation / embarkation scrum on the main apron, and the struggle to and through immigration, can be resolved, it looks like being a long wait.

OliWW 17th Aug 2009 14:59

Been looking at the arrivals board today and noticed two random flights
TOM83D which was operating CFU - MAN, B733, G-THOL, landed at EMA at 13:25, and have now come across TOM80E which was operating CFU - MAN, B752, G-OOBC which landed at 15:37

Anyone know why, as its not on their flight schedule?

NJTCF 17th Aug 2009 15:11

Diverts......
 
Diverts from MAN. Long delays getting into Man. but not sure why wether down to a one runway operation or some other reason.

Cathy 747 Also Div in.

Probably all needed Juice:ok: Strong head wind today for flights comming from the east.

OliWW 17th Aug 2009 17:14

Was also meaning to ask what charter flights are operated during the winter with TOM, TCX and any others on what days etc...

Beavis and Butthead 18th Aug 2009 22:39

Nothing to do with headwinds. Runway surface of 23R at Manchester was breaking up on the touchdown zone resulting in the closure of that runway. Because of the lack of taxiways on 23L, only 3 aircraft could land at a time to allow them all to backtrack, hence causing big holding delays that none of us had planned for.


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