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ManofMan 19th Feb 2008 19:22

I know this is abit random and not very easy to understand but we know how much airlines change their frequencies and aircraft types. Hoepfully this will help somebody wanting to book onto an MD80/A319/736/738 or someone wanting to get on an SAS 734 - better hurry up!

When did SAS buy 737-400 ???? or MD-80's for that matter ???

MUFC_fan 19th Feb 2008 19:24

They haven't.

They have had the MD80s for donkeys and the 734s are being removed from the MAN schedule by the end of this winter season to be replaced by new 738s.:confused::confused:

ManofMan 19th Feb 2008 19:31

Dont mean to sound pedantic but SAS do not operate either 737-400's or MD-80's

Curious Pax 19th Feb 2008 19:46

Yes they do - they have 40-odd MD-80s (that being a generic name for MD-82/MD-83/MD-87), and acquired 737-400s when they took over Braathens. Around 4 remain in service with SAS Norway.

EC-ILS 19th Feb 2008 19:55

SK 737-400s are regular visitors to DUB as mentioned ex BU machines.

ManofMan 19th Feb 2008 19:57

Well in that case i guess someone can put some custard on for my humble pie. !!!

Sorry MUFC

manspot 19th Feb 2008 22:57

Flybe Ramp
 
I can confirm Flight Support have got the ramp contract for Flybe. Not bad for a company who 12 months ago had 4 3W's a day plus the odd Globespan over wing only, now the biggest handling agent at Manchester in terms of movements.

Credit goes to the Manchester staff for making it happen. I bet there is a very well known General Manager with a smile on his face today.

Now all that remains is for Flight Support to prove to everyone that Flybe, VLM, Euromanx and Globespan have made the right choice in handling at Manchester. How many more contracts are on the way, Servisair watch out!!!

MANFlyer 20th Feb 2008 07:56

Arrival slot restriction at MAN ?
 
I was on QR41 inbound from DOH yesterday and we were ready to go with doors closed 10 mins before departure. Captain came on with his usual welcome confirming we were good to go but said we were unable to arrive at MAN earlier than our schedualed 0620 arrival time?!. This is the first time I've heard this, and have arrived before scheduled arrival time many times on SQ.

Is this a temorary thing due to runway work or something ?.

Wellington Bomber 20th Feb 2008 08:03

Down to one runway at the moment WIP on t'other one

Hudson Bay 20th Feb 2008 09:22

bmi to announce new routes fom Manchester next week. Very clever indeed. We all know what next week coincides with!!

I beleive this to be the start of a massive expansion by bmi at Manchester.

My money is on Poland and somewhere mid-haulish.

MAN777 20th Feb 2008 09:34

I must be asleep, what is happening next week ?

MUFC_fan 20th Feb 2008 10:02


I must be asleep, what is happening next week ?
Yeh...what is happening?:confused:

If this is true, its about time a LON carrier recognised MANs potential. Hopefully it will be with some Airbus a/c - not the Embraers!

If we are looking at short haul onto the continent it is most likely to be WW. If it is Mid-haul, could we see Cairo or Moscow?

I would LOVE it to be long haul - LAX!:ok: But I am getting well ahead of myself now!:O

Anyone got any ideas?

Hudson Bay 20th Feb 2008 10:41

I tell a lie. Between 22nd - 25th February.

New bmi route launch on 22nd followed by massive publicity campaign for the following 3 days.

At least someone has their finger on the pulse and someone else giving MOL the finger!!!

airhumberside 20th Feb 2008 11:26

baby, mainline or regional?

LH436 20th Feb 2008 11:38

oasis hong kong
 
I thougt they wanted to start the route HKG-DUS-MAN in august.whatever.shouldn't they confirm it in the near future to have enough time to sell the seats?

comet 4b623PW 20th Feb 2008 11:42

I thought BD were short of aircraft, certainly for long haul as they have just leased B757,s from Astraeus. No A330,s due for a while as I understand it. So are they going to lease in appropriate aircraft or are the Caribbean and Las Vegas services to be axed at the end of the summer program.

