23R Night Closures
 

23L does open at 1500hrs today.

Main reason for 23R night closures is so repairs on Twy DZ to the runway edge can be carried out. No doubt the night closures will enable other routine but essential maintenance to be done on the runway itself.

23L reopening
 

Adola/Musket

My humble apologies- you are both quite correct and 23L is scheduled to reopen at 1500.

I really should check my triping before I press 'post'.

Scottie Dog

US air
 

Galileo is also only showing one flight MAN-PHL 04SEP-02OCT. B757 1055/1355

Hi all,

Does anybody have a MyTravel timetable? I know they are still operating under MYT at the moment. I've tried there site but it doesn't seem to give much info. Any help would be appreciated.

Jett8
 

Further to my post of 20th February with regards to the withdrawal of the above service, I am delighted to be able to say that Jett8 have reversed their decision and will continue to service Manchester.

Times are apparantly to be marginally different, but it is good to be able to report a positive change of mind.

I also understand that Jade are still looking at operating, however any start date has ben put back until at least August.

Rumour has it that PK could be moving over to T1 very soon...apparently new security kit has been installed at transfers at T1 to cope with the transit flights!

Could be a tight fit!

Where would they put the a/c? MON/QR/EY always seem to have the larger stands with their A330s!

Gate 26 or 32 I would think would be favourites.

It would certainly take presure off T2 as it goes through its refurbishment. The T1 refurb in departures is almost complete, with the new outbound securty area opening in April I believe.

April 200?

Yeh the new T1 security area will be open April 15th but there's still a lot of other work to be done in T1. The whole retail project doesn't finish until Spring next year meaning that the airside area will be constantly being changed over the next 12 months with passengers being re-routed left, right and centre. It will be difficult enough to keep disruption to a minimum without the added pressure of PK and therefore I don't see this move going ahead just yet. In comparison, whilst the T2 redevelopment is now in full swing, the majority of the work is taking place on the now closed Mezzanine level and former Atlantic Suite. Both of these area's do not interfere with check-in or security and currently it is causing very little disruption. It is only the hoardings in check-in that are causing minor problems and as PK checks in mid afternoon when there are few other departures, it is not really an issue. In fact, I've heard on the grapevine that QR will be the first airline to move from T2 to T1 once their re-timed schedule kicks in.

I heard a rumour that all Scheduled airlines are moving to T1 and all the Bucket and Spades to T2

So whats the eventual plan for MAN terminals?

T1 is obviously being given a general cosmetic overhaul and increased security areas. Standard in any modern refurb programme, along with the addition of additional retail!

T3 leaves me confused though whats happening there? I heard that the Mezz area will become airside T1? Is this still the plan? Are we going to have to proceed through that nasty, narrow series of corridors to get from the station to T3 forever more? Is there going to be any upgrades to the T3 airside, currently retail and food options are poor, its a bit of a hole TBH, especially when compared to T1, which has a much better choice.

Brian.

The current T3 security area will close shortly making way for more shops :ugh: The new T3 search area ( BMI side ) is to be made bigger so all PAX departing from T3 will pass though one security point.

The plans for T3 are actually bigger and more ambitious than both the T1 & T2 redevelopments put together. I have detailed a few snipets in previous posts if you want to try and find them but at this stage there are several possibilities being looked at and of course any proposed scheme has to be put forward for board approval.

The current Mezzanine linking T1 and T3 (where the Donkey Stone pub was located) has been closed for a while now. This will not become part of T1 airside for the time being. The T3 end will be made into an extended security area which will serve all passengers departing from T3. Some space will be left at the T1 end with the idea of creating new executive lounges at a later date. There is talk at the minute that the airport's own 'Escape Lounge' brand, currently only in T2, will open a new lounge in T1.

As for the link between T1 and T3, this unfortunately will now require passengers to walk outside between the 2 terminals. A new undercover walkway will be built between the Thomas Cook lifts and the Spar entrance at T3. This is only a short term (2-3 years) measure and eventually a new skylink will be built between the station and T3 but not before the new plans for T3 have been finalised. There was initially going to be a shuttle bus between T1 and T3 but plans for this were shelved as the airport decided the added congestion on Tower Road with these additional bus services wouldn't be worth it for what is effectively a five minute walk.

