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spaul66 16th May 2009 21:18

While we are on tcx what A33o are based at Man and anbody any ideas which one will be used on the 28th may for man to ccc

lee757 16th May 2009 22:27

cheers goldeneye, sounds good im not in a rush anyway

thanks for having a look

Envoy320 18th May 2009 11:45

where are u going in september...easier that way to tell you what you are going to fly on than list every Manchester route!!

goldeneye 18th May 2009 18:07

Lee757

There are no A330 scheduled to operate any short-haul flights this summer, unless its a last min change for operational reasons.

These flights are to be operated by the Boeing 757-200 in the Canadian configuration of 35" seat pitch.

Monday - TCX63K/L 0600 PMI
Tuesday - TCX426K/L 0815 PMI
Thursday - TCX420K/L 0650 FAO
Friday - TCX402K 0915 IBZ
Saturday - TCX490K PMI

Manchester short-haul is being operated by Boeing 757-200 (187), Boeing 757-200, Boeing 767, Airbus A320 and A321's this summer.

lee757 18th May 2009 21:07

thanks for checking that out golden eye

:ok:

ihadcontrol 18th May 2009 21:55

Sure I seen a TCX 330 at Las Palmas today, short haul flight really.
I was far away tho'

flyinthesky 19th May 2009 07:18

Lee 757

Not entirely sure what your problem with ex-MYT aircraft is. If the 767 that is with MON was a mess, then that's Monarchs issue. They are responsible for the upkeep. With regards to the smaller ex-MYT aircraft, they were all refitted with leather seating pre merger and certainly in the last summer pre-merger we carried the lowest number of defects I have seen on any carrier I have worked for.

If you want a squeeky clean a/c, then fly on an operator that only uses it for 10 hours a day. Ours are heavily used, and yes sometimes the cleaning isn't absolutely spot on but the interiors are all pretty good. The worst part is normally the Flight Deck!!! :\

Envoy320 19th May 2009 08:40

In my opinion, the important part of the upkeep of ALL aircraft is to keep it flying safely. If the turnround is tight and the cleaning isnt up to scratch...so be it. If its safe and airworthy...who cares about a bit of mess now and again.

The A330 will not operate shorthaul this September from Manchester.

And there were no A330's in LPA yesterday....A320,A321, B752 only

OliWW 19th May 2009 09:18

Sorry if this seems like a spotters question, but I asked it on the spotting area and never got a reply, but does anyone know what aircraft/reg will be operating EMA-MAH this coming Sunday?, Got a feeling it might be G-KKAZ?

RoyHudd 19th May 2009 09:21

Rubbish
 
Who cares about a mess? The passengers, Cabin Crew, and Pilots. Dirty a/c leads to slipshod standards. Not having a pop at Envoy, just presenting the view from the workers at the coalface. Cleanliness IS important as part of a good safety culture. Most of us who fly believe that. (Not the OTP fanatics, naturally)

Envoy320 19th May 2009 13:19

OLiWW

Whichever aircraft thats in Belfast today is scheduled to operate out of EMA on Sunday....
arrives quite late thurs night/fri morning from BFS but it doesnt change over every week...depends on maintenance....delays etc...

OliWW 19th May 2009 14:22

G-FTDF then. Cheers, Flown on G-KKAZ for the past 2 years!!

Envoy320 19th May 2009 16:21

but as i say...it doesnt ALWAYS change over.....

but i bet u hope it does!!

viscount702 22nd May 2009 18:17

Are TCX still operating the MAN-YYZ with the B752 (187) on a daily basis because it is not showing as daily on the TCX website(when I last looked) but is on the CA website.

Also there is supposedly an addition flight on Saturday TCX 143 which is operated by the LGW based 333. What is the routing of this flight and does it do any other flights from MAN because there seems to be no inbound YYZ-MAN

celso75 22nd May 2009 20:54

I think you can safely say it's scrapped!

Photos: Boeing 757-225 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

ROSSKi MYT 26th May 2009 10:54

Has Glasgow-Banjul been scrapped for W09/10?

warkman 26th May 2009 19:19

This does not look good
In this article
Porsche on the financial brink - Telegraph

it says:
"The crisis is yet another headache for the German authorities as they put together a rescue deal this week for Opel, most likely with Fiat. Separately, the hotel and retail group Arcandor said it faced collapse without a €650m state bail-out. Arcandor's share price fell 20pc. The company owns the Karstadt department stores, Quelle, and Thomas Cook. It employs 50,000 workers."
Who would buy Thomas Cook?

goldeneye 26th May 2009 19:59

Could see Kuoni being interested in Arcandor's stake.
But then who know what will happen.

RoyHudd 26th May 2009 22:21

Oh Lord!
 
Thomas Cook is a major and profitable part of Arcandor...eminently saleable. Warkman, your conclusion is daft or mischevious...too much ignorant doom-saying going on at the moment.

Not all MP's are dishonest. By any means. Not all holiday companies are unprofitable today. Thomas Cook are profitable. Ditto TUI.

I believe you think Thomas Cook is an airline. Not so.

ROSSKi MYT 29th May 2009 22:40

Thomas Cook have now painted 767 G-DAJC into the full livery

JetPhotos.Net Photo » G-DAJC (CN: 27206) Thomas Cook Airlines Boeing 767-31K(ER) by Paul Massey

cabot 2nd Jun 2009 08:27

glasgow TCX operations
 
I noticed that TCX have a 332 based at GLW which arrived from Cancun this morning which goes out as TCX035K to Puerta Plata.Is this aircraft based the entire week in Glasgow or is it rotated with other bases ? What is the registration number of this aircraft if it is based for the summer season?

