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Centre cities 12th May 2009 20:28

Ryanair
 
I hope the other routes are released but expected by who, a relaible source or a rumour.


Centre cities

aidoair 12th May 2009 20:41

Will be surprising if PMI and REU are announced for winter. There will be too much capacity if they do, obviously at least on the PMI route as both baby and easyJet operate here over the winter months, as well as a reduced amount of charter flights. This combined with less demand during the winter season and the current climate would surely not make sense ?

odogo2 13th May 2009 08:54

freight figures
 
Has anyone any idea how the freight side of things has been doing during the recession?Passed the Airport yesterday and there were 2 AN124s in they carry huge loads, is the Airport holding up ok?

Balair 13th May 2009 09:14

Freight Figures
 
odogo2

All the info you need is on the airport's website.

On the home page click on "doing business with us", then "cargo" and then open the "the dedicated cargo website"

Total freight, including mail for Mar is showing 25,714 tonnes, an increase of 3.9% on 2008.

EGAC_Ramper 13th May 2009 20:50

Aeen today a third AN124 arriving inn as we taxied by for departure. Certainly was a sight seeing those 3 beasties all lined up.


Regards

odogo2 14th May 2009 08:59

Thanks Balair,
These figures are quite impressive considering the current situation,I suppose the moving of the F1 teams to the far east may have helped

BHX5DME 16th May 2009 19:16

EMA Freight Figures
 
261,000 tonnes in 2008, second only to Heathrow in the UK


http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...rator_2008.pdf

Nimrod6 18th May 2009 07:25

EMA Cargo
 
FYI on the freight stats, 261,000 only includes freight, i.e. not mail. 2008 saw around 295,000 tonnes of cargo (freight + mail).

OliWW 21st May 2009 16:52

Im looking for a Cargo timetable on Saturdays and Sundays over the summer, if someone has got a rough indication of the flight times is it possible to PM me?

Cheers

ATNotts 21st May 2009 18:08

Cargo Timetable
 
Oli,

I would have PM-ed you, but you don't accept them, so hopefully the Mods won't object if I direct you "publicly" to Airport Timetables UK.

"google" that and you will probably find what you are looking for, but I don't know if the data is yet available for S09

OliWW 21st May 2009 18:27

Cheers, and yes, I noticed it the other day, I've just changed it :ok:

wired2fly 22nd May 2009 14:39

anyone know what the twin prop current buzzing Nottingham city centre is up to? It was doing the same last week IIRC.

scr1 29th May 2009 20:36

is the EMA-INV flt getting droperd as it seams you can not book after middle of july?

aidoair 29th May 2009 21:40

Thats surprising, it was put on sale within their winter routes from EMA and bookable throughout the summer just a couple of weeks ago. . .

valefan16 3rd Jun 2009 22:38

Are Saga operating two flights per week into EMA with the 738's this summer both on an evening?

paul atkins 4th Jun 2009 05:53

saga
 
yes they are operating two flights per week with the second flight starting on 29/6 operating to Dalaman on the down side goldcrest have now cancelled all flights to the greek islands which should of started next month

NJTCF 4th Jun 2009 11:54

Balkan Holidays / Turkish Flights.
 
Stuart/Paul

Could you confirm how many flights a week there are to Bulgaria this summer?

Is there going to be a Freebird flight on a monday night or is this being operated by Saga?

And when does the Sun Express start on a sunday.

Thanks.

Otherewise the airport is Very Quiet nothing to report No Rumours.

OliWW 4th Jun 2009 13:48

2x Bourgas flights, operated by BH air, Thursdays and Sundays, and Varna on Saturdays.

Sun Express starts on 5th or 12th July

Koral Blue operates for Kiss flights starting on 1st July and now seems to be available throughout the winter as well! Which is operated using an A319

Monarch are now operating Dalaman and Sharm El Sheikh with a second Dalaman starting soon

VLM start operating Donegal in July as well, 12th?

There also seems to be a AEA flight on a Sunday now, 11.20 arrive, 12.20 departure, operating for TCX.

