FlyGlobespan - 2
 

Previous thread here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=195633

B787's for FlyGlobespan
 

Just announced!!!

flyglobespan has just signed a deal for 2 B787's for delivery 2010!!!

What fantastic news for such a fantastic airline!

This airline is going places!!

regards,

CT

FlyGlobespan B787's
 

Source is bonafide - Memo to all flight deck crew from the Chief Pilot & Flt Op's Director sent out today (18th July 2006).

Aircraft to come from ILFC in the Spring of 2010.!!

This is just the best news ever for Scotland, North of England and Stansted.!!! :ok: :ok:

In addition to the 2 B757's and 2 B767's already announced and yet to be delivered, any substance to the story that 3 further a/c of each type are currently being sourced for 2007?

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
http://www.jethros.i12.com

hold the party
 

Not wanting to rain on King Toms parade...but fuel prces are rising and 2010 is a long way off........the current economic climate is not exactly condusive to rapid expansion.....its all well and good for the market to be blowing the globespan horn of plenty...but as I said before Mr D isnt doing this for nothing!!!

GATWICKNOSE
Is there a reason why you are always slagging off GSM? In almost every thread on GSM you have something negative to say.

Globespan flights to Canada.
 

"Specialist operator Canadian Affair has been taken over by Air Transat for £20.4 million"

Could it be that Globespan's primary market just got a bit less attractive as their exclusive supplier buys their major competitor ?

It won't affect fly Globespan that muach as it has been rumoured that Globespan are ditching Air Transat for the Canadian programme in 2007. With Air Transat buying Canadian Affair the real losers will be Thomas Cook - UK and My Travel Airways who presently fly the UK - Canada charters on behalf of Canadian Affair.

Not a rumour - Air Transats contract with GSM will cease from 31 October 2006, with GSm taking over their own YYZ flights this Winter with their own B767s, until the B757s arrive next year. The flights will soon go on sale for GLA and STN shortly. Also, they are partnering with Flyzoom, with Zoom operating some of the flights and GSM operating the rest over Winter 06.

Also, with regards to the B787s, Mr D knows what he is doing Gatwicknose. Are you a disgruntled ex-employee? Cos I'm sure you have an issue with GSM doing well. These B787s were on the cards since 2005, where Mr D announced his intention to aquire these aircraft.

that certainly sounds like exciting stuff...

all you have to hope now is that GSM will still be around by 2010, because with some of their route choices and the lack of clear business model, it certainly doesnt look like it.

just wondering how many of their last winter 05/06 routes have been dropped for this winter 06/07?? how much reassurance does this give you for their new winter routes?

sanjo

Well, Sanjo, FYI Winter 05 schedule for GSM:

GLA:
ALC daily, AGP daily, LPA 2 weekly, ACE 2 weekly, STN 2 daily, GVA weekly, BCN daily, TFS daily, PRG daily.

EDI:
ALC 2 weekly, AGP 2 weekly, STN 2 daily, GVA daily, PRG 3 weekly, BCn 3 weekly.

STN:
GVA daily, TFS daily.


Winter 06 is as follows:

GLA:
ALC/AGP/TFS/BCN daily, PRG 5 weekly, LPA weekly, ACE 2 weekly, FUE weekly, FAO 2 weekly, PMI 2 weekly, SFB 3 weekly.

EDI:
ALC/AGP/GVA/CMF daily, TFS 2 weekly, PRG 3 weekly, ACE weekly, FAO 2 weekly, PMI 2 weekly, BCN 4 weekly, MJV 2 weekly.

STN:
TFS/CMF daily.

LPL:
TFS/PRG daily.

MAN:
CPT 3 weekly, YYZ 3 weekly.

So, it would appear that their Winter 06 schedule is huge. This is not including the TFS based A/C that will operate ABZ and MME.

Thanks for your kind reply webby

From what you say it looks like EDI is going to get an extra 38 flights (19 rotations) a week and GLA is going to lose 20 flights (10 rotations) a week, year on year. i count 4 routes dropped and quite a few new ones.

what is also very interesting is that 70% of the capacity increase is not for new routes but for existing ones that will be cannibalising your own revenue. for example:

increasing AGP from 2 weekly to daily...
increasing ALC from 2 weekly to daily and launching MJV on top etc etc

how much was GSM's profit last winter to be able to absorb such growth this winter?

The profit for Financial Year 2005 was around £5.5million, I think. They have never been in the red since the airline began operations. Some of the flights operate W pattern flights, ie. GLA-ALC-EDI-ALC-GLA, AGP, PMI, FAO, and PRG this winter operate W Pattern flights. Its a very good way of maximising the aircraft utilisation. I'm all in favour of GSM expansing, both from Scotland and from England and Europe. Lets face it, if they want to expand, they must look at other bases away from Scotland, such as STN/MAN/LPL/MME/TFS. They are intending to become Scotlands National Flag Carrier, so I'm sure that they will not forget GLA/EDI/ABZ. YYZ flights about to be launched from GLA for Winter 06 shortly.