BYALPHAINDIA 2nd Jun 2009 09:09

I think it's full time based I remember reading?

The A/c will not always be the same Reg thou due to Maintanence or A/c Change over etc.

OliWW 2nd Jun 2009 09:20

G-MDBD is at GLA currently

goldeneye 2nd Jun 2009 18:16

The Glasgow A330 operates the following.

Monday - Cancun
Tuesday - Puerto Plata
Wednesday - Vancouver (Calgary part of season)
Thursay - Sanford
Friday - ?
Saturday - Sanford
Sunday - Dalaman

flybar 3rd Jun 2009 17:32

Thomas Cook owner may need state aid. - Doesn't read well

BBC NEWS | Business | Thomas Cook owner needs state aid

RoyHudd 3rd Jun 2009 18:20

Read the article before commenting, if you can read English.

bluepilot 4th Jun 2009 08:40

Roy Hudd, why so rude?

So Thomas Cook are unlikely to become insolvent due to its majority shareholder becoming insolvent.......however no matter how profitable Thomas Cook is there will be some uncertanty IF competitors use the situation for a takover bid for example. It really depends on who or what or how any administrators offload the Thomas Cook stock.

flybar 4th Jun 2009 11:47


Read the article before commenting, if you can read English.
I did read the article and can read english, thank you, however, having read the article I would like to know on what basis the following statement is made:


A Thomas Cook spokeswoman said it was "completely ring-fenced" from Arcandor.
I think that the administrators, should it get that far, might have a different view!!

RoyHudd 4th Jun 2009 12:00

Think before posting!
 
Pray tell, what would the administrators choose to do with a highly profitable corporate entity?

I do not wish to sound impolite, but am mighty fed up with continued scare-mongering about one of the few successful and profitable holiday companies in the UK. (Of which an airline is a key component).

It is all too easy to put down one-liners insinuating financial trouble for a successful company. Ill-conceived suggestions like this can lead to reactions which damge companies and ultimately cause unnecessary job losses.

Please be sensible when writing copy such as that above, which can be wrongly construed as serious.

Mouser 4th Jun 2009 19:03

Seat pitch
 
Can anyone tell me the seat pitch on TCX flights, as I'am using their Lanzarote service shortly, I usally use Easyjet and I'am quite happy with their legroom. TIA

flybar 4th Jun 2009 19:10


Pray tell, what would the administartors choose to do with a highly profitable corporate entity?

Sell it for as much money as possible!!

paully 4th Jun 2009 19:15

The story about Arcandor has been in the print media for some time (Broadsheet finance pages ) as the company has been in trouble for a long time. It overexposed itself buying big. Thomas Cook is a big part, Arcandor hold 52% of the shares and will probably get help, of some sort, from the German Government.

TC however is a well funded and viable ongoing concern. Even if the worst came to the worst (which I doubt) this company would continue without interruption. In the UK its part of a duopoly with Tui...for God`s sake who wouldnt buy into that.

TC will continue..

Jet2krazey 4th Jun 2009 19:43

757 seat pitch!
 
If its the 757 your flying on, dont bother its very tight! minimum 28in and the most uncomfortable flight ive ever had to Eygpt last year! :uhoh:

sunshine79 4th Jun 2009 19:52

At the time of working for MYT when the 'merge' went ahead, I said that Tui would buy TC within 5 years. That was May 2007, only 3 years left to go. I wonder what odds the bookies would give?

goldeneye 4th Jun 2009 21:25

The EC would never allow a merger of TUI & Thomas Cook.

TC are safe, there will be plenty of companies waiting in the wings to buy our Arcandors stake if it comes to it. Kuoni springs to mind.

MUFC_fan 4th Jun 2009 21:46

TUI and Thomas Cook merger would be like Coca Cola and Pepsi merging in Europe. It would be a HUGE monopoly on the charter market and the EC would say no to this more quickly that a AF/KL/LH merger...

ROSSKi MYT 4th Jun 2009 21:57


If its the 757 your flying on, dont bother its very tight! minimum 28in and the most uncomfortable flight ive ever had to Eygpt last year! http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/worry.gif
The seat pitch is what you get on your average charter flight. You get what you pay for. I am over 6ft and found it comfotable for the 4.5 hr flight to Rhodes.

BYALPHAINDIA 5th Jun 2009 01:51

True, But don't forget SSH is just that little bit further to travel than RHO and some flights can go upto 5 1/2 even 6 hours depending on routing/wx etc.

Not been able to overfly Libya makes the flight longer.

JamesKirk 5th Jun 2009 02:49

TCX seat pitch
 

The seat pitch is what you get on your average charter flight. You get what you pay for. I am over 6ft and found it comfotable for the 4.5 hr flight to Rhodes.
ROSSKi MYT you are in the minority regarding seat pitch, log onto airlinequality.com & go to the passenger reviews, virtually every comment on TCX complains about the seat pitch, was it just greed to squeeze in the extra seats for a 235 config on the 757's?

Remember flying on the A330 a few yrs ago & had trouble fitting in the seats (damaged the pocket rivets on my levi's) and could not bend forward enough to be able to pick up my pen from the floor. was one of the most uncomfortable flights i've every had, even the flight back from RAF Stanley on a full Herc, knee's interlinked with the guy across the aisle was better that this!!!:hmm::hmm:

Mouser 5th Jun 2009 07:18

Thanks for the replies, I do have concerns over leg room, having read reviews elsewere, although airline seat info from seat guru give 30" pitch which I'am quite happy with,that's if this info is correct which I'am begining to doubt given the amount of complaints.


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