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OliWW 18th Dec 2008 21:01

I didnt think a looming recession would put Thomas Cook off from having a christmas livery. Flew into Bournemouth this morning to operate Enontekio tomorrow morning, starting santa flights until 29th december now...

take a look for yourselves... found on Jetphotos.net
JetPhotos.Net Photo » OO-TCJ (CN: 1787) Thomas Cook Airlines Belgium Airbus A320-214 by jordi steeno (mk)

goldeneye 18th Dec 2008 21:18

That paint scheme is on a Thomas Cook Airlines Belgium (FQ) Airbus and is not Thomas Cook Airlines UK (TCX). They are two totally different airlines with there own management, crew etc - they are just both owned by The Thomas Cook Group plc (which also included Condor, Condor Berlin and Thomas Cook Scandinavia).

OliWW 19th Dec 2008 06:29

Yes im aware of airlines around...

When I mentioned it I automaticly thought that Thomas Cook Belgium would have come into mind as they always have the special liveries and not Thomas Cook UK

RoyHudd 26th Dec 2008 20:46

New Livery
 
TCX Summer 2009 livery is....Orange, Blue and White...yes, a new combination of the recent colours of the 2 component companies. Heard it from the Account Exec at the agency looking after the airline account. Saw a few roughs, some look quite nice. Final detail still being hammered out. Chairman's wife approval committee, etc. Should be lovely! (hopefully)

No name change.

celso75 26th Dec 2008 21:21

Anyone else catch the blatant advertising during the Christmas Special of The Royale Family? I bet Manny couldn't believe his luck!

CabinCrewe 26th Dec 2008 21:55

So long as the livery transition isnt as long and protracted as the Airtours Mytravel debacle. That was a farce with 3 or four different liveres on the go at the one time. Came across as cheap and second class.

finding_nema 26th Dec 2008 22:10

Presumably now one of the 767s is being used as a standby aircraft for the entire fleet next summer, the money for a new livery is coming from not having to sub in a substantial amount of our flying programme next summer?

goldeneye 27th Dec 2008 12:49

I doubt Thomas Cook will be looking to change the colour scheme of the airline, TCX, DE, FQ & DK use the company colours of the Thomas Cook Group. Surely if this is happening it will mean a new company logo, colours and branding for the whole of the TC group, ie Airline, Stores, resort coaches, tour operators etc.

Tigger4Me 27th Dec 2008 15:17

As resort staff we've been testing out a new uniform this year in similar colours to those mentioned by Roy Hudd. I've no doubt that it will come in but have to state a preference for the current colours. Any news from CC as to any new uniform for next year?

celso75 27th Dec 2008 16:50

The 767 is being used to cover the long haul A330 fleet, not the entire fleet!

finding_nema 28th Dec 2008 13:13

Hi celso and Tigger,

Sorry if wires have been crossed, but at the Thomas Cook cabin crew conference at the beginning of December at BHX, we were told that one of the 767s would be operating a full programme as with this summer, and the other one would have a slot one departure three days a week, and the rest of the time would be a standby aircraft for the entire fleet, like the DC-10 at MyTravel, as it has the capacity to sub in for all other types.

Cabin crew did have a uniform questionnaire to fill out about how to make the uniform more wearable and durable. Not sure that this information is being used to design a new uniform, rather to improve the current quality offered by our uniform provider.

Envoy320 29th Dec 2008 08:57

The 767 will be used to cover the whole fleet.....think logically....

If an A320 with 180 seats goes tech.....why not use a larger aircraft to cover it.....would you expect the airline to sub the flight instead?!!!

As for the new colour scheme.....don't hold your breath......They have only just painted the whole of the mytravel fleet into the current scheme....

New uniforms on the other hand......keep looking around April time!!

finding_nema 29th Dec 2008 12:09

I would have thought if Thomas Cook were announcing a corporate re-branding they would have been making a much bigger noise about it, and given the state of the economy, I doubt it has to be high on the corporate agenda, but who knows?

At the conference we were told that the uniform is due for a revamp next summer with better quality materials, and maybe some extra uniform items added (ie please do away with the tank top and give us a proper jumper or cardie!), but a new uniform was still some time away. Interesting.

