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Mr Flaps 24th Aug 2007 10:10

AA to go into sat 2
 
Not sure how true this but have been told that AA are going to get gate 37 (C44) in sat 2 for their daily flight. Plus they are going to put a lounge in at that end of sat 2.

JulietNovemberPapa 24th Aug 2007 10:24

It's amazing just how busy and delay-prone STN can be. On Tuesday I flew AB STN-TXL. We were number 9 for push-back, and there was a line of 9 aircraft awaiting departure from 5, with aircraft at 3 different intersections. Our departure time was 0730, but we didn't roll until 0838.

I have used STN innumerable times over the years, and that was probably my worst outbound experience.

In comparison, my arrival that evening (with AB DUS-STN) was startlingly efficient and easy - and I was through security in under 30 seconds.

D-ABAA 29th Aug 2007 11:41

Ok the daily flight by AA JFK-STN has not even started yet, but AA have added a second daily flight from 07APR2008.:D

Skipness One Echo 30th Aug 2007 08:40

As was announced at the time months ago. Whooppee - do!

mattcam 30th Aug 2007 10:13

sarcasm will get you knowwhere skipness:ouch:.anyway anyone know the load factors for LAX-STN maxtjet.looks like AA have already:D anounced there second leg dew to high bookings

Skipness One Echo 30th Aug 2007 20:57

Mattcam first up the whole plan was to introduce a second flight in the spring from day one when the Stansted flight was announced, so it is not as you claim being introduced due to a clammering of peeps desperate for tickets.

And with the greatest of respect, please try and use a spell checker before you post as it does you no credit when people miss the point you are making due to your appaling English skills.

noodnik 3rd Sep 2007 11:40

SOE correct me if I'm wrong but I think correct spelling is appalling:)

jack_essex 5th Sep 2007 09:37

Have just checked the AA website, and they have now added the second daily return flight to their reservations system starting in April 08.

Departing London Stansted at 16:35 arr New York JFK 19:30

Departing New York JFK at 22.30 arr London Stansted 10:30 +1

DONTTELLTHEPAX 8th Sep 2007 08:01

American Airlines considering more routes ex STN
 
American Airlines, which is to launch flights between Stansted and New York next month, is also reported to be considering new US routes from Stansted. It announced the date of a second daily frequency on the route last week, even before its first flight has taken off.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 8th Sep 2007 19:00

Sal - London Stansted
 
New route starts 29 oct, Cabo Verde Airlines, sal-London Stansted
using B757-200

DONTTELLTHEPAX 8th Sep 2007 19:05

Another new route
 
Norwegian Air Shuttle will launch flights between Stansted and Tromso - known as the 'Gateway to the Arctic Circle' - on December 8. The Scandinavian low-cost airline will operate the route twice a week - each Tuesday and Saturday

LGWAlan 10th Sep 2007 12:12

VR flights were originally 2 flights per week SID-STN, Monday and Thursday.

Monday flight now operates from RAI - Praia

DONTTELLTHEPAX 10th Sep 2007 17:09

BlueAir
 
Blue Air to Bucharest
Blue Air is coming to London Stansted, the first low-cost airline from Romania will start direct services to Bucharest starting on the 05 October 2007 :ok:

Mr Flaps 12th Sep 2007 07:48

Why the price rise at STN
 
Can anyone shed any light in the price hike at STN. Why has BAA decided to rise the prices of using this rather rubbish airport at a time when they want to get more people through the doors and more airlines.
AB pulling all domestics.
Sky Europe going to Luton dont want to pay the landing fees.
GSM closing everything down once again due to costs out of STN.
BAA will prob say we have got AA coming. Big deal one airline after seeing three cut services or leave. Plus if FR start pulling more routes?
What is BAA thinking???

dumdumbrain 12th Sep 2007 10:20

Maybe quality over quanatity till the new terminal is open, im more than happy for Ryanair to pull routes and a/c from STN and, with any luck bring more to EMA

OLNEY 1 BRAVO 12th Sep 2007 11:11

BAA Charges
 
The reason for the hike in prices is very simple.
For more years than I care to remember, BAA was allowed to cross subsidise it's airports with the result that charges at Stansted were held artificially low as revenue from Heathrow and Gatwick was used to offset any losses. Luton Airport certainly tried to get this arrangement stopped on many occasions even resorting to complaining to Brussels.
BAA's ability to cross subsidise is no longer allowed by the CAA - in other words each of BAA's airports has to stand on its own feet. Thus in the case of Stansted were income has been less than costs, the only option has been to increase charges.
In addition, I would guess that in some cases, the special deals available to all airlines when setting up routes to new destinations are coming to an end - I think they typically expire after two or three years.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 15th Sep 2007 07:49