Ryanair start Reus and Palma in July, but loose Beauvais

bmi have a based A320/A321 from Middle of July - September, operating routes including Corfu, Dalaman, Fuerteventura, Palma, Ibiza, Tenerife, Lanzarote

Thomson have extra PMI flights on Fri/Sat evening throughout July, August and September

Seems to be about all the route news I can think of for the coming months

For the Winter, Hamburg Intl are back operating Banjul with an A319

stuart-travel 4th Jun 2009 15:14

turkey flights
 
Scottravel holidays closed as of 4/6/09

may alter some turkey flights


regards
stuart

SAM-EMA 8th Jun 2009 20:32

FR Cutting INV
 
EMA - Inverness ends 15 July.

Another lost FR route to add to the ever growing list, somehow PMI and REU do not fully compensate for all the routes that have gone, including SNN, ORK, LDY, MAD, FUE, SCQ, POZ, BVA and possibly others.

SAM-EMA

egnxema 9th Jun 2009 12:40

Sam

Routes that dont make money always have a countdown timer next to them.

While having an enthusiams for your local airport is good, dont be blinded to the basic business facts of running an airline. If people wont buy the seats, airlines wont fly the routes.

EMA's direct route network is still very healthy, and FR are the major reason why. As/When things pick up economoically you can be sure FR will open up new destinations, possibly ressurect ones that are not paying in these lean times.

ATNotts 9th Jun 2009 17:15

EGNXEMA

Exactly - spot on!

NJTCF 10th Jun 2009 17:33

FR Cutting Prague.
 
Last Flight Bookable is the 14th of July 2009:(.

Will leave only EZY On this Route.

Cheers.

OliWW 10th Jun 2009 17:56

I do not understand that at all, they had 4 flights a week for the Summer to Prague. It seems to me that they arent very good at planning routes, advertising routes and fitting routes into the timetable, because now there will be an aircraft sitting on the ground until about 12pm, and then with the loss of INV will be an aircraft on the ground 4 days a week from 4pm till 7pm ish

egnxema 11th Jun 2009 10:51

OliWW - are you and SAM best mates?

The reason FR have chopped PRG is that there are no longer big groups of lads with the pocket cash to go on the lash for the weekend in PRG. The market has shrunk.

There is no way that any reasonable person, airline employee or enthusiast, can say that FR do not know how to advertise, schedule or make their fleet work for them.

Please! Keep with the program.

Here's a tip for all armchair "Route Planners" - read the business sections of your local and regional press. Know the corporates in the EMA region, feel the pulse of where the general travelling public in the EMA region is feeling like they have cash in their pocket to splash on a weekend away (ie house prices are going up) or if they are feeling poor (ie house prices going down and a number of local business closing/announcing redundancies). Many people may not actually be less well off than they were a year ago, but the certainly FEEL poorer and less likely to treat themselves.

Learning to do this will help all armchair airline route planners to better understand sound business decissions of FR EZY WW and EMA, and alsio make the watching more interesting.

This is not a dig - in no way am I wanting to wet OliWW and SAM's enthusiasm for all things EMA - but guys.........keep it real ay??

:ok:

OliWW 11th Jun 2009 14:55

I havent got a problem with Ryanair dropping a number of routes, I just cannot believe they planned a flight 4x Weekly, so with so many flights, they were obviously expecting it to be popular, but then it going the other way and them dropping it, that is what I cannot understand. Yes we are in a recession so you can understand some routes not being popular as they used to be, but thanks for your feedback egnxema :)

SAM-EMA 11th Jun 2009 15:15

My post was simply to confirm the loss of the INV route. I then chose to point out what routes have also been lost. At no point did I suggest any reasoning or anything related to the business of the airline / current situation. I'm certainly not disputing the loss of the routes were perfectly justified. I simply collated a list of lost routes. I fail to see what was so wrong with that.

SAM-EMA

INKJET 11th Jun 2009 17:52

Ryanair PRG
 
I am surprised at Ryanair coming off this route, given their alledged lower cost base and WW already off the route i would have thought it would support both Easy and Ryanair?

PRG is of course an expensive airport to operate into and i am sure Ryanair are not cutting because they are making money on it!

On a broader note is it something the airport operators worry about to have Ryanair come on to routes and drive other airlines off them for Ryanair to then pull off the route?

INKJET 17th Jun 2009 16:06

baby back to Prague for winter 09
 
Just announced EMA-PRG from Dec until March 2010 weekends + extra for Xmas

Binder 19th Jun 2009 11:45

Or perhaps East Midlands pax just don't want to fly RYR...
even if the tickets are £0.99!!