Alwaysairbus 29th Dec 2008 19:16

"TCX Summer 2009 livery is....Orange, Blue and White..."

I don't think they'll be adding any more orange to TCX..if anything it's getting repainted as each week goes on. Stick to blue and white and leave the orange to Easyjet.

Envoy320 2nd Jan 2009 10:27

The Thomas Cook globe has orange on it......that's probably as much orange as will be seen!!

K.Whyjelly 29th Jan 2009 15:47

I've tried a search and Google wasn't my friend this time. Anybody know what routes the A330's fly out of Manchester (Caribbean i know but what islands), and while I'm asking what other routes do TCX fly out of MAN on smaller Airbus
Ta

TCX69 29th Jan 2009 21:36

Thomas Cook Fleet Bases Sum09
 
Just trying to work out where the TCX fleet will be based this summer...

A320 - 12 (+1 on order)

A321 - 3 (+1 on order)

A332 - 7
GLA-1 , LGW-3 , MAN-3

B752 - 14
BHX-3

B753 - 2
LGW-1 , MAN-1

B763 - 2
LGW-1 , MAN-1

Anyone can help with the rest? Also the YYZ flights on the 757, which A/C are in this config now? Know it used to be FCLH/J but that was prob a while ago!

Thanks

goldeneye 29th Jan 2009 22:12

TCX A330 longhaul flights from Manchester.

Mexico - Cancun
Dominican Republic - Puerto Plata, Punta Cana
Jamaica - Montego Bay
Cuba - Holguin, Varadero, Cayo Coco, Cayo Santa Maria
USA - Sanford, Las Vegas
Canada - Vancouver, Calgary

Also India - Goa during winter months.

TCX A330 also operate the odd short-haul along side special charters for Cruise Lines ie P&O Cruises or Ocean Village to Acapulco, Miami and Barbados from time to time.

Kestrel_Stu 30th Jan 2009 09:39


Just trying to work out where the TCX fleet will be based this summer
(Change vs. summer 2008)

A320
1 BFS (-1)
2 BRS
2 EMA
3 LGW (+1)
2 MAN (+1)
1 LBA
1 STN
12 TOTAL (+1)

A321
1 CWL
1 LGW
2 MAN
4 TOTAL

B752 (235Y)
3 BHX
3 GLA
1 LGW (-1)
3 MAN
3 NCL (+1)
13 TOTAL

B752 (187Y)
1 GLA
1 LGW
1 MAN
3 TOTAL

B753
2 LGW
2 TOTAL

B763
2 MAN*
2 TOTAL

A332
1 GLA
3 LGW
3 MAN
7 TOTAL

A333
1 LGW (+1)
1 TOTAL (+1)

44 GRAND TOTAL (+2)

* 1 B763 @ MAN is a standby aircraft for most of the week.
Otherwise B763 does shorthaul again this year.
The A333 @ LGW shares a flying line with MAN for part of the week.
YYZ flights are on the 757 (Y187) with the occasional A333 from LGW/MAN.
No idea which 757s will be Y187 aircraft this summer but last year it was G-FCLH/I/J I think.

goldeneye 30th Jan 2009 19:05

I take it then that a DK A333 is coming to the UK and not spending the Summer with Skyservice in Canada this year.

Robini 30th Jan 2009 20:42


I take it then that a DK A333 is coming to the UK and not spending the Summer with Skyservice in Canada this year.
DK A333 will be as normally based in different Scandinavian cities during the
summer and the only DK A332 will be in UK. Of course the A333: s comming
to the UK from time to time, but they are not based there during the summers.

Kestrel_Stu 31st Jan 2009 10:17

Yes the A333 based LGW this summer is the one which normally goes to Canada for the summer. This will be in addition to the regular DK A332 so 2 scandi 330s with TCX this summer.

OliWW 31st Jan 2009 15:36

What aircraft with the MON be at EMA which at the moment operates DLM and SSH

CentreFix25 31st Jan 2009 16:28


What aircraft with the MON be at EMA which at the moment operates DLM and SSH
This is a Thomas Cook thread, should post to, or look for the answer to your question on the Monarch thread. My bet without doing any digging would be A320.

OliWW 31st Jan 2009 19:28

I put it in the TCX thread because both these flights are operated by TCX on a MON aircraft!