A narrow body airbus may be available if it has been freed up by 757,s taking over a few LHR routes. Not sure how many medium haul routes would be profitable from Manchester, possibles may be Moscow, Tel-a-Viv, Cairo.

They have tried E-145,s to europe so far without out standing success.

GLENO 20th Feb 2008 11:50

Hudson Bay........

Where have you got this info from?

Please anywhere apart from Poland!!:ugh:

How's about a daily Madrid?:ok:

airhumberside 20th Feb 2008 11:54


So are they going to lease in appropriate aircraft or are the Caribbean and Las Vegas services to be axed at the end of the summer program.
Why cant it stay with the current A330?

OltonPete 20th Feb 2008 12:32

BMI (Baby)
 
The BMI Baby June - October schedule at Manchester had many gaps the last time I checked their timetable and they could quite easily get four new routes without going beyond 4 aircraft based (3 until June).

If it involves another based unit would this mean taking one away from elsewhere or have they sourced some more 733's. I know that at least another one is due in the summer.

The June onward schedule did show: -

8 at BHX
5 at EMA
4 at MAN
3 at CWL

They had 22 units, 3 500's to go this winter (one gone plus one about to)and there is one to arrive?

Pete

mufc4evr 20th Feb 2008 17:09

hi this is my first post here and about those 757s, i thought they were leased to BA for services from LGW?

Also how come international asian airlines haven't seen the potential from MAN. I mean Thai + Air India would probably do very well here, finnally i think that BMI would be a better leading UK airline if they based at MAN as how many money making destinations are there not currently served from MAN.

E.g MAD,LAX,HKG etc...

Mr @ Spotty M 20th Feb 2008 17:21

One has been operating for BA at LGW.

MAN Guy 20th Feb 2008 18:21

mufc4ever

Some of the Asian airlines have already been and gone at MAN, relatively recent examples that spring to mind are Malaysian, Air India and a few "oddball" carriers serving the Indian market like Uzbekistan through Tashkent and Turkmenistan through Ashgabat. Like many routes from MAN they may have operated with good load factors at times but yields were ultimately poor, especially in Malaysian's case. There have been rumours here and there about Air India retuning one day but so far nothing has come to fruition.

Thai have said MAN is on their "list" for expansion which is good news, but unfortunately they've been saying it for years which isn't so good as still no service.

As for BMI.... who knows?! Rumours on here suggest a big expansion at MAN might be on the cards but I'd be pleasantly surprised if it were to be anything other than more Baby flights to Europe or some additional stuff by Regional.

ACCMan 20th Feb 2008 19:39

Jett8
 
Bad news. Very strong rumour Jett8 are pulling out. Can't get the uplift into MAN to make it worthwhile.

Part of the UK economic downturn???

accman:(

Scottie Dog 20th Feb 2008 20:00

Jett8
 
ACCMAN you just beat me to it. I have heard exactly the same - sad news but cargo has been good for some time and hopefully will continue upward as the economy improves.

On the subject of Bmi anouncements, my source had heard nothing - and he is in a position that should know. Be interesting if anything does come about.

MUFC_fan 21st Feb 2008 09:58

DL's JFK rotation to go daily this summer and into next winter with 752W.

Suzeman 21st Feb 2008 11:08


hopefully will continue upward as the economy improves.
Afternoon Scottie.

Do you know something that the government and all these highly paid bankers don't? :}

Bad news of course if it is true about Jett8, but then getting loads going east has always been a problem, especially in recent years as we don't actually produce much goods in UK nowadays......

Suzeman

Scottie Dog 21st Feb 2008 12:04

Suzeman - obviously you are having a few days away from the grindstone at the moment!!

Maybe I should have used the word 'when', rather than 'as' the economy improves.

Just wish I was paid the same as ministers and bankers!!

Time for another pint sometime to mull over the affairs of the world??