There is room for a route to be flown 3*per week during the winter from LPL.

Prague 4*per week
Tenerife daily

PRG 4 weekly from end of Dec 06, my bet is that CMF will take care of the spare capacity from LPL.

Does anyone know the weekly schedule for the TFS based equipment?

Not sure if Thomas Cook will be the a looser on this, as Canadian Affair has made alot of its profits from the 35" seat pitch in TCX east canada flights so they may keep that contrat, west coast canada may be the looser for TCX and MYT especially. Also Travelpack have contract for TS in UK now, along side the TCX & MYT Flights. And Thomas Cook holidays sell the Canadian flights too.

GLA has an overall increase this with potentially more to come.
Cannabalising own revenue ? ...eh no. The idea is that the best performing routes can potentially create more profits. If they dont increase to meet demand someone else will ie EZY.

Webby and Eff OH

I am not an ex employee of GSM nor am I disgruntled!! Simply adding a note of caution here...this thread is the lucky recipient of quite a bit of trumpet blowing...notably from WEBBY.....are you employee of the month...you speak in the third party but all of your posts take the form of small and reasonably detailed soundbites advertising the great current and future service that GSM is offering. I am more than delighted that GSM are doing well.....but as I said King Tom is in charge an will run roughshod over any expansion at a whim...there is absolutlely no-one in the organisation that would contradict him...senior staff either say yes tom or they are related!!! not a good situation... and before you say...yes I have met him more than once...this is why I have reservations!!!

NCL - YYZ summer 20007

does anybody know if it is going to be with Zoom or GSM then?

im hoping for Zoom!!

NCL - YYZ Summer 2007
 

Air Transat ? sold through Canadian Affair, perhaps........

There is a rumour circulating that there will be a GLA - Amritsar charter flight this winter for an indian travel company. Not sure about this but it's being mentioned.

GSM released Winter 06 & Summer 07 schedule for BFS-SFB weekly Tues departure, via GLA.

Well yeah but its GLA - BFS - SFB.

Nice one webby!! I know advertising is free here but at least get your routing correct.....King T would certainly not want to waste precious fuel on such a venture!!!

So, so far we've had BFS, MME, LPL, STN, MAN and extra GLA flights (correct me if theres more)
All within the space of a few weeks/months! They must be doing something right.
Anyone know where the new aircraft are coming from, and exactly how many they are getting?
I'm sure its been said before.... but CWL should be next! :ok:

stansted i hope is next
 

i heard that stansted is getting newyork flight
poss 2 a day later on

thats the second STN-NYC startup planned..I wonder who will get airbourne first... King T did rather leave STN in the lurch with the north south flights this year...I wonder if they will return to feed?

Hope not barking up wrong tree, but does anyone know what / who will be doing the EXT/BHX/YYZ/EXT charter in 07? Currently Air Transat with A310.

Many thanks,

:)

There was a rumour earlier in this thread about an Amritsar charter flight for an Indian travel company. Has anyone heard anything more about it, and if it will be bookable from the UK? Also is it just a one off or a regular thing?

XSB

come on GSM and start a LPL - ATH service ASAP! :D :ok:

The Amritsar flight is for a UK travel company who specialise in India....think it's Kohli Travel. Although there has been no official announcement to crew.

I'm hoping for a STN to US route. Stansted will have 4 daily American routes by the end of the summer but they are all business class. We need some economy prices across the Atlantic too.

What is the logic in operating GLA - BFS - SFB, instead of just doing SFB / BFS as a w and dropping one weekly GLA rotation?

Will help fill up the tues flight out of GLA over the winter, and also if operated in a W then would have the added cost of transporting crew etc

Does anyone know the release date for summer '07 flights to ALC & MAH

cheers

Jet Stream, so I presume they are not using their own staff for check-in? Where would security staff for this flight come from - an addition of a few hours to the shift pattern for BFS to sort out?

I'm sure they've done the maths, but would have just thought it cheaper to position a small number of crew, rather than to operate a (50% full?) 767 over such a short sector?

To be honest i wouldn't know about the cost of operating the flight, but MYT do it on one of their GLA - SFB flights so guess GSM are just testing the water. Maybe there are good cargo contract to be had from BFS??

Just came back from SFB this morning and we had alot of N. Irish pax onboard and they were delighted to hear about our new BFS - SFB service.

We'll see, cos one thing is for sure if it doesn't make money then it will be dropped quickly.

If you look at the Canadian traffic, Zoom, Transat and Air Canada(although they have left Scotland now) they all do/did w patterns.

New route due to be announced: GLA-BOS from May 07 with GSM, daily service.