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johnrizzo2000 31st Aug 2006 18:17

GSM should get in before EI do, and launch DUB to MCO/SFB! The number of Irish going to Orlando these days is huge, and nearly all have to go via PHL/EWR/ATL/ORD etc. We only get a fortnightly MON A330 to SFB!

dwlpl 31st Aug 2006 18:48


Originally Posted by av8767 (Post 2809868)
Hi dwlpl, the Capetown starts 04 NOV twice weekly until 20th DEC when it starts 3 x weekly as planned.

It was originally three per week as confirmed here from various sites (did not think my memory was playing tricks).

www.ch-aviation.ch/airlinepage.php?code1=FGL

27.02.2006 - Fly Globespan (B4/Edinburgh) will launch three times weekly B767-300ER service from Manchester to Cape Town on November 6.


advertising

Manchester
Flyglobespan
1.3..6.


The three per week is still on the MAN website in the timetables section also.

goldeneye 31st Aug 2006 20:58


Originally Posted by johnrizzo2000 (Post 2816255)
GSM should get in before EI do, and launch DUB to MCO/SFB! The number of Irish going to Orlando these days is huge, and nearly all have to go via PHL/EWR/ATL/ORD etc. We only get a fortnightly MON A330 to SFB!

EI had a direct flight to MCO but dropped it last year i think. I believe they wanted to use the aircraft for alt route (possibly DXB) and it was not as popular as they hoped.

afterdark 1st Sep 2006 01:30

I have too aggree with a couple of others Globespan are not good at letting Customers know of flight cancellations or dropped routes
letting Pax know 4 ( GLA - AMS ) days before the flight the route was dropped was appauling
besides that, Lots of travellers in Scotland even Glasgow still dont know they exist, who they are or what they do.

gatwicknose 1st Sep 2006 07:59

Have to agree with webby, flotation is almost ineviatable...have to admit that the operation seems to have grown at a sustainable albeit very fast rate...Not sure how Mr D would deal with not being in command though,,he mayb have to go and polish his boat down in the south of france...last time I talked to him he said he had forgotten what it looked like!!!

webby1919 1st Sep 2006 08:03

Thats probably because he's never done working! Imagine having all that wealth and not being able to enjoy it. He is doing spectacular things for the Scottish airline market, the cancelled flight to PRG aside, GSM do operate excellent routes at quite cheap prices, with frequent departures. They are a fast-growing company, who need some time to grow - I'm sure they learn from their mistakes.

daz211 1st Sep 2006 08:07

lesson No1 ADVERTISING :ugh:

sparkymarky 1st Sep 2006 08:30

One place that Globespan do a lot of advertising is the Metro free sheet.

Not very visible if you don't get the bus/train to work, but highly effective since the demographics of the reader base are very good for a travel company.

daz211 1st Sep 2006 09:28

I have to say that I have never seen or heard
any advertising for GSM in the south (STN)
I only live 20min from stansted and only know
about the airlines routes from here and baa
website

CHIVILCOY 1st Sep 2006 10:02

Regarding Globespan advertising.

Maybe Mr Dalrymple needs to follow the example of another loco boss.
What is that I hear you ask?

Definition of a loco boss looking for free advertising would be actions carried out by one person which will bring free publicity to your company for example,self backslapping,over the top complaining of Government policies,slagging off other airlines when you see them as a threat, ignoring your own passengers when they complain about your services and generally acting like a spoilt two year old whenever a camera is pointed at you.

daz211 1st Sep 2006 10:17

chivilcoy
 
why the attack on other low cost airlines

if you mean ryanair and easyjet they are a household name
now and all I was trying to point out was a lack of something
which is so very importent to GSM if it canx flights due to
lack of bums on seats (advertising may be why)
and from what I have read on here yes your right the negative
advertising has started due to canx routes

I have nothing against GSM and wish them all the luck in
the world and look forward to more routes all im saying
is if you dont advertise the routes well enough in your
catchment area your not going to get the bums on seats
but the bums are out there and willing to buy seats if
they were to be told about the routes

CHIVILCOY 1st Sep 2006 10:49

Edited to remove the full quote of the previous post. Bad enough we had to live with a total lack of capitalization and punctuation once.

It was some tongue in cheek advice for Mr Dalrymple to get his airline more widely known but I suspect he has a bit more class to go down that road.:=

webby1919 1st Sep 2006 12:14

New A/C for S07:

B737 -800 - 1
B737 -700 - 3
B767 -300 - 2
B757 -200 - 4

Lotso of expansion to come by the sounds of it.

