presumably that means that early sales are going well then

Good move from Eurowings, timings could have been better as all flights arrive late into Munich so weekend breaks would be hard. Filling the void easyJet left when they reduced frequency in favour of Luton.

Yes STN Ramp Rat.....Jet2 describing customer reaction as "phenomenal"..Are also adding extra frequencies on 4 already announced routes taking the number of seats available ex STN for Summer 17 now to 875,000 = +8% over the original announcement...SS

I wonder who's losing out to Jet2. May explain why RYR are hurriedly moving into the holiday package business.

I think the biggest ones to take a hit at STN from this are the likes of Thomson and Thomas Cook.

At Luton there is a rumour that Thomas Cook may base a plane in 2018. Could one be leaving stansted and moving to LTN???

Which could mean that LTN could benefit from those airlines in S18.

Not that I want to start the old STN v LTN thing again but what really would Thomas Cook gain by partly moving to LTN? Part of the benefit of having 3 aircraft based is that they can offer more flexible durations and more destinations. It's not as though LTN is short of competition either (assuming Monarch stick around).

If I were Thomas Cook and had a spare plane laying around I'd make it 4 aircraft at STN and compete with Jet2 by adding some new destinations rather than put one into LTN.

From years of experience on here it's clear a lot of rumours are just individuals 'wish lists' often made up on here.

There are few regulars who actually know their stuff and you begin to know who they are over time.

Nothing to do with a wish. I'm telling you what I've been told and with Thomas Cook planning to do a Ibiza and Menorca but not having the plane availability at the moment. Not trying to throw anything into the mixer but just saying that Thomas Cook are looking at planning on basing a plane at LTN in 2018. This may be a plane from somewhere else or a new one or moving it from stansted due to the high competition. Jet2 are doing a very good job of pushing all airlines at stansted and what a gem for stansted to have. What it could of been for LTN if Jet2 had enough space to park any planes.

And the source of your 'rumour' please Boeing737-8?

I'm guessing that it's probably the first anyone has heard of it.

pamann

I think Boeing 738-8 is a perfect example of what you describe in your post 3775!

A bit odd as well that 737-8 broke this big LTN news here rather than in the LTN thread, purely a coincidence I suppose that it followed good news of a new based aircraft and five new routes.

Oh come on please, both airports are doing rather well at the moment and let us hope they continue to do so and in a way complement each other. So for heaven's sake can we stop this yours is better than mine stupidity PLEASE.

Arkia
 

STN-TLV for sale on Arkia website from June 2017
3 x weekly (M,W,F)
*Fight is operated by Travel Service on behalf of Arkia

Arkia Israeli Airlines - Flights to Tel Aviv, Eilat Packages, Hotels in Israel

Yep,just checked it out,thanks Trance...More good news....Arkia STN-TLV in `17. Arkia have had a presence @ STN in the past & a welcome return for TLV...& STN does work too for the communities in N.London.....SS

Does my very good friend who is very high up at the head office in Peterborough good enough for you. This won't be announced for a while tho.

Still on the positive side,MAG stating 1.2M pax for STN during the total festive period...23rd busiest for outbound with 43K...busiest day overall in/outbound combined is Dec 30 for a total of 80K...3000 for Christmas Day itself...Appears to me at least based on the previous year`s roundy therefore not scientific predictions to be an increase over the whole period of 200K......SS

Is it possible that with Arkia / Travel Service entering the London - Tel Aviv market, that the route is perhaps ever so slightly over served ? On Thursday and Sundays there are already 10 flights per day in each direction, and with Arkia there will then be 5 different airlines competing against each other.

Your be very surprised how big a market London to Tel Aviv is and I'm sure another entrant will do well.

Lots of people want to make that journey, and they are people who care about making that particular journey; it's not like they'd go to Sharm instead if there was a better deal available!

Flybe
 

Summer NQY services returns 26 March and ends 28 October - on sale now

Flybe NQY
 

Flybe are operating in the evenings now though apart from Saturdays main season which remain afternoon times.

I see Cobalt are starting to put S17 flights on sale now as well. Seem to operating at slightly earlier times on the whole compared to last summer.

That concludes everything now so as it stands all airlines from S16 will be operating from STN again in S17.

FlyPOP
 

Got this today regarding Stansted flights to India
I'm not holding my breath but if it happens it happens.


Happy New Year!. Thank you for your message about POP. We plan to launch Summer 2017 and tickets will go on sale in Q1. I have added you to the POP press list so you will receive our press releases/news announcements. Thank you for your interest in POP. Kindest regards, Abby in the POP press office.

PoP have been discussed for about 18 months.
Anyone know if they've leased the 330s yet?

Whitelighter
 

From google search : lots of results

flyPOP (London Stansted) has chartered an A330-300 from an unspecified operator ahead of plans to commence regular flights to the Indian cities of Amritsar and Ahmedabad during the last quarter of this year.

Chairman Navdip Singh Judge told the Runway Girl Network in an interview that of the aircraft’s 378 seats, 78 seats are premium economy while the remainder are in an all-economy layout.