Binder

HeliCraig 19th Jun 2009 11:48


Or perhaps East Midlands pax just don't want to fly RYR...
even if the tickets are £0.99!!
Yep.. nail on head I suspect. Certainly for me RYR is very much last chance saloon. Always check their price, but massively loather to undergo the "RYR experience."

super737 19th Jun 2009 23:37

Or perhaps, FR made a sound decision. How well is it going for U2? Yields not bums on seats count. Ryr have tried several routes and unfortunatley people weren't travelling!

"The last chance saloon", Helicraig FR provide some of the cheapest most efficient air travel to the airline industry with one of the highest on time performances. So even thought their your last resort you still check them for prices:E So you must look at them first and compare??

The flying harp will outlive the flying scouser (orange)

Zippy Monster 20th Jun 2009 00:09

Flying Scouser?! Last time I checked, easyJet was founded by a Greek and is based in Luton, nowhere near Merseyside...

easyJet must have been doing alright on EMA-Prague if Ryanair decided they wanted a piece of the action as well. If there was only enough of a market for one airline, and easyJet were already on it, would Ryanair risk a fight to try and push them off? If that was their intention, it obviously hasn't worked. And now bmibaby are starting it up again as well, so obviously there must be a market there.

Fortunately, Ryanair don't have everything their own way...

OliWW 4th Jul 2009 17:54

New flights to Bulgaria with Thomson for Summer 2010 on a Friday :ok:

INKJET 7th Jul 2009 12:00

EMA introduces pay for fast track
 
I see the money men at EMA have decided that they have made security such a hassel that they can now charge £3.50 a pax to bypass the snake that yesterday went into the Easy/Ryanair tent.

Well you can turn up early and spend even more time in the shops & bars

But i guess after you have been raped by Ryanair/Baby/easyjet for everthing from printing a board card to paying for passport details to be entered, you wont mind another few quid to escape the crowd and drink over priced beer and under cooked food.

I am alone in thinking that its getting to the point where its all too much hassel, i think airlines and airport companies are worse at ripping you off than estate agents,car dealerships and double glazing companies put together.

They'll be want you to stand on the aircraft next.......deep joy, glad i am not starting out in this industry, just a couple of more years to do, i don't think i'll miss it

handsfree 7th Jul 2009 14:27

Sadly Inkjet, you're not alone. I'm so fed up with cancelled flights, security, the hassle of waiting around airports (shopping halls), the rip off add-ons to flights etc that I've decided that my next trip up to Edinburgh from EMA will be by car. I looked at the rail alternative and the price of that is ridiculous as well.

...and 'yes' I know that the relative final price of the flights are cheap compared to what they were before the advent of the locos. BUT it just riles me to have to part with money just to pay for the ticket. That and 65p a minute to contact reservations to rearrange a flight that they cancelled in the first place.

Whinge over .....

NJTCF 8th Jul 2009 15:23

Kiss Flights Egypt HESH.
 
I See the Koral Blue Airline A319 Was in again today. Starting last wednesday The 1st of July. Anyone know how many seat are on this A319. Looks a long flight 4 a 319. Over 5 hours From HESH. Anyone heard how loads have been on the 1st two flights.

Thanks njtcf.

ATNotts 8th Jul 2009 17:16

Flying - too much hassle
 
Flying within mainland UK makes little sense really. The obsession with security, baggage restrictions (what you can carry - again security realted), check-in queues, security queues, boarding queues, waits at baggage carousels - thats before the car parking costs.

No, there is a better way - the train, if you can afford it, and even driving on our crowded roads is preferable.

There would have to be a compelling reason why I would fly domestically for pleasure - business possibly though, but only if time really is an imperative, over a long distance.

Nimrod6 9th Jul 2009 07:53

Maybe a new thread should be created for all of you to whinge to each other about UK domestic flying!?!

Nobody's making you travel by aircraft, but I know that as an individual within the industry I will always support this method of travel and my local airport.

OliWW 14th Jul 2009 09:07

Goldtrail might have dropped its Greece routes for S09 but they are appearing on their website for S10, Corfu, Heraklion, Zakynthos, Kos and Rhodes all appearing with a BD flight code, departing from EMA between 8am and 8.30am between Sun-Wed... New based aircraft?


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