Regards

Scottie Dog

Pilot Pete 21st Feb 2008 13:15

MAN iris recognition rollout
 
So, it would appear that anyone who wishes to work airside at Manchester is going to have to register and have their irises scanned for new recognition purposes. What are your thoughts about this, good or bad?

For. Helps to prevent imitation of someone else, but is that a big problem?

Against. Yet another 'big brother' step. Can MAplc be trusted to hold this data securely? Who will have access to it? Will it be accessible by any other 'officials' and will any individual suddenly find their personal data being added to some 'national' type database? We all know how secure they are..............

Comments?

PP

call100 21st Feb 2008 13:20

The Government are proposing to roll out Biometric national ID cards to aviation workers first. It is assumed that we are less likely to complain because we have so many ID cards as it is???:\ So iris scanning is the least of your worries.....:eek:
It's going to roll out to all airports sooner or later....Let us know how you get on.....

ACCMan 21st Feb 2008 14:03

PP - The biometric data is held on the chip inside your ID card, so it's in your interest not to lose it. There is no central database for biometrics, so on renewal you'll be asked to scan your eyes again.

groundhand 21st Feb 2008 15:42

Nothing against the system PROVIDED that all airports use the same system and it will allow easier movement for workers between airports.

Blackcap 21st Feb 2008 21:13

AccMan said

PP - The biometric data is held on the chip inside your ID card, so it's in your interest not to lose it. There is no central database for biometrics, so on renewal you'll be asked to scan your eyes again.
Not true - I've had two replacement passes at MAN, one being a company change, one being a complete renewal, and I did not have to be re-scanned either time.

viscount702 21st Feb 2008 22:23

SQ
 
Re a posting on another thread.

SQ must be reducing or at least considering reducing winter flights as their timetable now shows the reduction

Adola69 21st Feb 2008 23:00

So much for Malaysian !!
 
:rolleyes:I see from another forum that Malaysian are starting a twice a week service to Gatwick with B777.

I don't think we'll ever see them back here at Man., as that's just the a/c they should have stuck with here.

Ah well, maybe Flybe could start with Dash 8's and progress up to E195's !!

Adola:{

MANFlyer 22nd Feb 2008 06:27

Adola69, I said same as you in post 1786 on this thread. Bad news indeed. I was in Sabah last week at one of the big resort Hotels. As usual it was rammed with Brits, many of whom were closer to MAN than LHR but had to schlep down there to fly MH to BKI via KUL. A few I spoke to used to fly from MAN direct to KUL. I know holiday makers do not tend to equal big yield but this is MH's market anyway, and what they will be getting from LGW. I'm afraid the 'threat' of that bl**dy long haul LCC flying here will have put paid to the return of MH at MAN....

viscount702, see an earlier post on here for the SQ news. ;) One slight alteration is the new departure time is just 10 mins earlier at 0950 instead of the proposed 0920. They've also finally bowed to the complaints and dumped the Servisair lounge. :)

Wellington Bomber, thanks for the confirmation on the work. I thought an inbound slot restriction was strange.

Mr A Tis 22nd Feb 2008 06:59

Why anyone would want to use either lounge in T2 is a mystery to me. They are both an embarrassment to the world of Exec lounges.:eek:

Mr A Tis 22nd Feb 2008 11:47

Baby does Lis
 
Baby to LISbon now bookable from 17th June Tues & Sats.

eggc 22nd Feb 2008 12:21

According to Hudson Bay in a previous post...


New bmi route launch on 22nd followed by massive publicity campaign for the following 3 days.

OltonPete 22nd Feb 2008 12:26

BMI Baby
 
I trust that this is the starter with the main course to follow?

As I have stated before there is plenty of room in the schedule for new
routes or inceased frequencies.

BTW local BHX rumour is 3 new Baby routes tba in the next few weeks.

Pete

MUFC_fan 22nd Feb 2008 12:54

Maybe they will have some 'W' rotations to new destinations.

Is the BHX schedule full?


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