Turkish Airlines
 

As rumoured some time back. Increase to 9 per week from 3rd August with a second flight on Sunday & Wednesday. Additional Monday flight from 1st September. From 25th October goes back to 7 per week.

Flew out of T1 on EY the other day. Thought the new restaurant area upstairs was alright. The departures lounge does really feel unfinished at the moment though which is a shame. Hopefully the finished product will be a big improvement.

One question though. Does anyone know if the temporary looking WHSmiths and Boots right infront of th windows (and the information point) are going to be removed once the other shop units come online? I think these units are the worst in th airport interms of making the place look cheap and temporary and also in terms of blocking out daylight from the lounge and not letting people see the planes!!

Gavin C

Who wants to look out at the planes??!!

I brought up the same question with regards to the new Boots in T3 and was slammed for even thinking that people would rather look out of the window, it just ment staff could buy their lunch quicker:ugh:.

I do agree that they do look shabby and should be relocated and hope they are, from a working point of view sometime it's good to look in from airside to see all the happy punters going on holiday, even more so when it 4 hours late:ok:

Personally I feel that the airport is greedy, in so much as they take avery square inch they can for retail and sod the rest of you lot, ambience and comfort be damned! The idea of not being able to look out the windows because there is a dmned Boots there is pathetic!

And the thing is, there is another boots 10 yards away. And another duty free too. Infact, all of those units have repeat units elsewhere that are permenant.

I really hope they remove the stupid things. I like to look out of the window and see my bag go on the plane!!!

But the idea that we staff can now afford to buy lunch is always a bonus.:ugh:

SQ Intentions
 

I am US Based, so use the MAN-SIN about once per year, if transiting through UK office. There seems to be some confusion on the SQ situation, so I thought I would ask the staff -ground and air. I came to the conclusion, that nobody, even the airline knows what the hell is going on with the route. Ground staff were told by the pax about the website showing 5/wk. The loads are high, the days being dropped don't make sense from previous comments, shortage of aircraft yet they are expanding elsewhere. I can't even get back SIN-MAN as it is full (not the first time), so have to go via the dump in the south.:ugh:

Anybody have real facts on the situation?

Just had a walk round T1, oh my gawd ! what a mess, I hope the hoardings start to come down before the summer season starts or its going to be mayhem, what with the work in progress and the concrete road blocks everywhere its a real shambles. I know I was shot down last time I said it but why the hell are we making yet more alterations to this 1960s dump, management have some bottle, level the place and start again, if LHR can build LHR East in the middle of such a busy place why cant we ?

MAN777 I have to agree. Whilst preferring to fly from Liverpool wherever possible (it is after all my local airport) when flying long haul or to many IT destinations I have no choice but to fly Manchester and quite frankly it's rarely a pleasant experience these days.

To me the sensible (and I think viable) option would be to revert to the original plan to build a mid field satellite terminal as an extension to T2. That would potentially add 10-12m capacity, enough to cater for existing T1 traffic (at least) enabling the demolition and rebuild of the T1 area, which once complete would leave the airport able to cater for upwards of 35m pax.

Having said that, with current growth rates maybe the management are beginning to think they don't need so much additional capacity?

TUI Fly cut backs
 

TUI Fly (HLX) have dropped their planned summer Tuesday morning flights to Cologne & Stuttgart. Just had my flights changed from Tuesday morning to very late Wednesday night. Cancelled flights in favour of Lufty - cheaper too !

BA Hangar
 

The Old BA hangar has finally opened its doors again and is being used for what it was intended !

B-KAG the Dragonair 747 with bent engines, is residing inside.

Hopefully this incident will leave a legacy at MAN in that a dormant building (sealed for years rather than pay rates) will get used properly.

Anybody know the full details ?

Details of what?

I understand that the Airport Company now own the hangar rather than BA. The change took place recently.

Suzeman

spannersatcx

read the post !

Does anybody know anything about the use of the BA hangar for the Dragonair 747 ! Is this a one off ? Who is doing the work ? etc etc.

