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Flaperon75 4th Nov 2008 23:18

How many TCX A320/A321 based at LGW?

Crewing's Slave 5th Nov 2008 09:31

All is under review since XL demise.

Results should be out soon....... Within a week or so.

Mr A Tis 5th Nov 2008 09:32

Any plans for the TCX ETOPS 757s that ply the Toronto routes being fitted with winglets. Given their high transatlantic useage would it be cost effective for them?

Envoy320 5th Nov 2008 10:20

Cardiff has an A320 based for 4 days a week this winter and it then generally goes to Leeds for the rest of the week.

Bristol has a permanently based A320.

Gatwick has just 1 x A321 based for the winter and no A320's.

As for the winglets....They cannot be added on to the B757's due to their leases and the costs involved wouldn't make themn viable before their leases ran out - so in short - No TCX winglets on their current 757's

Flaperon75 5th Nov 2008 10:36

So if none in Gatwick, where are the 11 A320's based?

Envoy320 5th Nov 2008 10:51

Glasgow has one, manchester has one, EMA has 2 and the rest have buggered off for the winter as they do every year!!

BFS101 5th Nov 2008 16:10

BFS has a based 320 for the winter also

Welsh Bobby 5th Nov 2008 16:48

Tcx @ Cwl
 
Can anyone 'in the know' answer my query at post 239 re winter 09/10?

Crewing's Slave 5th Nov 2008 17:04

Welsh Bob,

Think you'll find not even the CEO knows what aircraft CWL will have next winter....

This winter, it's half a 320.

transwede 5th Nov 2008 18:24

Still 2 757 at NCL (though much reduced programme for winter as is the norm) and do not expect it to change for next summer, despite gap in capacity left by XL.

Welsh Bobby 5th Nov 2008 20:06

Crewing's slave - thanks,understandable I suppose under present climate.
I see that the winter hols are on sale though for 09/10- how do I find the timetable schedule for TCX at CWL for 09/10? Doesnt seem easy to find on website unless you search under each destination and see if they do it?

caaardiff 5th Nov 2008 21:17

TCX dont actually provide a schedule. flythomascook.com shows destinations from each airport, but aside from searching each individual destination its not possible to view.
However so early before W09/10 anything could change. Remember TCX W08 schedule is only to the canaries, which TOM already serves on the same days, and practically the same times. Even if TCX do sell their holidays on their own flights, if they dont sell well this year, or things change, most pax could easily be reacommodated on TOM flights for next winter.
I'm sure if this year is a success there is a much higher chance of a permanent base at CWL for next winter

ROSSKi MYT 5th Nov 2008 21:22

ENVOY320

Glasgow has 2 x 757 based this winter, not A320.

Aso for summer 09- 4 x 757 and 1 x A330

Envoy320 6th Nov 2008 08:17

Rosski myt...

Indeed there are 2 x 757's throughout the winter but the A320 is set to be a fairly regular visitor to GLA from late December through to February.

jpoldens 6th Nov 2008 12:09

Brs - Dlm
 
Anyone care to speculate on the possibility of EZY, TOM or TCX picking up the XL slots from Bristol to Greece and Turkey for 2009/10?

Hudson Bay 9th Nov 2008 15:58

Thomas Cook Engine Failure
 
A320 G-CRPH, Manchester - Tenerife, 7 November 2008

Engine failed at rotation.

Anybody know any more?

Was it those wood pigeons that mess about halfway down 23L?

one post only! 9th Nov 2008 16:53

Yes. It was indeed a pair of wood pigeons, Harold and Clarence. Rumour is that they had just been for a couple of pints of John Smiths in town and were heading back home. Apparently they tried to sneak across the runway without clearance. It is not known if either of them had their transponders turned on. What makes it worse is that Harold was on the phone to his wife at the time. Apparently his last words were “this will make the buggers late!!!”
They were both married with several chicks to support. RIP!

richardnei 9th Nov 2008 20:13

The same a/c was also involved in an engine failure BFS-ACE on 6Nov. G-CRPH was in the air for over 1hour when it happaned. It then diverted to Man for an emergency landing.

Jimmy2345 11th Nov 2008 16:40

Wierd!

I flew on that earlier this year :)

SFCC 11th Nov 2008 22:33

what? Harold?....

Envoy320 12th Nov 2008 08:22

Why is it "Wierd" that you flew on that aircraft this year?

Thousands and thousands of people have flown on that aircraft this year and many other years.

Hardly "wierd" is it?