Ab - Stn-muc
 
Air Berlin will open a new route from London Stansted to Munich on 5 November 2007. The airline will fly twice daily from Monday to Friday and once on Saturday and Sunday

Buster the Bear 15th Sep 2007 22:10

OLNEY 1 BRAVO are you insinuating that the BAA and its monopoly, used its dominance to influence the 'market'? Surely not!

Let us see the future and Ferrovial's interest in Stansted once the public enquiries for Stansted T2 and Heathrow T5 develop!

OLNEY 1 BRAVO 16th Sep 2007 19:21

You might say that, I couldn't possibly comment!

sat1 16th Sep 2007 19:38

Let us see the future and Ferrovial's interest in Stansted once the public enquiries
 
Heathrow T5 and Stansted T2 WILL go through,there is too much money involved for them not to.

Taffy1 16th Sep 2007 22:10

I think LHR T5 did go through - as its opening march 08 :ugh:

rusty_c 16th Sep 2007 22:40

There goes buster again chip on his shoulder about stansted and the fact that it is wholly better than LTN. Why do you think that BAA kept hold of STN rather than snapping up LTN, says it all. Im sure if the boot was on the other foot, he'd be celebrating the fact that come march there will be a 2x daily flight to JFK by AA!:O

King Pong 17th Sep 2007 04:56

Following in Silverjet’s footprints when they go double daily to NY from Luton, which starts next week.:ok:

I think we have all moved on from comparing which is the better airport? Each airport has its positive and negative attributes.

It is though a fact of life that BAA poached established Luton airlines with subsidies earned from other BAA airports. But that is history and these airlines would have gone anyway, as Luton did not have the physical capacity to keep airlines like TNT and Ryanair.

eu01 19th Sep 2007 06:46

Found in the press today.

BAA, the airport operator, paid its security staff to protest at a public inquiry hearing evidence about the environmental damage that would be caused by the expansion of Stansted.
The staff were given paid time off from carrying out security checks at the Essex airport to support their employer’s application to increase the number of flights by 75,000 a year. People living under Stansted’s flight paths accused BAA of sacrificing customer service to stage a bogus protest.
More than 40 BAA staff and airport contractors attended the inquiry yesterday at a building close to the passenger terminal. The Timeshas learnt that BAA encouraged staff to join the protest by suggesting that their jobs would be at risk unless the expansion was approved.
Ryanair and other airlines that use the airport have repeatedly accused BAA of failing to provide enough security staff to cope with the extra checks introduced last year. Scanning machines are frequently left unmanned and passengers have to queue for up to an hour to pass through security.
(...)
BAA admitted that staff had been given time off to attend the inquiry.
But it claimed that there had been no impact on passengers because the protest began after the morning peak.
The company also admitted that its claim that jobs could be lost was based on the theory that airlines would move to other airports if expansion was rejected. It failed to point out to its staff that all other London airports were either full or close to capacity.
Brian Ross, of Stop Stansted Expansion, said BAA had misled staff to suit its commercial agenda. “It is bizarre when passengers are standing in security queues to send security staff to protest about the local MP speaking at a public inquiry.
“Many of our supporters are airport employees who feel that enough is enough and that excessive expansion could threaten their future job security, not to mention their quality of life.”
Quite a weird example of a PR-policy, isn't it?
Source: The Times

sunday8pm 19th Sep 2007 18:03

Hi, this is my first post on the forum. i'm somewhat of an aviation enthusiast and live in Sudbury, Suffolk. Those of you familiar with it will know its about half an hour from London Stansted and is overflown by landing aircraft (90% of the time).

My parents have a holiday house in Tenerife and have been using the scheduled GSM route from STN on monthly basis. Now they have pulled all services from Stansted I am going to be forced to use Gatwick.

What chances do you think Ryanair or Easyjet will launch a scheduled service STN-TFS anytime soon?

The same thing has also happened to me with Air Berlin pulling all their domestic routes. Working in Manchester... I used the daily service return from STN-MAN Fridays and Sundays...