Ametyst 1st Sep 2006 12:19

Oh good. Lots more routes to announce and cancel

webby1919 1st Sep 2006 12:21

lol. I'm sure they won't probably most of the expansion will be in GLA and EDI for S07 so I;m sure you'll have nothing to worry about.:rolleyes:

gatwicknose 1st Sep 2006 12:50

webby cured me....I am now through whining about GSM!!! Hope it all goes well....Mr D far too sensible and canny to indulge in ay kind of bransonesque tomfoolery...good on him...the over virgining of virgin has turned me off using them alltogether

exloadie 2nd Sep 2006 11:22

the reason they hav edropped the LPL-PRG route is due to slots in PRG.If teh flight was delayed @LPL (closed during night for runway repairs) then getting into PRG was going to be a problem,well thats the line they are giving out

webby1919 8th Sep 2006 15:19

Yet More Canadian Expansion!!
 
Seems that GSM will operate flights from Toronto Hamilton to many many major airports in the UK for S07.

Flights will be operated by the B757-200 series, with 189 capacity. 12 UK destinations in total, Belfast, Birmingham, Doncaster, Dublin, Edinburgh, Exeter, Glasgow, Liverpool, London Stansted, Manchester, Newcastle and Shannon.

Belfast - weekly Thurs departure
Birmingham - weekly Wed departure
Doncaster - weekly Mon departure
Dublin - to be released on Fri 15 Sept
Edinburgh - weekly Fri departure
Exeter - weekly Tues departure
Glasgow - DAILY departures throughtout Summer 07.
Liverpool - weekly Sun departure
London Stansted - DAILY departues throughout Summer 07
Manchester - DAILY departures throughout Summer 07.
Newcastle - weekly Saturday departure
Shannon - to be released on Fri 15 Sept

daz211 8th Sep 2006 16:13

Still No Advertising
 
I just cant understand if YYZ in going to be every day ex STN
why is there no advertising i guess they will drop the
route after a while due to lack of intrest:ugh:

diesel36 8th Sep 2006 17:24

i presume globespan the tour operator will do the advertising as the flights will obviously be for them

but where are these 757-200 coming from

nobody seems to have any idea

where do you get 4 decent 757,s

seem to be thin on the ground

does anybody from gsm know where they are coming from..

nobody seems to know. mr tom must be keeping it a secret..:)

SwissportSFB 8th Sep 2006 17:41

I have enjoyed working with this airline. This a well-rounded airline, and I wish it would rub off onto some of the other airlines that fly into SFB. ;)

jimbo canuck 8th Sep 2006 17:56

Hamilton Flights
 
The Hamilton Airport website has a news release today about the GSM flights. They are saying there will be three flights daily implying some will be double drops. Flights start in May 07 with booking available from October this year.

BALIX 8th Sep 2006 18:18

Hmmm, interesting. How will this affect Globespan's relationship with Transat? Also, it looks as they will be going head to head with Canadian Affair/TCX who also use 189 seat 757s to Toronto YYZ from Glasgow, Gatwick, Birmingham and Manchester. I was on the GLA-YYZ flight this summer and it was excellent - will GSM manage to get 35 inch seat pitch on their 757s?

transwede 8th Sep 2006 18:22

NCL is being rumoured as a GSM destination from Hamilton, also Canadian Affair will use TCX for 757 service from NCL. Canadian Affair is part of the Air Transat group. Globespan (holiday part) have cancelled their long standing contract with Air Transat in favour of using GSM and Zoom.

shlittlenellie 8th Sep 2006 18:36

Where would you get 4 decent 757s from?

Thomsonfly.

diesel36 8th Sep 2006 18:48

and are thomsonfly getting rid of 4..

Jet_stream 8th Sep 2006 19:35

Daily flights

GLA - YHM
MAN - YHM
STN - YHM

Weekly

BFS, BHX, DSA, EDI, EXT, LPL, NCL - YHM
MAN - YYZ (767)

Not yet bookable from UK as yet with the exception on the MAN - YYZ.

With DUB and SNN - YHM due on sale 15 Sep

diesel36 8th Sep 2006 19:57

well they must have some knowledge of where there getting there 757 from putting that lot on sale

good luck to them hope they get reliable ones to do that lot...

crackling jet 8th Sep 2006 21:51


Originally Posted by webby1919 (Post 2833415)
Seems that GSM will operate flights from Toronto Hamilton to many many major airports in the UK for S07.

Flights will be operated by the B757-200 series, with 189 capacity. 12 UK destinations in total, Belfast, Birmingham, Doncaster, Dublin, Edinburgh, Exeter, Glasgow, Liverpool, London Stansted, Manchester, Newcastle and Shannon.