Flaperon75 12th Nov 2008 10:44

STN
 
Can anyone tell me what TCX aircraft are based at STN this winter (and perhaps speculate what might be there next summer)

ta

lutonboi 12th Nov 2008 11:28

heard a rumour that tcx are thinking of re-opening there base at luton airport next summer
anyone know if there is any thruth in this?
cheers

blueplatinum 12th Nov 2008 13:04


Why is it "Wierd" that you flew on that aircraft this year?

Thousands and thousands of people have flown on that aircraft this year and many other years.

Hardly "wierd" is it?
Well he's only 14 so probably hasn't flown that many times. It probably is quite wierd that an a/c he has been on has popped up on a forum he is into. Give him a break.

papa600 12th Nov 2008 15:14

Exactly.

Wind your neck in Envoy 320.:=

Envoy320 13th Nov 2008 13:54

Maybe i was a bit harsh.....

STN by the way, has a single based A321 for the winter 08/09 season and it's expected to stay like that throughout Summer 2009.

LTN is a 50/50 possibility with a based A320

Flaperon75 13th Nov 2008 17:59

thanks for the info on STN Envoy - i actually realised the info was a few pages back - i somehow managed to miss first time :O

Psr777 13th Nov 2008 20:34

STN will have an A320 for Summer 2009.

OliWW 30th Nov 2008 17:28

Will TCX be having a special theme on one of there aircraft again for the Santa Flights, last year it was on Thomas Cook Belgium are there plans for another design?

Envoy320 1st Dec 2008 10:35

no special paint expected unfortunately.....credit crunch hits again!

BYALPHAINDIA 1st Dec 2008 18:59

Well that's a 'Bit' stupid of TCX!!

What about a set of transfers with 'santa' on the side for 2 weeks?

Credit Crunch = It's all media spin, Yule wouldn't think there was a 'Credit Crunch when you go into LEEDS/MANCHESTER on a Saturday and It's crowded with shoppers spending money like water on 'Silly' Xmas!!

People cry poor, As a motivation to make more money!!

(The obvious is not always the apparent)

No Santa titles = Is TCX going 'silly' or what?

OliWW 1st Dec 2008 19:11

Thank you BYALPHAINDIA

It was only a light hearted yes or no answer

BYALPHAINDIA 1st Dec 2008 19:20

Okay, No worries.

(I'm not a great lover of Xmas) It goes on too long for me.LOl

I'm already fed up of it already, I can't get excited about it all.Lol

Regards.

luvly jubbly 2nd Dec 2008 09:49

What credit crunch??
 
Nice profit on the trading year TCX! Congrats.

LJ

Alwaysairbus 2nd Dec 2008 13:10

Group profits good and hopfully ensuring not to many cutbacks . Woud like to see how the MYT run airline bit did though....

Envoy320 2nd Dec 2008 14:02

I think you will find that TCX is no longer a "MYT run airline" - vast majority of higher up people or now ex-TCX - Hence the profit i assume!!

BYALPHAINDIA 4th Dec 2008 01:56

Is that with 'Sault' as well?

Regards.

RoyHudd 4th Dec 2008 08:23

Envoy 320...your posting demonstrates the attitude which causes so much acrimony between ex-TCX and ex-MYT pilots. It causes CRM problems when on the ground and in the air when manifested. Grow up, son. And stop your petty sniping here.

Envoy320 4th Dec 2008 09:24

Roy....

2 things.....

CRM problems in the air generally are caused when people dont get on or people have attitudes and are unapproachable.....sounds like that could ring a bell roy baby!

Secondly....you sound like a right idiot.....glad i don't know you personally.

Jonty 4th Dec 2008 10:35


Just out of interest Envoy, on the flying side of things:

MD: ex myt
DFO: ex myt
Chief Pilot: Now external, was ex myt as of a few weeks ago
Training Mgr: ex myt
Fleet Ops mgrs: Both myt
Fleet mgrs: One myt + one tcx.
Crewing:ex myt
Hotac: ex myt

"I think you'll find" that there are far more myt bods making the decisions than anyone else in the airline.
The above is indeed (or was) true.

As things stand now:

MD: ex myt
DFO: ex myt (but for how long?)
CP: external (wonder why the ex myt chap went?)
Training manager: (do we have one?) allegedly ex MYT
Fleet Ops Mgrs: under notice
Fleet Mgrs: one tcx, one myt
Base Pilot mgrs: under notice
Crewing: Ex TCX (Jane)
Rostering: EX TCX (Jeremy)
HOTAC: Rumour has it the chap (LMYT) was fired about a month ago. Hopefully someone has already phoned Alison!

One wonders why these changes were made, if our management were as wonderful as they claimed!

However, getting away from this LMYT and LTCX crap, we all now fly for one airline and work for one tour operator. Its about time we all tried to make this airline one we would all like to work for and stop harping on about the past! :ugh:


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