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WHBM 2nd May 2009 09:54


Originally Posted by ihadcontrol (Post 4900335)
When i booked the flights, only 4 weeks ago, I booked 9:30 so this change has only happened in the past few weeks - if it was months and months in advance i'd understand.

Doesn't work like that.

There is a brochure/marketing departure time, which never gets changed during the season. You can find mid-season the holidays still being sold to the original details when the flight series was changed long before. Differences to the brochure/booking details only get advised to theose travelling the standard 2 weeks beforehand. It is a partciular issue at the beginning/end of the season, when a range of different arrangements are made, consolidations, etc, but the advertised details are still those standard for the whole season.

Welsh Bobby 2nd May 2009 12:05

Tcx @ Cwl
 
With the addition of SSH and MIR to TCX W09/10 CWL schedule,will this now mean a full time based unit for the winter?

Will TCX be doing any long haul from CWL for S10....definite market especially SFB? TOM have been so inconsistent and unreliable there.

plaincrazy 2nd May 2009 22:43

Tcx @ Cwl
 
Hi Welsh Bobby, from what i can gather the MIR route will be provided by a W pattern aircraft and cant see them operating SSH on A320, so it will same as W08/09 with once aircraft based 4days a week

BFS101 3rd May 2009 13:17

For winter 09/10 TCX is operating a flight to SSH from BFS. BFS usually gets a based A320 over the winter and this still appears to be the case, with times to suit a based unit.

However the Thursday ACE flight operates 10.40 - 20.35. On the same dates SSH flight operates 09.00 - 22.25, so operated by a different aircraft. Do you know what aircraft SSH will be operated by?? 757?

Torque2 4th May 2009 16:32

Yes, SSH to be operated by 757.

conti onepass 5th May 2009 18:19

rescue 767
 
what the rescue 767 about as in previous thread. is the all white one with basic thomas cook titles on it????. if it is flew back on this today TCX534L from palma, full flight, half of the toilets did not work, over row 20b a large amount of water dripped out of roof on takeoff... but the cabin crew were lovely.

Welsh Bobby 5th May 2009 18:53

Will the winter 09/10 SSH from CWL be operated by a 757?

cabot 6th May 2009 09:33

Belfast - 1x A320

Birmingham - 3x B752

Bristol - 2x A320

Cardiff - 1x A321

East Midlands - 2x A320

London Gatwick - 3x A320 (3rd not due until 05 Jun 09), 1x A321, 2x B752, 2x B753, 3x A332, 1x A333

Manchester - 2x A320, 2x A321, 4x B752, 2x B763, 3x A332

Glasgow - 4x B752, 1x A332

Leeds Bradford - 1x A320

London Stansted - 1x A320

Newcastle


Can anyone throw light on which A332 is based in GLA or are they rotated as an when required ? Are all TCX 332's fitted with seat back screens or not ?

Envoy320 6th May 2009 09:52

SSH will be B757 from CWL

Rescue 767 is a figure of speech....2 767's operate for TCX, only 1 of them is scheduled for 100% of the week, the other for approx 50% of the week, leaving 50% of the week available as a spare aircraft.
It is either 767 - not a specific one.

the GLA A332 will be rotated and they all have seatback TV's

cabot 6th May 2009 09:55

Reason i was asking was because on July 7th i'm on GLA-POP flight and i understand a 332 was/is to be used.Just curious as to which aircraft was to be used.

Envoy320 6th May 2009 10:09

GLA - POP will be on the A330-200 but it will be end of June or early July before the aircraft will be rostered for that flight and even then is subject to change right up to the last second!

pug 11th May 2009 16:00

Anyone care to speculate as to why TCX have completely pulled out from HUY for the winter season? Despite consistently high load factors? Is it just not cost effective to do w-patterns just for the sake of a couple of weekly flights or is it that other operators are scaling back and they would be left to fill the seats on their own?

Thanks in advance.

