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merchant sailors 2nd Feb 2009 07:42

A330's doing short sectors
 
You ask if anyone knows of the short sectors A330's do?

try one on your door step.
Last time I travelled MNL - AMS - LHR, we travelled on an A330 on the morning sector from AMS - LHR on KLM.


Also pretty common to see A330's used on sectors under 2 hours in Asia.
Especially Cathay, China Airlines and Malaysia Airlines

Skipness One Echo 2nd Feb 2009 08:14

The A330 was not designed as a long haul aircraft in the first instance....

Kestrel_Stu 2nd Feb 2009 15:17


Also the YYZ flights on the 757, which A/C are in this config now?
G-FCLJ, G-FCLK and G-WJAN will be in Y187 config for S09.

Robini 2nd Feb 2009 15:27


There's a thread starter for you, long haul aircraft flying short haul routes. I can think of A330s flying shorter sectors.
I didn't say it wasn't able to fly short haul routes....But short haul from UK!
Surpricing of flying A333 to SFB? Nja not so surpricing...But to DLM...

TCX69 2nd Feb 2009 16:14


G-FCLJ, G-FCLK and G-WJAN will be in Y187 config for S09.
G-WJAN? Will it be re-registered for the summer then or stay as C-FFAN? Be nice to see a TCX 757 with winglets! Where will this one be based?

So TCX will be operating 17 752's this summer then?

G-FCLA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K
G-JMCD/E/F/G
G-TCBA
G-WJAN

Kestrel_Stu 2nd Feb 2009 16:24

It will come onto the British register for the summer as G-WJAN. As one of the Y187 aircraft it will be seen at MAN, LGW and GLA, these aircraft don't have fixed bases and often "swap" downroute. Still 16 x B752s in total this summer (as S08), because G-FCLG has been returned to the lessor (for -F conversion to FedEx).

1 x A320 and 1 x A333 are the "extra" aircraft vs. S08 (see this post).

Kestrel_Stu 3rd Feb 2009 13:45


I didn't say it wasn't able to fly short haul routes....But short haul from UK!
Surpricing of flying A333 to SFB? Nja not so surpricing...But to DLM...
Not really too surprising when you consider group strategy is moving capacity from the euro zone to destinations like Turkey in line with consumer demand (largely resulting from the poor £/Euro exchange rate).

Even the Glasgow A330-200 does a Dalaman once a week this summer.

Flightlevel001 3rd Feb 2009 14:46

Didn't EI do a Shannon-Dublin rush hour service in their A330s before it went across the pond? Don't know if they still do....

jasond4 3rd Feb 2009 21:04

can any one tell me what aircraft tcx are using to egypt from Manchester this summer

thanks

goldeneye 4th Feb 2009 09:21

jasond4

TCX tend to use the 757 or 767 on flights to Egypt. It really depends on your route.

Kestrel_Stu 4th Feb 2009 10:40

All Egypt routes are planned on the 757-200 this summer.

johnrizzo2000 4th Feb 2009 11:50

EI only flies SNN-DUB because the aircraft routes BOS-SNN-DUB :)

Any chance of TCX flying ex DUB?

odyseus 4th Feb 2009 16:36

TCX flights out of DUB this summer will be operated by Monarch.

goldeneye 4th Feb 2009 17:35

The Monarch flight from Dublin to Sanford has nothing to do with TCX. Its for Panorama Holidays Ireland and Direct Holidays Ireland who are part of the Thomas Cook Group.

TCX only operate from Northern Ireland (BFS)

chrisy08 5th Feb 2009 10:48

What aircraft will be flying to Antalya this summer from Cardiff? A321?

Envoy320 5th Feb 2009 11:00

Cwl-AYt - A321 every week...

celso75 11th Feb 2009 11:49

"G-WJAN? Will it be re-registered for the summer then or stay as C-FFAN? Be nice to see a TCX 757 with winglets! Where will this one be based?

So TCX will be operating 17 752's this summer then?

G-FCLA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K
G-JMCD/E/F/G
G-TCBA
G-WJAN"

G-WJAN, or C-FFAN does not have winglets!

Barnesy2006 11th Feb 2009 17:52

Will STN be staying as 1 A321?

BYALPHAINDIA 11th Feb 2009 23:23

A320 at STN I think?

BYALPHAINDIA 11th Feb 2009 23:26

I don't know if it was already posted,

But TCX is adding MIR on a sunday from LBIA, I have just read in TTG.

Envoy320 13th Feb 2009 16:25

STN will change to a based A320 with a sunday evening B757-200 visiting to operate from/to Monastir...

Evileyes 19th Feb 2009 17:27

Several recent posts have been moved to Passengers Forum.

One has to wonder why someone would ask a travel agent or customer service related question on an anonymous website and rely on the accuracy of the answer.

Wouldn't it make more sense to call the people you are paying for the flight and ask them?

Thomas Cook Questions

SCANDIC 22nd Feb 2009 09:42

C-ffan/wjan
 
Will wjan get a full respray or willl it just get thomas cook stickers on, i think that thomas cook own as far as i know and its its only a young aircraft.:ok:

daz211 24th Feb 2009 18:33

How can thomas cook do this !
 
Ryanair.com - News : Ryanair Exposes Thomas Cook Overcharging

goldeneye 24th Feb 2009 18:50

Daz211

i think you will find that this has nothing to do with Thomas Cook Airlines. It is infact the tour operator they have issues with. Ryanair have been going on about travel companies marking up there fares for ages. Dont quite get why they have an issue as they are still getting money, granted not the marked up price. However it really is upto the customer who they book with.

