Globespan to boston
 

Flyglobespan unveils Glasgow-Boston link - taken from Travel Trade Gazette.


Friday, August 11, 2006


Scottish no-frills airline Flyglobespan is to launch a daily service from Glasgow to Boston, and is looking for code-share partners to spread its reach further into the US.
Flyglobespan will start the service on May 28 next year, offering business, premium economy and no-frills seats.
Flights will depart Glasgow at 11.00, arriving in Boston at lunchtime. The return flight will leave Boston at about 18.00, arriving in Glasgow at 07.00. The carrier will use a Boeing 737-800.
The service will carry about 255 people, with 40-50 seats in premium economy.
Passengers choosing not to order a meal can opt to go “no-frills”. Seat pitches will range from 30 inches to 50 inches for sleeper seats.
The move comes at a time when some North American airlines have been cutting transatlantic links to Scotland.
Tom Dalrymple, chairman, managing director and owner of Flyglobespan parent Globespan Group, is billing the Boston route as the first significant attempt to run a no-frills transatlantic service since Sir Freddie Laker’s Skytrain in the 1970s.
He added that the airline was open to code-share deals with other airlines ahead of any resolution to US-UK talks on flying restrictions. Dalrymple said he expected those discussions to conclude by the end of next year.
Talking about the Boston route, he said: “That aircraft could go onwards, and [any] new open skies arrangements will allow us to fly further.
“Interesting code-shares are something we will be seeking to get our passengers onwards into the depths of the US, and also to widen the distribution of product within the US coming into Scotland.”

cosy.........:uhoh:

Flyglobespan unveils Glasgow-Boston link - taken from Travel Trade Gazette.


Friday, August 11, 2006


Scottish no-frills airline Flyglobespan is to launch a daily service from Glasgow to Boston, and is looking for code-share partners to spread its reach further into the US.
Flyglobespan will start the service on May 28 next year, offering business, premium economy and no-frills seats.
Flights will depart Glasgow at 11.00, arriving in Boston at lunchtime. The return flight will leave Boston at about 18.00, arriving in Glasgow at 07.00. The carrier will use a Boeing 737-800.
The service will carry about 255 people, with 40-50 seats in premium economy.
Passengers choosing not to order a meal can opt to go “no-frills”. Seat pitches will range from 30 inches to 50 inches for sleeper seats.
The move comes at a time when some North American airlines have been cutting transatlantic links to Scotland.
Tom Dalrymple, chairman, managing director and owner of Flyglobespan parent Globespan Group, is billing the Boston route as the first significant attempt to run a no-frills transatlantic service since Sir Freddie Laker’s Skytrain in the 1970s.
He added that the airline was open to code-share deals with other airlines ahead of any resolution to US-UK talks on flying restrictions. Dalrymple said he expected those discussions to conclude by the end of next year.
Talking about the Boston route, he said: “That aircraft could go onwards, and [any] new open skies arrangements will allow us to fly further.
“Interesting code-shares are something we will be seeking to get our passengers onwards into the depths of the US, and also to widen the distribution of product within the US coming into Scotland.”

That must be an error. Our B767-300 only has 244 config! It does sound very much like the config of our B767. I can't see 50" sleeper seats on a B737 as well as the other main cabin. I knew the B737NG was being used on transatlantic flights, but wasn't sure where to.

Thats going to be one FULL B737-800:E

Thats what i thought,

heard the 737-800 might be doing Lpl/Ewr as well.

They have also confirmed there order for 2 787 from ilfc.

A Very Friendly Carrier
 

To add to eastern wiseguy's post, I would say 'very cosy' especially with the sleeper seat pitch considered.
What have they done to -800? When I worked them it was 189 seats in bucket and spade config.
Am I allowed to choose with whom I share my seat with??? Or is there an 'extra' low cost no-frills i.e. 'Standing?'

If they use the 737NG on the trans-atlantic I suspect it will be in 2 class config.

Think its a typo - sure it is meant to read B767-300, as this is the config of GSMs B767, 24 BUS/60PremECO/160 ECO.

It's probably the number of passengers that is the typo rather than the equipment. Tom Dalrymple did speak before about the 737-800 opening up the possibility of longer haul routes, and he specifically mentioned Glasgow-Boston. A 763 would probably be overkill on this route.

Great news, though!

Going on the seat capacity announced, one would expect a 763. I would have thought a 752 would have been the perfect aircraft for the route. GLA-BOS can't be much further than the likes of GLA-HRG and GLA-SSH?

Regards

Mike

so glad there expanding, hope they do the same at manchester

seem like a good company

which im glad of as ive just accepted a job with them.

globespan
 

I would have thought that stansted would get longhaul
it has been said that they were going for newyork and orlando
from stansted but as yet nothing
I see that summer 2007 only shows stansted - chambery
can anyone give any info on summer 2007 other than
chambery ???

I would think your right about the 757, TCX use them on eastern canada flights ie YYZ & YOW, so pretty sure BOS is possible too.

Also if it is a 737-800, The Boeing website state the aircraft has a max range of 3060NM, where GLA-BOS is around 3030NM so its cutting it a bit close.

Only Summer routes on sale at present are GLA - SFB, BFS - SFB, LPL - EWR. With the exception opf April dates for winter flights which come under summer 2007 timetable.