Envoy320 11th May 2009 16:02

have they ever operated through humberside in the winter?

I thought it was a summer only operation

airhumberside 11th May 2009 17:34

I think this is the first summer TCX have operated into HUY. We have had JMC Air and MYT in summer but not TCX

TCX outbased a B757 at HUY for the first time for Winter 2007/08 operating ACE/TFS. This continued into Winter 2008/09 with part season LPA/FUE/LCA/DLM added. Up until last week full season ACE/TFS and a longer LPA season was on sale for Winter 2009/10

John Boeman 11th May 2009 18:42

If I am remembering correctly;
Flying Colours = JMC = TCX.
Airtours = MYT + TCX ≥ TCX
So I guess it's still JMC and MYT flying in there. :)
(Somebody makes alot of money out of those name changes).

Kestrel_Stu 11th May 2009 18:58

Don't forget Airworld, Caledonian and Inter European.

Some of our pilots have now been through 4 name changes with the "same" company!

Psr777 11th May 2009 21:15

  • Airworld absorbed into Flying Colours Airlines.
  • Goldcrest International, Peach Air absorbed into Caledonian Airways.
  • Flying Colours Airlines and Caledonian Airways merged and rebranded JMC Air.
  • JMC Air rebranded Thomas Cook Airlines.
  • Inter-European absorbed into Airtours international, which rebranded to Mytravel Airways.
  • Mytravel Airways and Thomas Cook Airlines merged to form Thomas Cook Airlines.

I wish I had the patent on aircraft paint!!!! ;)

goldeneye 11th May 2009 22:22

I have a feeling that the TCX flights from HUY over thw winter were operated because of FUA going under who were supposed to operate these for Thomas Cook Tour Operations.


Psr77

Peach was a low cost subsidiary of Caledonian Airways CKT and operated under its own code of KGC. They operated L1011's leased from Air Atlanta and B737's leased from Sabre. Goldcrest was never an airline just a broker.

They were shut down by the parent company Inspirations Holidays (Carlson) when they were bought/merged with Thomas Cook in late 1998.

airhumberside 12th May 2009 11:25

TCX HUY Winter flights started in November 2007 when Futura were still flying. The TCX outbased aircraft took over Lanzarote from Air Europa and replaced a TFS w pattern that MYT did the previous winter

Psr777 12th May 2009 19:15

Goldeneye:

Although Goldcrest International was a broker, and it employed cabin crew as an separate company,as well as using aircraft supplied by Air Atlanta, they were also trained and operated on Caledonian Airways aircraft when the need arose. When Goldcrest was "closed" those cabin crew, were absorbed into Caledonian Airways or some went to Peach Air.

Peach Air was actually a "brand" set up by an Inspirations director, with the same colours to the Sunmed brand, and although they only flew Air Atlanta and Sabre aircraft, again when they were "closed" the cabin crew were absorbed into Caledonian Airways.

I was trying to show that the number of mergers and amalgamation over the last 10 years with TCX on the cabin crew side has been higher than the norm.

Rgds

TSR2 12th May 2009 22:06

I recall travelling on a Caledonian L1011 that had the central luggage bins removed throughout the aircraft. Gave a tremendous spacious feeling but nowhere to store bags.

Kestrel_Stu 14th May 2009 13:37


Does anyone know if and when TCX are getting back 767-300 G-DIMB from Monarch?
April 2010.

Envoy320 14th May 2009 15:39

it will deffo be back with TCX in Apr 2010 or sold....

mickey71 14th May 2009 22:53

just been looking at the mytravel/thomas cook site for holidays in particular stansted for summer 2010,cannot find any flights ex stansted!anyone know anything????

goldeneye 15th May 2009 05:38

mickey71

Summer 2010 is not on sale and wont be for a about another month at least.
TCUK and TUI travel are holding back the launch of Summer 2010 with th exception of the longhaul flying ie CUN, POP, SFB, LAS etc.

