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BE/BA also codeshare on a variety of routes ex LGW.
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And Ex BAcon international routes from Birmingham but thats not really the point I was making.
It was to rebuke BALHR claims the RYR and EZY/EZS have hubs when they have many more bases however none operate as connecting Hubs in any sense. |
Neither RYR or EZY/EZS have ANY hubs that's not in their business model. You can't book through tickets. If you choose to book two flights through a base and are for any reason delayed both carriers WILL strand you and recharge you at last minute (Full fare close to Legacies Y rates). The business model is POINT TO POINT and they do this rather well - Better than most legacies ever did in the case of the UK beyond London. The only UK variable fares carrier (Oft referred to as LCC) with any Hubbing and connection opportunities is FLYBE -they have two hubs Manchester and Southampton and do offer through fares - They even sell codeshare on Air France mainline out of Manchester and Birmingham and carry Etihad passengers from/to Manchester from other regional airports. FlyBe even codeshare with none other than British Airways on the Manchester -Dusseldorf, Hanover and Milan services ! |
If BA maintains the amount of slots at LHR/LGW and gradually reduce it short-haul fleet in favour of long-haul* and based on their current fleet orders, then this is what a possible future BA fleet
2 X Airbus A318-100 40-50 X Airbus A319neo (replacing the Airbus A319-100’s) 40-50 X Airbus A320neo (replacing the Airbus A320-200’s) 15-20 X Airbus A321neo (replacing the Airbus A321-200’s) 40-50 X Boeing 787-8/9 (replacing the Boeing 767-300ER’s) 40-50 X Airbus A350-900 (replacing the Boeing 777-200/200ER) 60-70 X Airbus A350-1000 + Airbus A380-800 (replacing the Boeing 747-400/777-300ER) *By withdrawing the 737-400s, but keep the same number of A320s and delay the retirements of 767s/747s until after the “initial” A380/787 order |
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Your hijacking this forum with your stupid suggestions and constant questions regarding the future size of BA especially it's fleet, just look back at your posts and think for a minute yeah and try and lay off a bit! Your VERY annoying! |
I suspect that the future fleet of BA, like many airlines, would be an A320/321 NEO mix or 737-8/-9 MAX. Don't think the smaller A319/737-7 will be too popular with the heavier engines and wings, much like the -500 was a popular classic, but the -600 was considered something of a dog. The consensus in the industry seems to be the A320 and the 737-8 are the baseline models.
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I'd expect the lower end to be covered by the C-series or upgraded/re-engined E195's if BA did not order the A319NEO (Which I think they would order, just less of them than of the larger variants).
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Snow performance
Analysis of departures of major carriers from LHR scheduled in 12 hours between 1200 midday and 2359 midnight on Friday 18 January 2013
UK Virgin 15 scheduled, 15 operated, zero cancelled BA 194 scheduled, 49 operated, 75% cancelled Overseas Aer Lingus 14 scheduled, 6 cancelled, 43% cancelled Air Canada 7 scheduled, 7 operated, zero cancelled American 8 scheduled, 7 operated, 12% cancelled Gulf carriers (EK, EY, QR) 10 scheduled, 10 operated, zero cancelled SAS 14 scheduled, 6 cancelled, 43% cancelled United 8 scheduled, 8 operated, zero cancelled Source : Flightstats Same airport. Same runways. Same snow. |
What were the stats for Air France, KLM and Lufthansa? I'm trying to work out why you include 7 long-haul airlines with limited operations against BA who have a large network of short-haul routes. I've read that LHR went down to 6 movements per hour at one stage... so it's hardly surprising that BA was the most affected.
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A United B767 can stand at LHR for 5 hrs, and then operate its flight. No canx.
It doesn't come back. A BA A319 will stand there for 5 hrs, and then operate its flight, but arrive back in LHR about 8 hrs late. BA runs out of short haul aircraft. Here in Stockholm we operated 3 out of 5 flights to LHR. First on time, second 5 hrs late and third 5 hrs late, both waiting for landing slots at LHR. The third left ARN at about the time the 5th should have. There was not enough runway capacity at LHR. |
Swedish Steve - don't mention snow and runway capacity in the same sentence. It will only give our Government the incentive to review the current review and decide they need a different type of review to be completed by 2020.
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Same airport. Same runways. Same snow. |
OK, for all the long haul/short haul apologists, I've divided BA up on that basis.
Long haul : 65 scheduled, 27 cancelled, 38 operated, 42% cancelled Short haul : 131 scheduled, 119 cancelled, 12 operated, 91% cancelled |
I've read that LHR went down to 6 movements per hour at one stage... so it's hardly surprising that BA was the most affected. Virgin 15 scheduled, 15 operated, zero cancelled |
@ airmiles
Irony aside, surely the reliability benefits of running Heathrow at say 95% of rated capacity with 3 runways versus 100% with 2 must be an integral part of the Davies inquiry. Simulating normal working is all very well, but what happens on the worst five performance days of the year is very important to the case. |
Same airport. Same runways. Same snow. |
the reliability benefits of running Heathrow at say 95% of rated capacity with 3 runways versus 100% with 2 That it runs at 99%, with all that that implies for resilience (or lack thereof), is purely a commercial decision. I imagine that Davies and co will be capable of working that out for themselves. :O |
It's only 99% of the artificially limited capacity. Under FAA rules the runways would be independent and run in mixed mode. In addition there needs to be more reality with regard to arrival vortex separation with regard to the actual wind. Only on departure have I ever had any vortex encounter, easily predicted by the slack wind and easily handled, at least in the 74.
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It's only 99% of the artificially limited capacity. Under FAA rules the runways would be independent and run in mixed mode. And the fact that LHR doesn't operate in mixed mode has nothing to do with the fact that FAA rules don't apply. |
@ Dave Reid
Sure, agree, but buying out or expropriating 4% of existing slots ain't going to happen. Maybe the moment when you have a shedload of slots to dish out is the moment to enforce it on all parties as part of the deal. Is there an estimate of the annual delay cost at Heathrow to the total air traveller/airline/airport system? |
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