WATABENCH 25th Feb 2009 09:53

As an ex travel agent, heres one simple question....Would you work for free? Answer is more than likely to be no, so if you have a customer that comes in to your shop wanting to fly to a ryanair destination, you have checked all other alternatives, made phone calls and the only choice left is ryanair, the customer has no personal internet access and wishes you to book the flight for them, would you do it for free after spending all that time with them? or would you charge a nominal fee?
Obviously on this occasion we dont know the ins and outs of the booking, the fee seems quite high, which may be a bit naughty, however where I was the same small fee applied not only to FR but to EZY, Baby, BE or any other carrier that doesnt pay agents anything, when explained to customers they're usually happy to pay for it as it saves them a lot of hassle, the agency i used to work for (one of big 3) put a complete stop to FR bookings across the company after MOL's rant last year, very suprised this agency didnt as well.
On the flip side if your a good enough travel agent you should be able to add on some other bits and bobs to up your commision, for example hotels, currency, car hire, attraction tickets, insurance etc...
Maybe MOL should take the example of EZY and try to work with these agencies, surely the more options for passangers to book their flights the better?
Its a bit off topic but as GOLDENEYE says a travel agency/tour op issue and not airline, but thought i'd just put my 2 pennies worth in, all the best TCX thread. :O

45989 25th Feb 2009 10:25

O'LEERY is an utter PRAT[not allowed to say what he really is}. Why waste one's time dealing or listening to his drivel?

Welsh Bobby 3rd Mar 2009 14:55

TCX at CWL
 
Tried TCX for the first time this winter as an alternative to TOM - on the whole ok except for a duff aircraft on the outbound - toilet at the front u/s and so was the inflight entertainment!!..and this was half term hols - kids not impressed. Queue for the toilets at the rear half way down the length of the aisle at one point. We thought we were on a locost carrier!
Inbound made up for it - all working on the return flight. I hope they expand at CWL to give us more choice.Anyone know any plans for expansion?

flyinthesky 3rd Mar 2009 16:07

Well as someone speaking from the inside, the plans for this summer are much more stable than last. The majority of the merger issues are through and 'mostly' over with. The schedule is busy but workable and the engineers should have sufficient time to be able to cope with the tech issues.

Last summer was a nightmare but it was always going to be so, with 2 huge carriers coming together so quickly. We have thought through our plan and rather than retrench, we are building on the strength of being part of a vertical organisation. i.e TCX

You can never plan for the unseen, but I for one am looking forward to this summer with a lot less trepidation than last summers debacle. It was a shambles, fair and square and had little to do with those actually running the airline but was more a result of achieving synergies already promised to the city.

I wish my colleagues in TOM/FC all the best but feel they may still have a lot of pain to bear, and it aint nice!!!

Niallo 17th Mar 2009 20:54

TCX Flight Consolidation
 
Appreciate if anyone can answer the following:
TCX advertises Fri and Sat flights in May, YVR to MAN. If they can only fill half of the two flights, when would they consolidate the two, and which flight would be dropped?

goldeneye 17th Mar 2009 23:00

Niallo

These flights are very unlikely to be consolodated in to one aircraft, as it will be required to fly back to the UK. Also these are operated as a scheduled service and are not charter flights. They are also operated under an Air Transat codeshare in addition to the TCX flight number.

finding_nema 10th Apr 2009 21:32

Apparently a decision is to be announced this summer regarding the replacement for our Boeing 752s which are going off of lease over the next year or so, and 4 Airbus A320s which are coming toward the end of their lease.

goldeneye 11th Apr 2009 12:22

I assume for a 757 replacement they will be looking at more A321 as its the closest to the size. Then again the Canadian flights contract is pretty lucrative for them, so they may opt to extend the leases on the ER 757's anyway.

I guess any decision will be a groupwide order for the UK, Belgian, Scandinavian and Germans fleets.

celso75 11th Apr 2009 17:11

I very much doubt we'll see an order for A321s! They may be the closest in size to the 757, but with the decline of so many operators and tour operators, an exact replacement isn't so necessary. Besides, a lot of the 757s have a few more years left in them yet.

finding_nema 11th Apr 2009 21:19

As mentioned, although the A321 is fine capacity wise to replace the B757, there are a number of missions that the Airbus cannot do, which makes it an unattractive replacement. The word from the last webchat was that a decision is being made to replace as many as 10 aircraft whose leases end over the next year or so, which apparently is 6 757s and 4 A320s. Whether they extend their leases or bring in new types or new examples hasn't been announced, but it was suggested that the airline is in talks with both manufacturers angling for the best deal. Presumably, this would affect Thomas Cook in Belgium and Scandinavia, as well as Condor's fleet too.

Envoy320 15th Apr 2009 16:00

To be honest, I don't think there is an aircraft that is comparable to the 757 when you look at the routes it can operate....

Tricky one to solve really......

The obvious way is 767 or A330 for the canadian routes but that means increasing the capacity....
OR
A321 / B737 ......and sell the canadian flights to a 3rd party.....

I know which my money is on.....and it isn't on growth!

OliWW 15th Apr 2009 17:42

I for one know what you mean.

The B738 doesnt compare to the B752, even though some airlines replace the B738 with B752. I mean, at these stages TCX are only getting rid of a few B752, so luckly they wont be selling out to other companies for Canada routes yet, I would have thought that the B752 that go might even be replaced by B739ER

FlyingFromTheUK 16th Apr 2009 16:05

Interview
 
Has anyone got interview coming up next week for the position of cabin crew, based at LGW?

I applied few days ago and got phone call today asking me to come for interview next tues at 15:30

FL370 Officeboy 16th Apr 2009 16:24

interview for..............................?? :confused:

Envoy320 17th Apr 2009 08:12

I would assume interview for cabin crew as this is exactly what is mentioned in the post:ugh::ugh::ugh:


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