Judge added that POP has a verbal agreement with an unspecified budget carrier operating out of London Stansted wherein it will provide regional European feed to POP longhaul flights and vice versa.

flyPOP
 

Over the last 10 years, there have been a series of attempts to set up a new airline flying just between the UK and regional cities of India (often involving Amritsar) - they seem to always end in tears.

Flying between the UK and Ahmedabad / Amritsar will be very heavy on ethnic and possibly highly seasonal VFR traffic with little in the way of business. Visas are required for travel in either direction (unless you are of Indian origin but have a British passport - mainly people who were born in India but have emigrated to the UK). For the general UK public, neither city has a strong tourist appeal. OK the Golden Temple and Wagah are both interesting but that knocks off Amritsar in 1 day. There's a reason as to why the likes of BA, Jet and Virgin are so much more interested in Bangalore, Delhi and Mumbai with all the year-round corporate flying that goes on to these 3 cities. I do not consider Air India to be a commercial airline - I see it as a part of the Indian Govt - but they have a Star Alliance feed in Europe and their own network feed in India, fly non-stop between the UK and Ahmedabad and, with a refuel stop, direct to Amritsar. When you're running an aircraft which has a fixed supply of heavily economy focussed seats, wastage due to seasonality is bad news.

A verbal agreement with a LCC at Stansted, presumably Ryanair, to supply connecting passengers is worthless. Firstly verbal is not enforceable - either it's in writing or the LCC can (and possibly will) change its mind on the terms at a later date. Secondly, who handles the EU261 cases where something goes wrong with a connection ? A sizeable LCC should be seeing desperation and smelling blood in the water when it views flyPOP - and will have no hesitation in ensuring the terms of any agreement heavily favour the LCC over flyPOP. Even if the terms favour flyPOP, I don't see this as contributing much to flyPOP - the Indian population in the UK is about 1.5 million, the European country with the 2nd largest Indian population is Italy with just 150,000 - the MEB3 and TK should already have the Italy - India market covered, compared to flying 2 hours in the wrong direction before making a connection

Finally any company that plans to give 51% of its profits to charity is going to have a very hard time borrowing money from a bank to start operations - the lender would likely deem the company unable to repay the loan requested and refuse to lend in the first place. There are plenty of airlines which explicitly spell out the message to new hires 'We are a business not a charity'. A charity has no business running a long haul airline, and a start up long haul airline will need every penny of cashflow it can find just to survive in business before even thinking about giving it away. If the financial backers of this airline want to support some charities, they would be better off just giving the money direct to charity and avoiding pouring their wealth into this likely financial disaster.

I don't like to see the small guy squished out of the market in general, but frankly I look at this airline as a money-losing pit

Ryanair expansion 9x new routes from Stansted
 

Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 airline, today (12 Jan) announced a new growth deal with Manchester Airports Group (MAG) which will deliver 9 new London Stansted routes, including a daily service to Naples and a three times daily service to Copenhagen, as well as routes to Beziers, Cagliari, Clermont, Grenoble, Nice, Nimes and Strasbourg, extra flights on 13 existing routes, and over 20m customers p.a., supporting 15,000* jobs at London Stansted Airport. - See more at: Welcome to Ryanair!

Can't imagine EZY will be seeing this as particularly welcome news with Cagliari, Naples and Nice as three of their existing STN routes.

easyJet has suddenly got a lot of new competition in 2017 with Ryanair, Jet2 and Eurowings muscling in on their routes!

How are these flights being facilitated? Are they at the expense of other routes or are they basing additional aircraft? I've only looked at Copenhagen, the morning flight originates there but the two later flights are STN aircraft.

I guess EZY have no choice but to stand their ground and fight for their share. Personally, I'd love them to shift another airframe to SEN, but the way things are going at STN such a gesture would be scoffed at.

Stansted bids to become Britain's next long-haul hub as Heathrow and Gatwick are 'full' | The Independent

Only thing missing is actually long haul services.......

BA CityFlyer
 

Looking at BACFs schedule for Summer 2017 it seems the Saturday PMI flight has changed to an E170 with an earlier departure time yet the AGP, FAO, IBZ and TXL are still showing as the E190.

With rumours circulating about BACF at MAN and BHX for the summer could this mean some changes, perhaps a 2nd aircraft, for STN?

2nd AC but no extra routes - seems unlikely, unless more routes are planned

Btw, there were 8 EZY overnight the other day, fluke or has the airport picked an extra one up

Re EZY - there was a divert from SEN the other night, probably that.

And we want our A320 back, thank-you.

BACF new Routes
 

New Routes and increased frequency's STN

British Airways - LAUNCH OF NEW ROUTES FROM MANCHESTER AND STANSTED

BACF
 

So from what I can make out STN now has...

Berlin-Tegel - 1x week
Faro - 1x week
Florence - 2x week
Geneva - ?
Ibiza - 4x week
Malaga - 1x week
Nice - 1x week
Palma Mallorca - 2x week