CentreFix25 31st Jan 2009 20:42

What type of aircraft currently/previously operated the routes then? Might be a bit of a pointer!

OliWW 31st Jan 2009 20:46

It will be the first time MON will be operating out of EMA, but on behalf of TCX, In Jul/Aug TCX use BD with a A320/A321

Cloud1 31st Jan 2009 21:14

Are TCX operating any flights into Exeter summer 09? Rumours on the apron suggest they will have a 'reasonable' presence despite having 2 a/c based up the road in BRS. Are there any W pattern flights using TCX aircraft?

G-STAW 31st Jan 2009 23:46

evening guys,

servisair commenced ground handling with TCX at MAN about 15 minutes ago, look forward to working with you guys....

G-STAW

Kestrel_Stu 1st Feb 2009 09:46

EXT will see a weekly (Sat) A320 do Palma on a W pattern from BRS. Starts 2 May till end Sep.

NWI and EDI also get W patterns this summer, but LTN and LPL will not.

Cloud1 1st Feb 2009 11:45

Many thanks Kestrel Stu - not what I would consider a 'reasonable presence' but thats the Exeter folk for you - overexcited about little things ;)

With any luck, now that we have lost Futura, TCX may operate additional services if the PMI goes well.

OliWW 1st Feb 2009 12:09

I think the handover at EMA was about 2.15am

MarkBHX 1st Feb 2009 12:20

The MON flights out of EMA are showing as a capacity of 229Y, so I'm guessing B757, operated by MON on behalf of TC Holidays.

Apparently TCX are subbing in for Air Slovakia BHX-BTS tonight, anyone have more info??

Psr777 1st Feb 2009 15:57

Update on TCX A330 Summer schedule
 
Monday

MAN - CUN, SFB
LGW - VRA, MBJ, POP
GLA - CUN

Tuesday

MAN - CUN, SFB
LGW - CCC, SFB, HOG, YVR(A333)
GLA - POP

Wednesday

MAN - CUN, HOG, LAS
LGW - CUN, PUJ, YVR(A333)
GLA - YVR

Thursday

MAN - CCC, SFB, PUJ
LGW - YYC, CUN, YVR, YYZ(A333)
GLA - SFB

Friday

MAN - YVR, SNU/CUN, VRA
LGW - YYC, YVR, SFB, YYC(A333)
GLA - SFB

Saturday

MAN - SFB, POP ,YVR
LGW - YVR, SFB, YYC, YYZ(A333)
GLA - SFB

Sunday

MAN - MBJ, LAS, YYC
LGW - CUN, POP, YVR, YYZ(A333)

goldeneye 1st Feb 2009 18:24

Does anyone know if the A333 is operating in with the standard A332 seating, ie 33" in Y and 35" in C, with the seat back TV's.

Kestrel_Stu 1st Feb 2009 18:27


Update on TCX A330 Summer schedule
You forgot:

Monday

LGW - DLM(A333)

Yes, you read right - Dalaman in an A330-300!

Robini 1st Feb 2009 18:33


Dalaman in an A330-300!
Oh god....A330-300 in the UK is not normal...but to DLM?!?!This is insane!

airhumberside 1st Feb 2009 19:07


NWI and EDI also get W patterns this summer, but LTN and LPL will not.
HUY and DSA have also gained w patterns this summer. DSA-DLM and HUY-PMI/DLM. Dont know were from or what aircraft type though

Kestrel_Stu 1st Feb 2009 20:16


HUY and DSA have also gained w patterns this summer. DSA-DLM and HUY-PMI/DLM. Dont know were from or what aircraft type though
Indeed - DSA actually gains DLM (Wed/A320) and MIR (Sun/B752). Both are W patterns from MAN-based aircraft.

HUY gets PMI (Sat/B752), DLM (Sun/A320) and AYT (Sun/B752), again MAN W patterns with the exception of PMI which is a LGW aircraft.

CentreFix25 2nd Feb 2009 06:30


Oh god....A330-300 in the UK is not normal...but to DLM?!?!This is insane!
No.

There's a thread starter for you, long haul aircraft flying short haul routes. I can think of A330s flying shorter sectors.


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