Jabird
Lufthansa cargo MD-11 come to MAN on schedule basis

Chaps

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jabirdAh, that's because the beancounters run that biz TOO!! Unfortunately, there is no equivalent of JA1 and the govts have been too timid. The regs about insulation and size of rooms and quality of electrics/plumbing installed? As long as it can last the time of guarantee? That'll do. :hmm: When a house fails it's already on the ground and so not many die and so nothing is done.

as you were

Shorthaul flying for the A380 and B787 is now confirmed as FRA and ARN respectively.

Both these new aircraft will also be doing training flights into and out of MSE and will also be doing flights to other UK destinations, still TBA.

The first B787 is due on 26th June, second on the 27th June.

The first A380, G-XLEA, is due on the 4th July.

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The A380 will be visiting Manchester to show off to BA staff both at the airport and from the offices (call centre and citiflyer). It will be a promotional visit only, not a shuttle flight. Im not aware of any other UK visits at the moment.

The B787 will be put on Shuttles to GLA, MAN and NCL, but no dates given for any flights yet.

If you get some dates, can you share?

If I do get some dates and I am permitted to share before it is made public, I certainly will.

Quote: "there reason being of course that the current configuration has been proved to be the most cost effective to build, run and maintain"

You're right Heathrow Harry! both for aircraft and cars.



Quote: "I just booked our latest trip to LHR/YVR in Club World, upper deck on the 747 and as far as I am concerned that is the way to fly, just love the 747 and upstairs it is quiet and super comfortable.
We make the flight fairly regularly and I will probably weep when the 747 retires if the replacement is not as good - will it be 777, 787 or A380 anyone know?

If it is the 777 I will be giving Virgin a call.......!"


Agree about the excellent B747, but it's eventual demise is to be expected and it's regretable that B747-8 has not been the replacement of choice.

Thanks Harry, but does anyone know what will or is likely to replace the 747 on LHR/YVR please?

Would anyone know so far in advance - if in January 2014 British Airways will be flying its A380 or 787 to New York JFK?

Doubtful currently.
B787 will be seeing EWR, IAD, YYZ and YYC but not JFK.
A380 is scheduled to LAX & HKG initially, JFK is planned in the future but it's doubtful by January 14.

Basically the 787 will replace 767 routes and the 380 on 744 routes.

Hope this helps
cs

As more A380s are delivered the next airports scheduled for the A380
Are SFO, JNB, MIA

I would expect YVR to remain a 747 route for years to come. BA have one of the largest fleets of them in the world and at the current rate of new aircraft orders I anticipate there will be a number of them still in service in 10 years time.

This would be the case as long as the revenue holds up, otherwise a drop down to the 777-300ER would be the most likely change. There are still some more of these to be delivered to BA in the future, filling the size gap between the A380 and the 787.

After many years in the 1960s-70s of leaving Vancouver to Air Canada, BA discovered that there is a lot of long-haul connecting traffic out of there to the rest of Europe, and indeed to India and Africa, and Vancouver being one of the mining engineering and also shipping centres of the world, quite an amount of business traffic. Both cities are also film/entertainment industry centres for their respective regions, London long established while Vancouver has become a West Coast cheaper (and more visually attractive) alternative to Hollywood. The days when the route was one for visiting granny in the summer on Wardair are well in the past.

Thanks WHBM! Just booking yet another crossing on BA085 - 30 minutes earlier please BA then I will not have to wait four hours for my connection.....

Apparently the recently announced order for 12 787-10's is rumoured to be the replacement for the LGW longhaul fleet, and that there will also be other significant changes/moving around to help make the operation profitable. (I presume the latter part is referring to shout-haul or the operation as a whole).

Interesting concept. 'Get up those bl**dy steps NOW!'

I gather they have already started scrapping the 737s and will be replacing them with the ex BMI A320s.

Turin, not strictly true.

The 737s will start to be retired from the start of this year's winter schedule. There is a natural reduction in Gatwick flying during the winter season so the retirements can be accommodated without moving any extra aircraft down.

BA are receiving 10 new A320s (1 already delivered, 9 to go). The intention is that as these are delivered, the rest of the ex-bmi A319s will go down to Gatwick to replace the remaining 737s.

A320 G-MEDK is permanently down at Gatwick as this is a higher MTOW version of the A320 so is able to do the longer flights to Tenerife and Paphos without much of a performance hit compared to the A319s. It also provides extra capacity on busy routes throughout the summer.

The intention is to keep the remaining ex-bmi A320s at Heathrow as they are mostly homogenous with the BA aircraft, along with the mid-haul A321s (which will be converted to ULD loaded).

Champ

I can't see how the A319's would struggle with TFS or PFO, they should have a longer range than the A320's, as I do not believe they are de-rated at all like EZY's ones.

Adfly,
I agree - PFO is doable in a 319. Did the LGW-PFO trip in a BA A319 back in 2009.

I believe that the problems is specifically with the ex BD A319's. These aircraft are all configured with a high density 144Y configuration. Compared to BA's 132Y.