Do you think any airlines will pick this route up? I used it frequently, and it was always very busy.

Ringwayman 19th Sep 2007 18:08

Eastern Airways will start 3 daily weekday services to Manchester using thier J41s. You'll have to go to their website for more details.

sunday8pm 19th Sep 2007 18:17

Thanks. At least someone will fly the route. All be it on a tiny plane and at almost twice the price!

What about STN-TFS?? Surely its only a matter of time before Ryanair pick that one up!

ExpectmorePayless 19th Sep 2007 23:23

Sunday8pm,

Perhaps the Monarch service from Luton to Tenerife South would be an alternative ? Certainly closer than Gatwick. Tue, Fri, Sat & Sun flights on flyMonarch.com. You pay less, but can expect more service than Ryanair, in that you can buy a hot or cold meal, and get free newspaper, allocated seats rather than a free for all at the gate and a hot towel service. :ok:

Oh and the crews are first class..so why not give us a try ? ;)

Musket90 20th Sep 2007 07:12

Sunday8pm,

Believe Thomas Cook, First Choice and Thomsonfly will all fly STN-TFS this winter but Fridays only, so possible flight only could be booked.

sat1 20th Sep 2007 13:51

swissport/easyjet
 
Has anyone picked up on all the rumours about swissport losing airlines and being on notice for consistently poor performance at stansted? Surely this can't ALL be rumour? Norweigan,turkish not happy,Cyprus ready to cut ties.There is a saying 'no smoke without fire' Anyone care to comment?

sat1 20th Sep 2007 13:54

PS
 
How will they cope with AA?Does the airline know what they are letting themselves in for?

pamann 20th Sep 2007 14:10

Just a question....
Passed through Stansted last weekend and noticed the lack of use of airbridges. Both Thomsonfly and First Choice were using steps, are the airbridges broken??? I understand why Ryanair don't use them but Easy do at Gatwick and no Easy planes (or any plane for that fact) had any attached at sat 1 or 2. Just a question to anyone in the know.:)

Crusher1 20th Sep 2007 16:00

Immigration
 
I passed through STN yesterday, returning from Skavsta and it took 80 mins from landing to get through the airport, mainly due to queues at immigration, I've been held up at security before but never like this trying to get home!

pamann 20th Sep 2007 16:10

I suffered the same issue with Immigration on Monday night around 2330. We were held prior to Immigration for 10 mins because the Immigration area was too busy. Once allowed through the Immigration area prior to baggage reclaim was hell! A sea of thousands of people it took forever to get through. The fact that every based FR plane lands back between 2300-0000 doesn't help (40 plane loads = 7500 people) not forgetting any other arrival.:ugh:

Mr Flaps 20th Sep 2007 17:46

Eastern to MAN
 
Eastern Airways will pick up the MAN route when AB stop the route at the end of October. The airline plans to run three flights a day during the working week.
As for the jet bridges yes they are broken. FCA and TOM would be on the bridge if they where working.

Have heard that TK are not happy with swissport but its them or back to S/Air or Avaince.

JulietNovemberPapa 20th Sep 2007 17:52

Yeah, I've experienced the awful queues at STN between 2300 and 0000 on quite a few occasions. My most recent flight into STN (from DUS) arrived at 2030, and there was only one person in front of me for immigration - what a blessing! :ok: However, my next two flights into STN (from SVQ and CIA) are scheduled to arrive at 2300 and 2345 - nooooooo! ;)

pamann 23rd Sep 2007 19:53

Anyone in the know have any updates on planned charter activity for the Summer 2008 season?
From what I can see looks like just First Choice & Thomas Cook with based aircraft?
Does anyone know of....
  • Any new routes?
  • Are XL staying or going?
  • What aircraft types the charters plan to base?
Thomsonfly are leaving April '08 or are they? With the First Choice merger and FCA coming under TOM's AOC from April '08 does this mean that the base remains open? Be sad to see them leave otherwise.

sat1 26th Sep 2007 09:12

Leaving Stn
 
Rumour reaching these ears suggests CSA are leaving stn because of increased landing fees. Anyone got any info?

D-ABAA 26th Sep 2007 09:42

Yes, CSA are pulling out of STN last flight 31OCT. Unaware of reason behind it.

sat1 26th Sep 2007 10:52

blimey!!!! air berlin dropping their domestic flights,sky europe AND csa pulling out,hmmmmmm look out everyone at circusair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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