OliWW 15th May 2009 10:25

anyone know what is wrong wiv MA, has gone tech in PMI with a 10hr delay PMI-EMA?

Envoy320 15th May 2009 11:00

a delay of that length is usually not as bad as it sounds....crews go out of hours and then need 10hrs hotel before opertaing again....

it could be a 3 or 4 hr delay (bad enough!)

Tigger4Me 15th May 2009 12:02

MA has a hole in the side thanks to the guy driving the steps up to the rear door forgetting to stop in time. Flight is being covered by Astreus and pax being wined and dined in a local hotel while they wait for the replacement aircraft.

Kestrel_Stu 15th May 2009 12:28

Are you referring to -YA? I'm pretty sure we don't have a -MA.

OliWW 15th May 2009 12:38

Yes, sorry, got the letters mixed up, its G-OMYA

:ok:

lee757 15th May 2009 23:24

TCX 757-300 at MAN/ LBA Aircraft 320 or MAN 330
 
Hi

Anyone know what routes Thomas Cook are using the 757-300 on this summer (roughly september time) - i know types can change just wondering if there are specific routes from Manchester it goes for the summer season.

Also is the A320 based at Leeds Bradford a particular plane or does it always change. Heard they are a bit of a mess inside???

Also on the off chance anyone know if either Thomas Cook or Monarch use the A330's on short haul routes on a regular basis - from Manchester also.

Cheers for any help

SAM-EMA 15th May 2009 23:45

Both TCX 753's are based at LGW for S09, so no routes will be 753 operated from MAN.

SAM-EMA

lee757 15th May 2009 23:50

just read this too - dam it!

maybe i'll end up back on FCLA where ever its ended up this year.

330 320 or 752 it is then lol

MUFC_fan 16th May 2009 00:01

Thomas Cook use their 767 on European/Egypt flights over the summer and I think Monarch will do the same on some flights.

The A330s usually will come in from the Caribbean in the morning and sometimes, instead of sitting on the tarmac all day waiting for a flight out to Male, they may be put on a return leg to PMI or AGP etc. I think Thomson do this quite often...

SAM-EMA 16th May 2009 00:03

You won't be just limited to the above, MAN has the following a/c based for S09: 2x A320, 2x A321, 4x B752, 2x B763 and 3x A332 - it will of course depend where you are travelling to.

SAM-EMA

TSR2 16th May 2009 07:12

Monarch use the A330 to Luxor and Sharm el Sheikh from Manchester.

Mr @ Spotty M 16th May 2009 08:42

Monarch to use the A330 from MAN on the following Shorthaul flights.
LXR on Mondays, LCA & KGS on Wednesdays, SSH on Thursdays & Sundays.
The B767 to ACE on Thursdays & SSH on Saturdays.
The B767 operates more flights out of LGW this summer than MAN.:ok:

LBA 16th May 2009 10:23

The current based A320 at LBA is G-BYTH, and certainly isn't a mess inside.

lee757 16th May 2009 14:29

oh not hoping for 767 at all (unless its a thomson one), not been on since the monarch one which was a mess, think its ex airtours/mytravel isnt it, and from memory TCX didnt operate them before they merged with MYT so if its another ex Myt one then i'd rather go on somethin else ;)

So MON do 330 on wed from manc to LCA interesting, is this all through summer then?

Also G-BYTH is ex mytravel too, have thomas cook refitted them or did it just get new paint. Never had good luck with flying on MYT always got the DC10 and was never that impressed.

I'd try and get on a Thomson 767 but would be gutted if it wasn't the longhaul config ones or the FCA ones. Don't they have 767 specifically with a short haul config - the ones that had the world of tui scheme but then got updated too. Mind you still better then an MYT one lol

Anyone know exactly where these are flying this summer?

goldeneye 16th May 2009 20:07

I can find out what routes from MAN the A330 and the B187 are scheduled to operate this summer, but you will need to give me till monday.

I know that the Sunday Dalaman from Glasgow is the A330 if that helps.


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