Belfast - weekly Thurs departure
Birmingham - weekly Wed departure
Doncaster - weekly Mon departure
Dublin - to be released on Fri 15 Sept
Edinburgh - weekly Fri departure
Exeter - weekly Tues departure
Glasgow - DAILY departures throughtout Summer 07.
Liverpool - weekly Sun departure
London Stansted - DAILY departues throughout Summer 07
Manchester - DAILY departures throughout Summer 07.
Newcastle - weekly Saturday departure
Shannon - to be released on Fri 15 Sept


with all these routes being anounced, why do all airlines avoid bristol like the plague, i know in the past all airlines that have operated to canada from Bristol have had the kiss of death on them, ie Oddessy,Canada 3000, tradewinds, all went out of bussiness, though not because of operating into brs !!, but the loads always seemed to be pretty good, would be nice to see a canadian route on the board again as if Cwl and Ext can do it whats the problem with Bristol ?

crackling jet 9th Sep 2006 01:47

just realised my mistake before you all jump on it, Tradewinds did not operate Toronto route, it was Worldways. so back on subject,any plans for any flyglobespan operation in the future at bristol,as it seems like they are going everywhere else in the u.k.

goldeneye 9th Sep 2006 10:20

Im guessing they have got a good deal from Hamilton Airport, but wii pax really want to fly there if going to Toronto it self when you have a shed load of flights in to YYZ. ie AC, BA, TS, TCX, MYT, OOM from LHR, LGW, STN, EXT, BHX, MAN, GLA, EDI, NCL, CWL, BFS.
Also Hamilton is around 56 miles to central Toronto (further from the airport.) and a bit less to Niagara Falls.

diesel36 9th Sep 2006 10:21

best thing for them is globespan holidays

obviously there going to be pushing it very hard..

diesel36 9th Sep 2006 11:28

where are the 4 757 coming from for globespan ????????

this is the question nobody knows..

BALIX 9th Sep 2006 17:47


Originally Posted by transwede (Post 2833651)
Canadian Affair is part of the Air Transat group.

Don't think it is. According to the company website it is the trading name of a privately owned company called The Airline Seat Company Ltd.

Would be very surprised if it had anything to do with Transat as it charters aircraft from TCX and MYT (although I think it utilises the odd Transat service in the winter).

Back to GSM, they will have to go some to match the TCX 757 flights for comfort. Good luck to them though...

skyman771 9th Sep 2006 18:13

BALIX

Can you define 'comfort' in terms of seat pitch & width please.

airhumberside 9th Sep 2006 18:30

Air Transat's Holding Company has bought either Canadian Affair or The Airline Seat Company. This is a recent move, hence this summer. Air Transat is doing none of Canadian Affairs flights. This will change next summer though (not sure about this winter's flights)

goldeneye 9th Sep 2006 20:03

Yes Canadian Affair were purchased by Transat AT in early august for about 20 Million Euros. see here

Dont think this will have any impact on TCX/MYT for next summer as C.Affair are still selling them, in addition to TS flights. Also during the winter season C.Affair sell Monarch on YYC flights from LGW & MAN. But after that we will see.

daz211 10th Sep 2006 14:03

Turnaround Time !
 
Whyte said Hamilton is the right choice for a low-cost carrier. "We chose Hamilton because ... as a low-cost carrier we try to operate into the regional airports," he said. "Our customer base in the U.S. is sophisticated in that they know it's a lot less hassle to fly out of regional airports.
"We have to turn our airplanes quickly, we can't afford to wait three or four hours to get back on line, we want to do it in 20 minutes if we can," he said. "This is also a large base, we have two-and-a-half million people just in this area. That's a good base for us and if we have no competition, which we don't at this point, we're probably going to be the flavour of the month."

james170969 10th Sep 2006 16:42

daz211

If this is the case then why did they move from Prestwick to Glasgow Airport?

BALIX 10th Sep 2006 20:44


Originally Posted by skyman771 (Post 2835114)
Can you define 'comfort' in terms of seat pitch & width please.

35 inch seat pitch. Don't know about the width but seating was a standard 3x3 757. I know we are not talking Eos or Maxjet here but it is definitely the most comfortable transatlantic crossing I've had in economy class. No PTVs on the 757 but I will happly give up PTVs for an extra few inches of seat pitch. It cost less than the other alternatives as well.

Oh, and I bow to the superior knowledge of airhumberside, goldeneye and transwede regarding Transat's takeover of Canadian Affair. I must have missed the takeover news as I was in Canada at the time ;)


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