I would imagine MAN and STN and GLA will see further longhaul expansion when the 757's arrive. Wouldn't be surprised to see the GLA - BOS route extend onto LAS if/when it's allowed.

Unlikely it they would continue, particularly as a low fare airline. I'm pretty sure passengers arriving in the US have to clear immigration and customs at the first airport they land at. This could take several hours and the plane would be sat there earning nothing. A codeshare with a us loco would be a more sensible option

Initial
What relevance does the length of time for pax to clear immigration and customs when arriving in the US' have upon aircraft turnaround times?
Globespan sell their 767's in 3-class config and their 757's in 2-class config. Are there any US Lo-Cost operators that do the same thus enabling a 'code-share' agreement?
Globespan have been spending vast ammounts of money over the years buying blocks of seats on virtually ALL Scotland-US & Canada routes flown by the major scheduled carriers, if Globespan have spotted a profitable route they'll move onto it. All they've done is look at where there customers are flying to and brought their costs 'in house'.
:ok:

sorry if I am changing the subject a bit - Flyglobespan said they would consider re-offering Bournemouth from EDI and perhaps ABZ - does anyone know any details? Maybe easyJet will do it instead if its not soon.

Can't see a market for BOH-ABZ myself.

As much chance of me winning the lotte - HEY I'M RICH!! ;)

Seriously would imagine GSM would focus on "bucket 'n' spade" for ABZ to begin with.

And we need a STN route pleeeeeze!

When was BOH-EDI last served - was that with Euroscot or whatever they called themselves? 1-11? Or was it more recent?

Pontious
I think what he is driving at, is that a turn around time of between 2 and 3 hours, to allow pax to clear immigration and customs and check back in again, is a long time on the ground.
It might also mean crews will be out of hours or very tight for a two sector day, plus the aircraft is not earning money during this time.
This all adds cost to the operation and puts the break even load factor higher than a point to point operation.:ok:

any clue
 

come on someone out there must have some
news re stansted go on just a clue :rolleyes:

May be a B757.

Looks like the 2 B757s are now full-capacity:

1 B757 to LPL doing daily EWR
1 B757 to GLA doing daily BOS

Also looks like Las Vegas will be released next. Not available to book on website, but it is in timetables section.

Is there a possibility that the Glasgow - Boston will be on the 737-800?.
Just made me thinks as the 767 is 3 class cabin, 757 will be 2 class cabin, but Boston is not being sold as "business" class but just either economy - no frills or economy - Premiuim service which is different to LPL - EWR?

The premium economy flights only have a capacity of 8 at the most, so it is likely that the B737-800 will be operating this flight, reconfigured. That means that there is still 1 more B757 to account for S07.

For reference:

757 proposed route: Liverpool - New York Newark
757 delivery: summer07
767 current route: Glasgow - Orlando Sanford
767 proposed route: Manchester - Toronto/Cape Town
767 delivery: summer07

Have heard that management have had a visit to NCL last month looking around. Maybe some news soon?

If you try to book GLA-SANFORD the taxes and fees for economy are £40 one way but for Premium Economy they are £60. Any idea why? Probably just a bit of stealth profit as the listed prices are £72 and £92 respectively.

smith

Airport taxes are explained here:

http://www.visitbritain.com/VB3-en/t...ort_taxes.aspx

The relevant quote being:

# the rate for economy flights to all other destinations is £20
# the rate for club and first class fares for all other destinations is £40

LPL - EWR now available to book as 3 class service rather than the previous 2 class service. No mention of any seat pitches though!

Expect the Boston flights to be operated by B737NG equipment.

despegue

Hi despegue, does that mean it will be 737-800 every day, or will busier days get 757 or 767?

That seems to leave quite a bit of spare capacity for the new 767 and 757 to go to other further destinations?

They do say it in there.

Economy No Frills - 30" pitch
Economy Premium Service Upgrade - 34" pitch
Business - 50" pitch

Hi dwlpl, I think you are reffering to the 767-300 aircraft operating from GLA and MAN, if you try and book LPL-EWR the same options for class and seat pitch are not given.

I got the info off the LPL/EWR route.

Go into the booking system on their website and select the three classes in turn and wait until it lists what you get for each fare.

Economy - No Frills
30" seat pitch

Economy - premium service upgrade
Priority check-in
Priority boarding
30kg luggage allowance
34" seat pitch

Business Class Service
Use of airport executive lounge prior to departure
Priority check-in
Priority boarding
40kg luggage allowance
Champagne prior to departure
Seats with 50" seat pitch

Does this mean that all their aircraft will be in different configs?
eg - 767 - 3 class (Sanford, Toronto, Capetown)
737-800/757? 3 class (Newark)
737-800/757? 2 class (Boston)
Rest of 737 fleet all Y class
Seems a bit odd for fleet utilisation/Maintenance checks etc?
Any ideas

Artical from the Scotsman Re: GLA - BOS route.

http://business.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1186982006

mentions that the route will be operated by a mix of a/c 767/757/737.

The vacancies for Liverpool base lists the base as a dual base together with MAN.

The aircraft to be flown from the dual base is listed as 767/737.

If you can fly the 767, then you can fly the 757, right?
Thats how it works at BA.