Didnt know I had to spell it out to what I thought were intelligent people on this forum !:rolleyes:

Yep, MA now own the hangar (or more precisely, MADL do). They will be leasing it out to anyone that needs it and are now actively advertising it.

It will bolster the airports attributes as it looks to attract a long haul, foreign airline - now that there is another (available) 747-capable hangar on site. Its a fine bit of hangarage, too.

They are looking to rename the hangar, and are looking for sensible suggestions - anyone?

FEDEX Expansion at MAN

MON-THU MD11F MAN - MEM
SUN-THU A310F MAN - EWR

Feeders:

B75F from MAD & CDG

ATR from GLA/NCL/CWL & ABZ (?).

Anybody confirm this?

MM

MAN to become FedEx UK base then?:eek:

Would be excellent if it did.

Some of the pictures I have seen from MEM look cool - maybe MAN could become a mini MEM!:ok:

http://www.englandsnorthwest.com/inv...wing-city.html
(They have more space to fill!):ok:

MAN777, I'm obviously a thick engineer then! Didn't know if you wanted details of the incident or something else.

Hangar was always owned by airport but leased to BA.

£2000 a day, work being done by CX with assistance by SIA, MAN777 check your pm's.

Not quite correct. MA leases all the airport land (by virtue of a long lease from the 10 local authorities) and then leased some of it to BA, who built their own hangar on it.

When BA lost interest, there was the problem of their asset (their hangar), on someone else's land. If BA ever stop paying the ground lease payment, the landlord (MA) could repossess the asset on their land. They would also still have to pay business rates to the local authority (Mcr City Council) even if it was empty. After it was consistently unused for a while, they could apply to suspend paying rates. However, once it's used again, rates become liable, even if it's only used for one day. That's why it couldn't be used for temporary uses. Meanwhile BA tried to sell the building, along with the right to lease MA's land, but because it's typical BA spec (gold taps, anyone?) the price was too high and no-one was interested.

I suspect MA and BA have agreed a payment (by BA to MA) to extract themselves from their ongoing ground lease liabilities, and to allow MA to re-let it as a normal lease (like any other building e.g. cargo shed). Knowing MA's incompetence in striking truly commercial deals, they've probably agreed to let BA walk away without paying anything, citing "wider strategic benefits" or some such tosh.

Whatever the legalities lets get it filled with aircraft and get some more engineers employed in the north.

Ocean sky is always packed these days, perhaps they might like to spend some roubles on a BBJ service centre ?

Amen to that.

Well I better keep my mouth shut, no sooner had I said lets get more engineers here, SRtechnics announce closure of MAN operation !:mad:

T2 windmill
 

Noticed the new windmill on T2 what the ...... is going on there anybody know??

Also whats' with the scaffold around T1 near the Glodfish Bowl?

Was talking to SR engineer today, reckons they will get 90 days notice next week,:sad: hope they can find something.

Fuelboy

Oh very good. :D:D:ugh:

You should write the leader for the Daily Liar.

Qatar Feb Pax
 

The CAA Feb provisional route analysis figures show MAN - Doha as: -

10603 down from 14350 - is this due to the re-timing of the flights?

Is it daily as that makes it 183 per flight!:(

The rest of the long-haul looks good but of course there was an extra day compared to 2007.

Islamabad was higher than Heathrow and up over 6 or 7k. The Leeds ISB pax are not shown.

EK was up to 42841 from 39768 which is 369 a flight about 85%.

EY was up to 12994 from 11237.

Pete

QR
 

There is something odd about the QR figures.

This is the second month showing large losses.

Last month of LHR LGW and MAN,Man showed the least drop.

This month LGW showed a huge drop of 45% LHR and MAN showed a drop of 26%.

Therfore according to the figures MAN is not the only one suffering and in fact is suffering less than the others.

There is therfore something wrong with the figures or QR are in trouble in the UK. Which is it. I think we need to see the final figures for the last two months to find out what may be happening.

Otherwise the figures aren't that bad.

Question? Why do the figures never show anything for KIR


Viscount